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UFC 105 - 10 November 2009 00:14
I am going this Saturday.
 
Going to also put a £10 double on Couture/Bisping to both win - will return about £35
 
My picks
 
Couture
Bisping
Mike quick Swick
James Wilks
Aaron Riley
 
Tempted to put £2 accumilator on these 5 fights as it would return about £30

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Re:UFC 105 - 10 November 2009 13:46
my picks would be

Vera
Bisping
Swick
Wilks
Riley

look foward to it :)

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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 19:32
Couture - Decsion
Swick - (T)KO
Kang - Decsion
Brown - (T)KO
Riley - (T)KO

Im not happy about the countdown show not being on before the event.
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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 19:45
whats going on wit ESPN its shows havent matched the schedule all day ffs

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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 22:45
well done on your win mancityfan if you put the bet on.... gotta say though as much as i like randy, vera got robbed badly...
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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 22:56
How did Bisping get on, missed this fight

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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 23:10
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How did Bisping get on, missed this fight


Got rocked early on and was dominated by Kang on the ground but showed great defence, second round Bisping took Kang down and pounded him for a couple of minutes and finally won by TKO. He was good in the performance but he needs two middle tier opponents before he trys to take on Marquardt or Wanderlei Silva
 
Vera got robbed too

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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 23:21

well done on your win mancityfan if you put the bet on.... gotta say though as much as i like randy, vera got robbed badly...


I need to watch this again but Vera definately did the most damage but Randy obviously got points for pinning him against the cage. which is BS.
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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 23:25
Bisping was very impressive IMO. I thought when Kang dropped him early in round one it was all over, but he resisted very well.

Kang is a BJJ black belt and had side control and full mount yet he couldn't do anything with it because of Bispings escapes. Bisping didn't panic and rode it out 'till the end of the round. After that he just went mental. Glad to see him come back from the Hendo disaster with a convincing win.

As much as I love Randy Couture, Vera should have got the decision. It was close, and Randy controlled the fight by pressing Vera up against the cage whilst trying to get the takedown. But when Vera got the rare chance to open up and strike, he scored the more damaging shots.

Vera won the fight in my opinion, but it was still close as Randy was able to close him down very well.


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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 23:26
vera didnt win???? WHAT???
i watched it on an online strea,m and it stopped 10 secs from the end...... i was certian he won!!!!!!!!!
seriously, couture won that fight??? not a chance!!!!!!!
did hardy win as well??missed his fight..
wasnt impressed by bisping.. never impresses me!

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Re:UFC 105 - 14 November 2009 23:41
yeah Hardy won. He deserved it too. He had Swick rocked a couple of times and could have finished him off but for some reason didn't. He certainly deserved the decision though.

I don't think he's ready for GSP though. If Hardy gets a shot at GSP before Fitch, then I think that'd be a little unfair.


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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 00:00
I think Fitch should face winner of Johnson vs Koscheck for number contender whilst Hardy takes on GSP next. Hardy may have got there quick but he beat Swick convincingly and against another 10 in Marcus Davies.

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 00:55
WOW WAT A NIGHT I WENT AND IT WAS AMAZING :)
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 09:51
Must say, James Wlks looked awfull! So slow from the get go,and he got even slower in the fight! Was a different fighter compared to when he fought in the UF finale.

Good win for Dan Hardy, GSP might be a step to high too soon, then again, he hasnt showed an sign of being outclassed as yet!

Andre got a good win, and I hear Paul Dley had a great win too, could see the UFC over run with brits soon!

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 14:45
has anybody got a link to these fights like a replay i cant find 1 anywhere :( cheers
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 15:10
Best UFC I think I've seen for a while.

Vera v Couture was a shock.
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 17:15
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 17:27
Couture blatently won that fight,
Vera didn't do anything on those occassions he got randy down.
Vera did get about 10 strikes that could of taken down a rhino, but he did not capatilse on those opportunities!

Couture immobilsed any movement from Vera, using effective striking from within the clinch for basically the whole fight.

Points are awarded for grappling, aggression and octagon control, not just a few good leg kicks.

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 17:44
Couture Vera just went through the motions - it was a sh1t fight, the worst of the night...

Bisping started out nervously, then took his opportunity and totally finished Kang :-D

Hardy was pretty good, but ditto not ready for GSP.

Was gutted Matthew Riddle lost on the undercard, I think from teh sounds of the guys behind me, I was the only one cheering for him in the crowd!!!

