Daari
-
Total Posts
:
9490
-
Reward points
:
6488
- Joined: 09/11/2003
- Location: United Kingdom
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
cooking whey?
09 November 2009 20:17
( permalink)
I've seen a few recipes as of late that require the ingredients (such as those of a protein bar) to be cooked in the oven for upto 30mins. I always though that this would denature the whey? Anyone care to elaborate please?
|
|
|
|
GazS
-
Total Posts
:
1955
-
Reward points
:
2289
- Joined: 05/12/2008
- Location: Ilkeston/Derbyshire
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
09 November 2009 20:41
( permalink)
It's fine, honesly. If your that bothered make none bake protein bars, mousses or whatever.
|
|
|
|
theiopener
-
Total Posts
:
28215
-
Reward points
:
4622
- Joined: 06/01/2007
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 07:40
( permalink)
Denaturing is fine. Protien damage is what you need to be worried about. It occurs naturally anyway. What do you think happens when it hits stomach acid and digestive enzymes?
|
|
|
|
R3261
-
Total Posts
:
3521
-
Reward points
:
3825
- Joined: 27/07/2007
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 15:31
( permalink)
protein damage ?
|
|
|
|
theiopener
-
Total Posts
:
28215
-
Reward points
:
4622
- Joined: 06/01/2007
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 15:32
( permalink)
burning it
|
|
|
|
Big Les
-
Total Posts
:
12403
-
Reward points
:
8480
- Joined: 16/08/2001
- Location: Exclusively on MuscleTalk
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 16:25
( permalink)
there is inevitably a denaturing of the protein - that is its no longer the protein it used to be. A but like whey having a midlife crisis :) LOL - anyway This means that for the uber techno precise brigade - your protein is not as much protein as it was when it started by a little bit - how much I am sure can be worked out in a food science lab somewhere - but I dont care. and at the end of the rather rainy day here - you are getting something rather than nothing when you add whey - which was the point in the first place :) les
NOW OPEN: Muscle Factory Lancaster Lancaster's only Gym for serious trainers Les Willis: Nutrition Cons... 2nd June: Body-weight Challenge, Squat ane Bench your body weight for reps to win £250 - registration at 2:00pm
|
|
|
|
theiopener
-
Total Posts
:
28215
-
Reward points
:
4622
- Joined: 06/01/2007
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 17:43
( permalink)
That doesnt sound right to me Les. Denaturation by my understanding is the structure is changed but not the amino acid content. An example of this is whipping an egg white into a stiff foam from a gloopy liquid. The structure has changed, but its still an egg white with the same aminos.
|
|
|
|
Big Les
-
Total Posts
:
12403
-
Reward points
:
8480
- Joined: 16/08/2001
- Location: Exclusively on MuscleTalk
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 18:12
( permalink)
I will steal the wiki entry for denaturing "When a protein is denatured, the secondary and tertiary structures are altered but the peptide bonds between the amino acids are left intact. Since the structure of the protein determines its function, the protein can no longer perform its function once it has been denatured. This is in contrast to intrinsically unstructured proteins, which are unfolded in their native state, but still functionally active." :)
NOW OPEN: Muscle Factory Lancaster Lancaster's only Gym for serious trainers Les Willis: Nutrition Cons... 2nd June: Body-weight Challenge, Squat ane Bench your body weight for reps to win £250 - registration at 2:00pm
|
|
|
|
theiopener
-
Total Posts
:
28215
-
Reward points
:
4622
- Joined: 06/01/2007
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 18:16
( permalink)
Does that extract also come in English? :)
|
|
|
|
Big Les
-
Total Posts
:
12403
-
Reward points
:
8480
- Joined: 16/08/2001
- Location: Exclusively on MuscleTalk
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 18:39
( permalink)
er - aminos are the same but the structure is different. It was also my understanding that heat - as opposed to a mechanical denaturing caused a change of structure in the amino acid itself - akin to what happens in other molecules when heat is applied
NOW OPEN: Muscle Factory Lancaster Lancaster's only Gym for serious trainers Les Willis: Nutrition Cons... 2nd June: Body-weight Challenge, Squat ane Bench your body weight for reps to win £250 - registration at 2:00pm
|
|
|
|
badladmark
-
Total Posts
:
2001
-
Reward points
:
3198
- Joined: 22/03/2009
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
11 November 2009 23:14
( permalink)
Basically what it means is its fine, and won't really reduce the amount of protein you're getting. Just don't worry about it, I think is the message.
|
|
|
|
Daari
-
Total Posts
:
9490
-
Reward points
:
6488
- Joined: 09/11/2003
- Location: United Kingdom
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
12 November 2009 19:42
( permalink)
if the tertiary structure has been altered then surely it's effect in the body would change?
|
|
|
|
badladmark
-
Total Posts
:
2001
-
Reward points
:
3198
- Joined: 22/03/2009
-
Status: offline
- Read my TROG
|
Re:cooking whey?
12 November 2009 22:34
( permalink)
if it bothers you that much, don't eat it!
|
|
|
|