HGH dosage

what would you use as a good dose for HGH?

im looking into getting some for my next cycle, is using 8iu eod standard?
would using 4iu every day make any difference?

advice, im looking to make it worth my while, so what is a good does and how long do i need to run it for.

many thanks!

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shouldnt make too much dif eod or ed.

Start off with 2 iu ed for 2 or 3 weeks otherwise you'll possibly get high bp and sore fingers. Then you can go for 8iu eod or 4iu ed.

I'm using 8iu eod, jabbed at 5:00am in the night during a trip to the bathroom where I can be sure no carbs or fats will blunt the gh.

But there are loads of protocols. Best search.

so jabbing first thing in the morning would be ok as well? say 9am
to be honest ill probably just jump onto doing 4iu every day from the start. my body responds pretty well to gear dont see why hgh should be any different.

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I didn't know GH could be influenced by carbs! I usually take 4IU first thing in the morning, that might be 6AM followed by my oatmeal/protein breakfast 15 minutes later. By the way, I also tried 8IU. In hindsight I think it didn't make a real difference. My fingers went really numb! Also had carpal tunnel syndrome. Sides disappear when you stop GH. Currently I'm taking 4IU in the morning. GH makes you really lean, provided your diet etc is up to par :-)

We become what we think about!

GH will be blunted if followed by either Carbs or fats so injecting around a meal should be avoided...
i have used GH for 5-6yrs and tried pretty much every conceivable way there is and no one way is better than any other....
i prefer to use an EOD protocol when building muscle then ed when dieting...

as for doses this is individual

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hmm so how long after injecting can carbs be consumed?

maybe it would be better injecting before bed, ie 3-4 hours after my last meal

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TomB


so jabbing first thing in the morning would be ok as well? say 9am
to be honest ill probably just jump onto doing 4iu every day from the start. my body responds pretty well to gear dont see why hgh should be any different.

make sure you keep the other 4iu (I'm assuming you have 8iu vials) in the fridge. tbh, the biggest reason I use 8iu eod is to avoid the hassle of storing the GH cold and possibly the degrading however short the storage period is. Just figure that mixing and jabbing the lot in a pulse fashion might be a bit better.

TomB


hmm so how long after injecting can carbs be consumed?

maybe it would be better injecting before bed, ie 3-4 hours after my last meal

before bed is a protocol used by many. But I just wonder whether the tiny bit of natural GH the body produces in the 1st hours of deep sleep might be suppressed this way.

Anyway, I hear that carbs 30 mins after  jabbing is ok.

thanks rocker

so store all the vials in the fridge from the get go? how long do they last if they havnt been opened? and what about an opened vial?

shooting everyday seems like a bit of a pain in the ass anyway (literally) so i might go with the 8ius eod

i take it alternating in the glutes is the best way just like aas?

how long would 8ius of HGH stay in your system for then?

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I inject hgh subq.
 
Totally painless and no hassle to do the jabs daily.

I've always been uncertain as to when to jab GH. According to the Jintropin package insert it depends on your age as well. Unless you are 55 or 60 it is recommended to take it in the morning as you have your natural GH excretion while you sleep. Older people have almost no GH anymore, so they can even take it before they go to bed to support the natural cycle. It was not mentioned that one has to be fasting before the injection. I'm a bit confused now. This morning I took it before my AM cardio as it was convenient, so breakfast was much later. Guess there are usually 10 - 15 minutes between the jab and my oats. You've made me doubt and think :-)
Suffice it to say that it needs to be chilled at all times. When reconstituted it shall be good for 2 days, so they say... I take 4IU per day. I've got to admit I used to take 8 as well as it was more convenient.

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guys there is no huge difference in when you take it.....
leave 30min before eating although the longer you leave it the potential fatloss is higher.....

injecting GH at any time of the day will suppress the output of Natty GH so injecting at night before bed will make no difference....

jab 8iu's either twice a day (am/pm) or all at once before bed it is that simple guys overthinking will just give you stress which in turn will blunt GH output.....

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so its best in the morning i guess,

i think im gonna go for 4ius a day seems more evenly spread out instead of one big spike.

also ill just get up 30 mins early, would it be ok to consume whey protein with it?

