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Bench Press - yet another question! 31 October 2009 22:35 (permalink)
It`s not a question about form or technique, I`m just wondering how other people do their sets?

I have always performed flat bench press as 3x8, increasing the weight on the bar by 5kgs for each set.
Only when I can do 3 full sets in succession do I increase the start weight for the first set.

For example, when I started training again 10 weeks ago I had lost a considerable amount of strength compared to when I stopped training last year. 
Therefore my first bench press consisted of 3 increasing weight sets,  60kgs, 65kgs & 70kgs.

Training this afternoon I managed the following :- 1st set 100kgs x8, 2nd set 105kgs x8, 3rd set 110kgs x3, 
Only when I can do 3 full sets of 8 reps will I increase the 1st set to 105kgs.

Admittedly I know that I can not do this indefinately, and there will come a time when I simply cannot press anymore, but before that time comes I will most probably have to drop the weight increase per set to 2.5kgs or less. 

So, back to the question, how do you bench press? 
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    Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 01 November 2009 17:22 (permalink)
    On my most recent chest day, my flat bench was:

    6 x 50kg warm up
    6 x 90kg warm up
    6 x 125kg
    6 x 125kg
    5 x 125kg
    4 x 125kg

    Once I can do 4 working sets of 6 reps at that weight I'll up it by 2kg or so.

    I've never been a great fan of upping the weight over sets and have always preferred to keep it constant.
     
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      Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 02 November 2009 13:22 (permalink)
      I do a couple of warm up sets then move on to 3 or 4 working sets where I will use weights that let me get somewhere in the region of 6-10 reps.  If I get nearer to 10 reps I will up the weight the next set.


       
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        Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 02 November 2009 13:36 (permalink)
        i do two warm up sets then at present:-

        all sets aiming for 12reps, if i cant quite get that on first set i'll decrease weight slightly on 2nd set, hopefully achieve it on 3rd.

        I hope to be able to getthe full 12 reps next time
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          Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 02 November 2009 19:50 (permalink)
          I do pyramid sets e.g.

          high reps, light weight
          10 x 50%
          8  x 65%
          5  x 75%
          3  x 85%
          1  x 95%
          1  x 100%
          ton of weight, low reps (need to be spotted)

          I also like the 5x5 e.g. start at

          90kg 5x5

          next workout add 2.5 kg

          92.5 kg and so on.

          I prefer pyramid sets to the 6 weeks at 8-10 rep range then 6 weeks at 4-6 rep range as I can activate more muscle fibres.
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            Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 02 November 2009 20:22 (permalink)
            A couple of light sets then 5x5.
             
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              Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 03 November 2009 15:43 (permalink)
              2 sets 60kg x 8
              100kg x 6
              130kg x 5
              150kg x 5
              170kg x 2
              170kg x 2
               
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                Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 11:12 (permalink)
                *warm up*

                example weights

                160kg - 6 reps
                155kg - 6 reps
                150kg - 6 reps

                now if i started the other way round i know i wouldnt hit 160kg as i would have spend a good amount of energy on the lighter sets i could already handle.

                more weight = more stimuli = more growth

                why train with weight you can easily handle for the majority of the sets is beyond me
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                  Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 11:33 (permalink)
                  I took advice from IB on this, it works.

                  I do the first set at the heaviest I can do, try to hit 8, normally fail for first couple of weeks.

                  Second set -2.5KG and try to hit 8.

                  Third set again -2.5KG and try to hit 8.

                  I only up weight once my first working set hits 8, then next week I up it. Then I'm working every set to my max potential.

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                    Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 11:52 (permalink)
                    usually constant weight for 3 sets, aim for 3x10, although at present I'm on about 8, then 6, and then dropping back a couple of kgs for the last set

                    nothings set in stone, lift hard with good form and the sets/reps will work themselves out.
                     
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                      Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 12:31 (permalink)
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                      *warm up*

                      example weights

                      160kg - 6 reps
                      155kg - 6 reps
                      150kg - 6 reps

                      now if i started the other way round i know i wouldnt hit 160kg as i would have spend a good amount of energy on the lighter sets i could already handle.

                      more weight = more stimuli = more growth

                      why train with weight you can easily handle for the majority of the sets is beyond me


                      I should probably do it that way
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                        Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 13:33 (permalink)
                        I do what you do for DB press.
                        I'll do something like...

