ard-eoin tim
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06 November 2009 13:30
i have 12 weeks of test-e 500mg with adex and some nolva for pct . im thinking of frontloading in the 1st week with 1000mg and doing 11 weeks as i dont really want to wait about 4-5 weeks before i start seeing any gains when frontloading will i see more sides etc and would they be worse . i dont really want to blow up with alot of water in the 1st week as i dont want people to notice that im on . will i take more adex in week 1 if i frontload and will this hinder any gains
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wiffers
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Re:frontloading
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06 November 2009 13:55
you wont notice more sides as your levels will still be low (the whole point of frontloading) I'd frontload first week of an 11 week cycle like you say
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06 November 2009 14:07
I love front loading, it defo does speed up the concentration of plasma levels in the blood. People will dispute this but its fact, it should reduce the time it takes to 'kick in' People also go mad at the term 'kick in' but there really is a time in the cycle that it blows your socks off. That is unless you have done 100's of cycles
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ard-eoin tim
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06 November 2009 14:13
do i put the whole 1000mg in 1 syringe or do i split it into 2 500s mon and thrus
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06 November 2009 14:15
I personally don`t bother front loading. The gears active from the first day anyway. I dont see the point in gaining lots of water overly quick. I prefer to slowly get an even blood concentration of whatever i`m using. I prefer using an oral for the first few weeks instead.
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ard-eoin tim
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06 November 2009 16:11
alistairh . I dont see the point in gaining lots of water overly quick. . I prefer using an oral for the first few weeks instead. this is one thing that i want to watch while taking this.so is there a massive increase of water rettiton while front loading
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06 November 2009 16:38
A bit, not a lot. Why not just do 12 weeks straight. It really isn't the end of the world mate. Apart from wanting to 'get on' quicker there will be little difference as you'll be on for an extra week. I doubt you'd notice much difference in the long term anyway ... Think you're worrying about nothing mate
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ard-eoin tim
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07 November 2009 00:29
wiffers A bit, not a lot. Why not just do 12 weeks straight. It really isn't the end of the world mate. Apart from wanting to 'get on' quicker there will be little difference as you'll be on for an extra week. I doubt you'd notice much difference in the long term anyway ... Think you're worrying about nothing mate man i dont really want to wait untill the 4/5 weeks to start seing gains .
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07 November 2009 15:10
if your going to frontload then this is how you do it. (thanks to Bigfella) COPY & PASTE: Here is an article I wrote on here years ago in 2002 explaining simply how a frontload works:- Here is an example to simplify the activity for anyone not a believer in how it works, we will take a straight dose of 400mg/week in our example and see how blood levels are affected through the first few weeks, we will, for ease of maths, ignore the ester weight which is irrelevant to the outcome anyway other than dose difference. We will assume the steroid has a half-life of 7 days. Week 1 start 400mg administered, after 7 days, 200mg left, so 200mg dose delivered in that week. Week 2 400mg admin to give total 600mg, after 7 days, 300mg left, so 300mg delivered in that week. Week 3 400mg admin to give 700mg total, after 7 days, 350mg left, so 350mg delivered in that week. Week 4 400mg admin to give total 750mg, after 7 days, 375mg left, so 375mg delivered in that week. As we can see even by the close of play in week 4, we are only getting 375mg of steroid in that week, it has slowly risen from 200mg, 300mg, 350mg to 375mg by week 4, it will continue creeping until you are getting the full weekly dose in a single week. Now let us view the same dose, only following a front-load, we will double the weekly dose for week 1 only, everything else will remain the same. Week 1 800mg administered, after 7 days, 400mg left, so 400mg delivered in that week. There you have it! We have achieved the peak cycle dose (not exceeded it) by the end of week 1 as opposed to still short at end week 4 with a straight dose, you can continue adding the dose and halfing and see it stays constant at 400mg/week delivered.....Result!!! The benefit of achieving peak doses earlier in the cycle? Obviously achieving the gaining part of the cycle earlier is the benefit rather than waiting 4 to 5 weeks for the dose to peak and level out somewhat. A good rule of thumb to front-loading is to take the dose you are to administer each half-life and double it upto the first half-life period in the cycle, this will not overshoot your peak, so there is no dropping of levels at any later date. It is also beneficial to the maintenance of even blood concentrations to split that weekly dose up as evenly distributed through the week as possible. Bigfella.
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