Possible tren cough on Tren Enathate ?????? WTF??

Hi guys,

been a while since im posted im alive and well and still pinnin EOD.

Did a cut, then bulk now cutting.

I recently started loading up 2 pins at a time to save a green pin basicaly and for convience as if your jabbin EOD then makes sence really.

A few weeks back I was doing Tren Enan, Prop and NPP

Now I been on a cut which I was doing Just Prop and NPP (NPP bad choice for cut and NEVER using for cut again) . I been loading up 2 pins at once for a few weeks and there was one I forgot about. Not sure how many weeks/days had been there.

Now anyways,     half way through injecting the barel locked i was pressing hard and it wouldnt budge, kept pressing firmly and stayed relaxed. Finally the last 1.5ml went in slow enough.  2 mins later, started coughing continusly, my mouth tasted of oil, I was sweating buckets and needed water and lie down for like 20 mins. Almost felt like gona be sick.

Thing is I'm not sure if this pin I had pre loaded was some tren, prop & NPP     or just prop and NPP  ??

But im think it was just Prop and NPP, the reason I have doubts is I got that cough that I hear so much with tren ace, but not Enanthate. Do you think I just nicked a vien or nerve? Never had a side like that after injecting.


Today a few weeks after I bought some tren Ace, masteron and Test Prop now, but the above that injected was defo BEFORE I had started using the tren ace. Any ideas guys?

Anyone had a Tren ENathate cough?

BUFF

 
 BUFF!

alot less common, but it can actually happen with ANY gear thats oil based.  there just seems to be something about tren especially hex or ace that causes extra reaction in the lungs

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Yes, had it a few times using test/tren/mast all enthanate esters. As daz says you can get it on any gear. Read over on uk-muscle that when you get symptoms as you describe you're actually causing an embolism by nicking a vein and allowing some of the gear to be injected into it. Obviously (as BBers arn't dropping dead from "tren" cough) mostly your body can deal with this by clearing out the clots on its own accord, but it could potentially lead to some health (heart) problems.

Best advice is just aspirate and then keep the needle steady as possible. As you said you had to really force the needle then you would have most likely moved it about a bit, hitting a vein which you didn't upon initial injection (thus aspirating would have given the all clear initially).

I had a healthy dose of the cough with NPP and Omnas in the same barrel.

Also had it with Test Prop.

i had cough with tren ace so bad once that i actually blacked out! felt rough for hours afterwards.   was when i lived at home with the parents!

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i ALWAYS aspirate every shot, always have always will, go blood on my 1st injection, then never since. Done 100's since then.

No blood this time, I'm quite steady with my shots was in a bit of a rush but still not to the point Id shoot too fast.

Oh well who knows what meds it was, but I wasnt enjoyable.

I'm on the last of my stuff so If i do preload Ill know, Using one - rip 200 right now with some extra test prop.

Had a 4 test E amps, Im using them EOD for now (i want them gone because if I have them about and pins lying about I might jump into another cycle) and been on over a year now with a 2 month break in between.

This week im doing much more gear than Id usual do, but I want a big break and not gona throw good gear out.

So just use this test E up fast, then got 8ml's "one rip" and 13mls BD Prop 100mg.

Might use prop for now and finish with the one rip, makes alot more sence now that I write it down.  What ya recon ?

Using T-3 at 50-75mcg a day for a month, gona do 2 weeks low dose clen. on and off

got about a months worth of gear here. and plenty HCG clomid and nolv and a-dex

 
 BUFF!

dazc


alot less common, but it can actually happen with ANY gear thats oil based.  there just seems to be something about tren especially hex or ace that causes extra reaction in the lungs

I have had it twice out of 8 jabs with UGL sust now and like BUFF I thought it was the tren I had shot moments before hand as I thought only tren would cause this.  Not nice at all, its not as bad as tren but certainly tates rank and made me feell "off" for the rest of the day on sunday :(

Stats:

Bench: 165Kg 1RM
Squat: 190Kg 1RM
Deadlift: 220kg 1RM

Oh well this makes me a bit more at ease.

I dont want that feeling again anyway, my bad for pre loading injects. But thought with EOD jabs made sense at the time.

I think I will load up 2 pins again, but I'll make not what Im loading.

Either way going by you guys this is seems to happen randomly/ rarely with any ester.

Ive not had "tren Ace" cough I know that for sure,

BUFF

 
 BUFF!

Tren Cough doesnt have anything to do with hitting veins. Its just the luck of the draw. I  have done about 20 Tren Ace shots now with no cough so I think I am safe.

However I did once get a very slight cough from NPP

buff, sorry its abit off topic... how did you find the prop and npp?? did you have much water retention?? im just curious as im meant to be starting this cycle next month but dont really want the watery look over xmas... im debating whether to drop the npp and use tren ace.

Irish Beast


Tren Cough doesnt have anything to do with hitting veins. Its just the luck of the draw. I  have done about 20 Tren Ace shots now with no cough so I think I am safe.