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 18:00
JBRSS


Cardifflad


How did Bisping get on, missed this fight


Got rocked early on and was dominated by Kang on the ground but showed great defence, second round Bisping took Kang down and pounded him for a couple of minutes and finally won by TKO. He was good in the performance but he needs two middle tier opponents before he trys to take on Marquardt or Wanderlei Silva
 
Vera got robbed too


Cheers mate. I saw every other fight apart from Bisping.

I thought it was a tough one to judge Randy v Vera

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 18:12
Couture - Vera - disappointing, although IMO Vera won
Great result for Dan Hardy
Thought Bisping was lucky to survive the first , but fair play to him for coming back
Good display from Ross Pearson too

Best fights were on the undercard - Terry Etim, Dennis Siver with a specatcular back kick, big ko for Andre Winner

Absolutely delighted that Slick Nick defeated Matt Riddle 

Also thought the MEN was a superb venue!

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 18:47
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Couture blatently won that fight,
Vera didn't do anything on those occassions he got randy down.
Vera did get about 10 strikes that could of taken down a rhino, but he did not capatilse on those opportunities!

Couture immobilsed any movement from Vera, using effective striking from within the clinch for basically the whole fight.

Points are awarded for grappling, aggression and octagon control, not just a few good leg kicks.


wasnt blatant at all...
most of the clinches were broken up by the ref cos couture did f*ck all in them.. vera was the aggressor, and did more on the ground.. imo vera had it!! couture himself said he wouldnt have been disappointed if he had lost it as he was impressed with vera...vera should have done more to finish couture, but as they always say, if u leave it in the hands of the judges then u stand the chance of gettin f*ckt!! couture is a clever fighter and did things well which will score him pts in the judges eyes..

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 19:37
http://www.justin.tv/zombie_grcvity link to ufc 105.
Donnyboy it was amazing atomsphere.
Going to try get bisping to sign my ticket lol hopefully will come in the gym and train soon .
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 20:05
Atmosphere was indeed brilliant!

I'm sure that song started out as there's only one Paul Taylor & changed when he was getting whupped.

Do you train at Wolfslair?  Is Bisping approachable - always comes across as being a bit of a nob , but maybe thats just on camera.

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 20:18
i train at a  gym and he trains in there sometimes not mma training weightraining.I havent really spoke to him before but he seems approachable owner of gym got some pictures of him and he didnt mind. He has got a cocky nature about him but he seems or8
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 20:27
Cool - hope he signs it for you mate. Be good if you could get an MT thumbs up pic with him 
Probably similar to Carl Froch, he comes across as a cocky **** but he's a really sound guy when you meet him.


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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 20:42
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Couture blatently won that fight,
Vera didn't do anything on those occassions he got randy down.
Vera did get about 10 strikes that could of taken down a rhino, but he did not capatilse on those opportunities!

Couture immobilsed any movement from Vera, using effective striking from within the clinch for basically the whole fight.

Points are awarded for grappling, aggression and octagon control, not just a few good leg kicks.


wasnt blatant at all...
most of the clinches were broken up by the ref cos couture did f*ck all in them.. vera was the aggressor, and did more on the ground.. imo vera had it!! couture himself said he wouldnt have been disappointed if he had lost it as he was impressed with vera...vera should have done more to finish couture, but as they always say, if u leave it in the hands of the judges then u stand the chance of gettin f*ckt!! couture is a clever fighter and did things well which will score him pts in the judges eyes..


Couture did plenty whilst in the clinch, elbows, uppercuts, knees. Vera was man handled like a b1tch

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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 21:01
lol when he next comes in i will try get a pic with him and i will post it on here ;)
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 22:33
Thought that was defo a Vera win. His Muay Thai is excellent, vicious shots to the body, his cardio is questionable though. The ref was too slow to seperate them at times.

Was pleasantly suprised with UFC 105.
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Re:UFC 105 - 15 November 2009 22:51
I have to say at the end when Vera took Randy down then Randy got back to his feet I thought Randy was then going to get the decision, what with the way judge seem to call these kind of fights. Vera has always taken the safe option in his fights and this was no different, he did do the most damage but was not the most active fighter. 
Do you think Bispings chin could be gone after the Henderson knockout?
Why did Dan Hardy go in for the clinch whenever he had Swick rocked? I know GSP is the better fighter but with Hardy's punching power and timing I could see him pull off a "Matt Serra" on him.
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Re:UFC 105 - 16 November 2009 11:29
Well I got a message from Nathan Levington the day after, they are planning for GSP already, not sure hes even been given the fight yet lol!