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Shooting HGH every other day more accurately replicates the pulsile frequency of HGH, and thus gave better results for growth (height) deficient children, HGH pulsatility is necessary for proper function of the HGH receptor.(10) Dosing in the EOD nature reduces incidence of any sort of withdrawal problems associated with normal HGH use, including regression or retardation of growth after cessation of therapy.
Therefore, I feel very comfortable speculating that the use of HGH in this manner, which more closely simulates the natural secretion pattern of it, allows the HGH receptors and the rest of the body to more efficiently recover from it, and this will result in much more muscle growth over time (although height was examined in the previous study). My recommendations therefore are 2 shots per day of .028iu/kg of bodyweight, taken every other day, for a minimum of 3months, and preferably for 2-3x that long, and preferably with the other synergistic compounds we´ve just taken a look at.

taken from http://www.****/Human-Growth-Hormone.php

however it says the darker bars, which look smaller....

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the problem with this text is it speculates.....it is not fact...
you are looking for an answer that does not exist......there is no one best time to use GH consistancy is the best thing to do....

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where do you inject pscarb?

and what is post injection pain like?

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i take it either IM or Sub-Q the pain is nothing as you use a insulin pin....

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I shoot 2iu  AM prior fasted cv and 2iu PM  after my workout 30-40 mins after my meal.

I've tried 4iu ED and 8iu EOD and can see no difference.
No pain whatsoever from the shot and thats either IM or Sub Q

sorry to sound ignorant guys, but what is sub-q? is it where you inject just under the skin and it forms a bubble on the surface? i had a tb test like this...

or am i confusing it with something else

intramuscular sounds like the easiest option, but what needles do i use and where do i get them?

cheers guys

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Bro read the hgh article it will answer your questions...

pscarb you tried doing your whole weeks worth in one shot mate ive bin reading up on it as youv'e tried most ways bud

TomB


sorry to sound ignorant guys, but what is sub-q? is it where you inject just under the skin and it forms a bubble on the surface? i had a tb test like this...

or am i confusing it with something else

intramuscular sounds like the easiest option, but what needles do i use and where do i get them?

cheers guys

If you don't know what a subq injection is you shouldn't be considering the use of hgh.
 
This shows a distinct lack of research and knowledge of the drug that you ideally need to address before its use imo.
 
You should use insulin pins for both subq and im injections of hgh they are readily available from the likes of medisave etc.
 
 
 
 

yeah well i aint going to inject it next week am i... doy

im thinking in around 4-5 months when i run my next cycle, hence why im asking questions now

the consideration of hgh boils down to its benefits isnt that what sparks interest in the first place? knowledge base is secondary. if you say otherwise your a liar the only reason anyone ever wanted to juice in the first place is because they knew it would make them big and strong first of all.

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TomB


yeah well i aint going to inject it next week am i... doy

im thinking in around 4-5 months when i run my next cycle, hence why im asking questions now

the consideration of hgh boils down to its benefits isnt that what sparks interest in the first place? knowledge base is secondary. if you say otherwise your a liar the only reason anyone ever wanted to juice in the first place is because they knew it would make them big and strong first of all.

 
I don't know when your planning to use hgh because you haven't said but the fact remains you have next to zero knowledge, maybe it would be an idea to research a med and then decide its for you rather than the other way around.
 
Not having a dig mate but what dose hgh and whats a subq injection are very basic questions that you would have found the answers to in 5 mins of research.
 
Another point is you are currently on/ just completed your first cycle, correct?
 
You have never injected any meds what so ever?
 
You are considering hgh in 5 months?
 
Seriously mate you are not ready for hgh, it will just be leave a big hole in your pocket.
  
 

TomB


sorry to sound ignorant guys, but what is sub-q? is it where you inject just under the skin and it forms a bubble on the surface? i had a tb test like this...

or am i confusing it with something else

intramuscular sounds like the easiest option, but what needles do i use and where do i get them?

cheers guys

look here Tom -> http://www.vivaglobin.c...t/AdministeringViva.aspx

Tom, how old are you and how many cycles have you run ?

werdna

TomB


yeah well i aint going to inject it next week am i... doy

im thinking in around 4-5 months when i run my next cycle, hence why im asking questions now

the consideration of hgh boils down to its benefits isnt that what sparks interest in the first place? knowledge base is secondary. if you say otherwise your a liar the only reason anyone ever wanted to juice in the first place is because they knew it would make them big and strong first of all.