However I did once get a very slight cough from NPP

What do you mean "luck of the draw"? What it's to do with if it's not about the gear getting into the blood stream? Pretty sure it doesn't just happen by magic not to take the p1ss mate, but not sure what your train of thought is here!

All4n

Irish Beast


Tren Cough doesnt have anything to do with hitting veins. Its just the luck of the draw. I  have done about 20 Tren Ace shots now with no cough so I think I am safe.

However I did once get a very slight cough from NPP

What do you mean "luck of the draw"? What it's to do with if it's not about the gear getting into the blood stream? Pretty sure it doesn't just happen by magic not to take the p1ss mate, but not sure what your train of thought is here!

+1

Id give u some rep, if I knew how on here.

 
 BUFF!

All4n

Irish Beast


Tren Cough doesnt have anything to do with hitting veins. Its just the luck of the draw. I  have done about 20 Tren Ace shots now with no cough so I think I am safe.

However I did once get a very slight cough from NPP

What do you mean "luck of the draw"? What it's to do with if it's not about the gear getting into the blood stream? Pretty sure it doesn't just happen by magic not to take the p1ss mate, but not sure what your train of thought is here!

Okay maybe not a good choice of words. Obviously there is something scientific behind it but nobody can seem to pinpoint exactly why it happens (or have they?) I know people who have done 50+ shots of Ace and on number 57 they get the cough! Everything has been the same. Thats what I meant!

AlriteGeezer


buff, sorry its abit off topic... how did you find the prop and npp?? did you have much water retention?? im just curious as im meant to be starting this cycle next month but dont really want the watery look over xmas... im debating whether to drop the npp and use tren ace.

Hey geeze,

Prop is fine, original BD stuff stings like a bitch, got some sterile oil, not tried the new BD.eu yet but thier Tren was kick ass!! best i used.

I highly DONT recomend NPP as a cutting drug, on paper it looks like the ideal cutter with a shorter ester,

But A-dex normally kills all bloat in me. Not this time!! face especially. Unless you want your cheeks to puff up then go ahead.

NPP is a short estered med IMO okfor bulking, in which case u jab twice a week (usually) with NPP you need to jab at least 3 times to keep blood levels stable.

Get Tren Ace or hell ...even enathate, would work much better than NPP.

Got some pro rip 200 which is a blend of tren ace, test prop, and mast. Really good fomula, saving that for end of my cycle now.

Botem line, NPP is preaty useless as u need to admister it like a cutting med and its more ideal for bulking, with bad water ret.

If gona use a nandralone I'd just stick with normal deca, but you could use NPP as a front load with test prop possibly and test E/C or Sust.

Thats what I think anyway.

BUFF

 
 BUFF!

I really liked NPP and didn't carry much water of it at all. Might be different for you though.

As BUFF said I wouldn't use it for a cutter though. I'd probably just run Test Prop on its own to be honest

OP i got a really bad cough last night on a cyp/deca shot. Really knocked the sh1t out of me. Couldn't stop coughing and was then out of breath for 10 mins afterwards.

jnr2006


OP i got a really bad cough last night on a cyp/deca shot. Really knocked the sh1t out of me. Couldn't stop coughing and was then out of breath for 10 mins afterwards.

Yeah this is kinda what I was like, well.... all my symtoms I wrote above. But not nice is it? did you get the oil taste in your mouth?

Yet to have it with tren....touch wood.


As for cutting, test prop, tren ace and mast. and T3 with clen (take taurine with clen... essential)

But if I had a chance to get time from my life comitments. id do a another DNP cycle in a blink of an eye. ( i dont recomend this unless you really know what ur doing and read a researched heaps as it can be leathal and is not an enjoyable med/chem) Search for my log on DNP in OPED section on this site, alot of good info there.

 
 BUFF!

BUFF STUFF

AlriteGeezer


buff, sorry its abit off topic... how did you find the prop and npp?? did you have much water retention?? im just curious as im meant to be starting this cycle next month but dont really want the watery look over xmas... im debating whether to drop the npp and use tren ace.

Hey geeze,

Prop is fine, original BD stuff stings like a bitch, got some sterile oil, not tried the new BD.eu yet but thier Tren was kick ass!! best i used.

I highly DONT recomend NPP as a cutting drug, on paper it looks like the ideal cutter with a shorter ester,

But A-dex normally kills all bloat in me. Not this time!! face especially. Unless you want your cheeks to puff up then go ahead.

NPP is a short estered med IMO okfor bulking, in which case u jab twice a week (usually) with NPP you need to jab at least 3 times to keep blood levels stable.

Get Tren Ace or hell ...even enathate, would work much better than NPP.

Got some pro rip 200 which is a blend of tren ace, test prop, and mast. Really good fomula, saving that for end of my cycle now.