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Re:UFC 105 - 16 November 2009 23:06
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Thought that was defo a Vera win. His Muay Thai is excellent, vicious shots to the body, his cardio is questionable though. The ref was too slow to seperate them at times.

Was pleasantly suprised with UFC 105.




I did think Vera did the more damage in the fight but i think the way Coutore worked in the clinch and broke Vera down impressed me - i think Coutore deserved the win. I was really impressed with 105, enjoyed the Ross Pearson fight and also the Bispin fight too. 

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I know GSP is the better fighter but with Hardy's punching power and timing I could see him pull off a "Matt Serra" on him.


Im sorry but i dont think Hardy will get any where near GSP. I think GSP just to good at the moment. Best pound for pound fighter in the UFC IMO



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Re:UFC 105 - 18 November 2009 19:11
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Absolutely delighted that Slick Nick defeated Matt Riddle 


 
Maybe it was you sitting behind me in Block 20SOMETHING... :-D


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Re:UFC 105 - 18 November 2009 21:21
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donnyboy


Absolutely delighted that Slick Nick defeated Matt Riddle 


 
Maybe it was you sitting behind me in Block 20SOMETHING... :-D



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Re:UFC 105 - 18 November 2009 22:34
great event!!  bisping was a beast from the top! 

thought vera v couture was really close to call.  id give it to vera as he inflicted most damage.  since when has fighting been pushing someone up agianst the cage 90% ofthe time.  ok he was controling him but so what its waste of time, dont think any pts should be given for this.  vera striking was imense.  couture escape from the mount was lovely tho

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Re:UFC 105 - 18 November 2009 23:07
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I know GSP is the better fighter but with Hardy's punching power and timing I could see him pull off a "Matt Serra" on him.


Im sorry but i dont think Hardy will get any where near GSP. I think GSP just to good at the moment. Best pound for pound fighter in the UFC IMO


Fully agree with that, GSP stands a level above everyone else in that division. Still can't believe how good he was in his last 2 fights.
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Re:UFC 105 - 19 November 2009 00:16
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I know GSP is the better fighter but with Hardy's punching power and timing I could see him pull off a "Matt Serra" on him.


Im sorry but i dont think Hardy will get any where near GSP. I think GSP just to good at the moment. Best pound for pound fighter in the UFC IMO


Fully agree with that, GSP stands a level above everyone else in that division. Still can't believe how good he was in his last 2 fights.



He was superb against Thiego Alves but i think he was even better against B.J Penn. GSP just seems to dominate his opponent and has got a wide range of techniques - not just good standing, he's good in the clinch and on the ground. I dont think Dan Heady has got any where near the skills to beat him. I know he's only fought 4 fights but i dont think he'll ever be good enough



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Re:UFC 105 - 23 November 2009 00:22
Bit late to this thread but nevermind!

Hardy was very impressive IMO although at times looked like he didn't know when to go in for the finish. He would have almost no chance against GSP right now, but then who does?

Very pleased for Bisping and a good fight for him, but I worry slightly about his chin as was mentioned earlier in the thread

It seems time has finally caught up with Randy, thought the decision could have gone either way, would personally have given it to Vera but either way it was not a vintage Randy performance at all

Wilks not looking good on the night

Pearson totally dominant, very impressive, an easy win over a decent opponent

Winner brutal KO, not sure that those couple of taps after the KO will do his image much good (nothing major though IMO, nothing damaging like Henderson put on Bisping for example)

Etim slow start but impressive finish

Didn't see the others but will watch at some point. Sounds like it was a good event from everyone who was there



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Re:UFC 105 - 01 December 2009 21:55
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Cool - hope he signs it for you mate. Be good if you could get an MT thumbs up pic with him 
Probably similar to Carl Froch, he comes across as a cocky **** but he's a really sound guy when you meet him.


Or8 m8 bisping came in today and i talked to him lol told him how i was cheering him on an stuff he seemed really happy speaking to me  shook my hand and sed he would sign my ufc ticket when he next comes in :) I thought he wasnt approachable an seemed cocky but he wernt he was cool  lol gonna get a picture too probs on thursday now =)
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Re:UFC 105 - 01 December 2009 22:21
Excellent mate - don't forget the MT thumbs up!
Hope he's training hard for Wanderlei - got a sneaky feeling he could win that by GnP!


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