                        8 x 60kg
                        8 x 60kg then if that goes well
                        8 x 64kg

                        then the following week i'd do

                        8 x 60
                        8 x 64
                        8 x 64 and then slowly go up that way.

                        I've got friends who go heavy first then decrease the weight.

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                          Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 14:41 (permalink)
                          Aks


                          I do what you do for DB press.
                          I'll do something like...

                          8 x 60kg
                          8 x 60kg then if that goes well
                          8 x 64kg

                          then the following week i'd do

                          8 x 60
                          8 x 64
                          8 x 64 and then slowly go up that way.

                          I've got friends who go heavy first then decrease the weight.


                          For the DBs I would either just bang out 3 sets of the highest DBs I can do, or get someone to spot me on the next highest e.g.

                          47.5 kg pair x 6 (3) In brackets the no of reps i was assisted.

                          As DBs go up in increments and I don't have the microweight adjustments you can use to get over your plateau, I find this a good working method for DBs not BB Bench.
                           
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                            Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 14:46 (permalink)
                            Incredible Bulk


                            *warm up*

                            example weights

                            160kg - 6 reps
                            155kg - 6 reps
                            150kg - 6 reps

                            now if i started the other way round i know i wouldnt hit 160kg as i would have spend a good amount of energy on the lighter sets i could already handle.

                            more weight = more stimuli = more growth

                            why train with weight you can easily handle for the majority of the sets is beyond me


                            This is because you train like a bodybuilder.   Pyramids usually mean you are working to a single or double. What you are doing is a reverse pyramid of sorts BTW.

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                              Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 16:00 (permalink)
                              I do a warm-up set of 60kg for 20 then something along the lines of

                              1x10 (80kg)
                              1x8 (85kg)
                              1x8 (85kg)

                              may do 3 sets of just 80 depending on how im feeling on the day but tends to be around the 80kg mark


                               
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                                Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 16:19 (permalink)
                                Incredible Bulk


                                *warm up*

                                example weights

                                160kg - 6 reps
                                155kg - 6 reps
                                150kg - 6 reps

                                now if i started the other way round i know i wouldnt hit 160kg as i would have spend a good amount of energy on the lighter sets i could already handle.

                                more weight = more stimuli = more growth

                                why train with weight you can easily handle for the majority of the sets is beyond me

                                That's one way that clearly works for you.
                                 
                                However. If someone were to do, say, 3 sets on 155 of 6 reps. The total weight lifted would be the same. So you may have the heavier work set, but you also have the lighter work set. Would you work each set to failure? That doesn't work for some but the 2 methods both have the same total volume lifted of 2790kg, one involving a few sets possibly to failure, 1 involving none.
                                 
                                That said I like a (sort of) mix of both, I have one lift I usually work up to a single maximal set on (no real backwards pyramidding tho) and then another exercise where I'll do 3 sets on one weight.
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                                  Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 16:37 (permalink)
                                  why do you always follow a set rep and weight routine???? thats why your not increasing, i normaly do 2 warm up sets

                                  10x60kg
                                  6x100kg
                                  8x180kg
                                  2x220kg
                                  6x200kg
                                  10x170kg
                                  i always change, sometime i up the weight quicker other times i go slower and more reps but i keep between 6-8 reps for atleast 2 sets, the other 2 sets i will go as heavy or as light as i want
                                   
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                                    Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 04 November 2009 22:33 (permalink)
                                    triples doubles singles back up to doubles and triples and next routine speed sets
                                     
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                                      Re:Bench Press - yet another question! 05 November 2009 19:40 (permalink)
                                      Incredible Bulk


                                      *warm up*

                                      example weights

                                      160kg - 6 reps
                                      155kg - 6 reps
                                      150kg - 6 reps

                                      now if i started the other way round i know i wouldnt hit 160kg as i would have spend a good amount of energy on the lighter sets i could already handle.

                                      more weight = more stimuli = more growth

                                      why train with weight you can easily handle for the majority of the sets is beyond me

                                       
                                      when warming up what weight do you go up to?
                                       
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