Botem line, NPP is preaty useless as u need to admister it like a cutting med and its more ideal for bulking, with bad water ret.

If gona use a nandralone I'd just stick with normal deca, but you could use NPP as a front load with test prop possibly and test E/C or Sust.

Thats what I think anyway.

BUFF

sorry guys, i didnt make my intentions clear.. i dont plan on cutting with the prop and npp, i want a lean bulker, but i do get water retention pretty bad even when my diet is spot on, its specially bad on my face. mmmm got to think about this one abit  more, i really dont want a bloated look over xmas. Thanks for the replies

NPP is a great bulker. I ran proviron at 25mg a day and everything was sweet

yo dudes,

I used sust EOD & mast with it 75mg EOD with 100mg NPP EOD still got some bloat.

But the mast did helped the face bloat somewhat, but still I find it almost impossible to block NPP bloat completely. Most long esters I have used (All tests, Tren EN, Mast en) a-dex stops bloat for me about 90% +

Lean bulk?

Prop and tren and mast!  Throw in some T3 if required. Job done, get some HCG (esp for the tren!) and the usual ancilaries and ur laughing!

 
 BUFF!

Irish Beast

All4n

Irish Beast


Tren Cough doesnt have anything to do with hitting veins. Its just the luck of the draw. I  have done about 20 Tren Ace shots now with no cough so I think I am safe.

However I did once get a very slight cough from NPP

What do you mean "luck of the draw"? What it's to do with if it's not about the gear getting into the blood stream? Pretty sure it doesn't just happen by magic not to take the p1ss mate, but not sure what your train of thought is here!

Okay maybe not a good choice of words. Obviously there is something scientific behind it but nobody can seem to pinpoint exactly why it happens (or have they?) I know people who have done 50+ shots of Ace and on number 57 they get the cough! Everything has been the same. Thats what I meant!

Yea but this is what i mean mate, if the cough happens on jab number 57 is because you just so happened to nick a vein on that particular jab. So even everything being the same is doesn't matter, you can't see where the needle is once it's in your leg/@rse etc. IME it can happen if you accidently wiggle the needle about slight once it's in, this can then hit a vein causing the cough. So even with aspirating it doesn't matter, you don't want to re-aspirate mid jab.

BUFF STUFF

jnr2006


OP i got a really bad cough last night on a cyp/deca shot. Really knocked the sh1t out of me. Couldn't stop coughing and was then out of breath for 10 mins afterwards.

Yeah this is kinda what I was like, well.... all my symtoms I wrote above. But not nice is it? did you get the oil taste in your mouth?

Yet to have it with tren....touch wood.


As for cutting, test prop, tren ace and mast. and T3 with clen (take taurine with clen... essential)

But if I had a chance to get time from my life comitments. id do a another DNP cycle in a blink of an eye. ( i dont recomend this unless you really know what ur doing and read a researched heaps as it can be leathal and is not an enjoyable med/chem) Search for my log on DNP in OPED section on this site, alot of good info there.

Not nice at all mate. Yeah got the oil taste in my mouth.
had some DNP before but didn't use it in the end. had a mate who did and he lost quiet alot of weight but ended up not being able to train a few days into his cycle of it. Couldn't sleep and even missed 2 days of work as he was that drained from it.
 

jnr2006

BUFF STUFF

jnr2006


OP i got a really bad cough last night on a cyp/deca shot. Really knocked the sh1t out of me. Couldn't stop coughing and was then out of breath for 10 mins afterwards.

Yeah this is kinda what I was like, well.... all my symtoms I wrote above. But not nice is it? did you get the oil taste in your mouth?

Yet to have it with tren....touch wood.


As for cutting, test prop, tren ace and mast. and T3 with clen (take taurine with clen... essential)

But if I had a chance to get time from my life comitments. id do a another DNP cycle in a blink of an eye. ( i dont recomend this unless you really know what ur doing and read a researched heaps as it can be leathal and is not an enjoyable med/chem) Search for my log on DNP in OPED section on this site, alot of good info there.

Not nice at all mate. Yeah got the oil taste in my mouth.
had some DNP before but didn't use it in the end. had a mate who did and he lost quiet alot of weight but ended up not being able to train a few days into his cycle of it. Couldn't sleep and even missed 2 days of work as he was that drained from it.
 

Good wise words from All4n again above.

Hey jnr, 

the oil thing is nasty. I thought I was gona be sick! Think i was but just a lil bit of oil lol.

Why did u not use the DNP ? I lost heaps of weight on my second cycle, prob 10-14 pounds, unfortunatly not all fat but most, I do recomend A/AS support for its use. Not that I have but going by the logic and chemistry of the compound and how it works it makes sence. Id think test prop 100mg EOD would be perfect, orals are outa the question IMO.

As for your mate, yes Insomonia is common as is leathargy,  and yea the reason im not on it is because of life comitments at the mo, at normal doses its still catches up with ya!!

 
 BUFF!