 
I don't know when your planning to use hgh because you haven't said but the fact remains you have next to zero knowledge, maybe it would be an idea to research a med and then decide its for you rather than the other way around.
 
Not having a dig mate but what dose hgh and whats a subq injection are very basic questions that you would have found the answers to in 5 mins of research.
 
Another point is you are currently on/ just completed your first cycle, correct?
 
You have never injected any meds what so ever?
 
You are considering hgh in 5 months?
 
Seriously mate you are not ready for hgh, it will just be leave a big hole in your pocket.
  
 

how do you know what knowledge of it i have? i know all the varied dangers and side effects as well as the benefits which is enough for me to weigh up if i want to use it or not. just didnt know what a sub-q injection or dosage was thats all because if never looked into using it seriously. Iv given loads of intramuscular injections before and i have plenty of time before i start my next cycle and plenty of time to read up.

im on my first cycle now, but i plan to use the HGH with test next cycle to get a bit of extra gains.

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TomB

werdna

TomB


yeah well i aint going to inject it next week am i... doy

im thinking in around 4-5 months when i run my next cycle, hence why im asking questions now

the consideration of hgh boils down to its benefits isnt that what sparks interest in the first place? knowledge base is secondary. if you say otherwise your a liar the only reason anyone ever wanted to juice in the first place is because they knew it would make them big and strong first of all.

I don't know when your planning to use hgh because you haven't said but the fact remains you have next to zero knowledge, maybe it would be an idea to research a med and then decide its for you rather than the other way around.

Not having a dig mate but what dose hgh and whats a subq injection are very basic questions that you would have found the answers to in 5 mins of research.

Another point is you are currently on/ just completed your first cycle, correct?

You have never injected any meds what so ever?

You are considering hgh in 5 months?

Seriously mate you are not ready for hgh, it will just be leave a big hole in your pocket.
 

how do you know what knowledge of it i have? i know all the varied dangers and side effects as well as the benefits which is enough for me to weigh up if i want to use it or not. just didnt know what a sub-q injection or dosage was thats all because if never looked into using it seriously. Iv given loads of intramuscular injections before and i have plenty of time before i start my next cycle and plenty of time to read up.

im on my first cycle now, but i plan to use the HGH with test next cycle to get a bit of extra gains.

I think Werdna was a bit brunt in his assumptions but he's not far off mark tbh.

You do realize that you will need at least 600iu of HGH to get any sort of effect, and if you havent got any decent muscle mass already and/or are high bf then you will spend a lot of money and see nothing. HGH is best suited to get that carved look out of physique already in it's advanced stages of gaining muscle mass and with low body fat. The fat burning effect it has is really to get the last couple of % bf off to get below 10% etc.

I've been told this myself and I'll tell you, if you havent had a few years AAS then your money is much better spent on AAS.

Tom you asked how do i know what knowledge of hgh you have?
 
Would you say its a fair assumption given that you do not know how to administer hgh or in what doses that you know very little about hgh considering that these are the basics?
 
I apologise if you find my posts abrupt but im simply trying to point you in the right direction.
 
One turanabol cycle, less than 100% diet (by your own admission), Next to zero knowledge of hgh (my assumption based on you not knowing the basics) these things combined make hgh a costly mistake tbh.
 
You would achieve better results by sorting your diet 100% and maybe a standard test cycle for your next aas course than you ever will with hgh and at a much lesser cost.
 
Obviously this is all imo and its your body do with it as you wish.
 
 

to be honest i have been training for 5 years so i already have a good amount of muscle mass and strength. im not bothered about using it as a cutting agent as im bulking.

in my opinion if i have the money why not use it? its only going to help bulk by having a synergy effect with the test. i dont know why more people dont use it in the earlier cycles to be honest. for me im just looking for the best out of my gear almost like an icing on the cake, although its pricey im willing to splash out a little.

oh and my diet is spot on as well as my training. but anyway ill take what you have said into consideration, and im not going to actually inject with out the proper knowledge.

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TomB


to be honest i have been training for 5 years so i already have a good amount of muscle mass and strength. im not bothered about using it as a cutting agent as im bulking.

in my opinion if i have the money why not use it? its only going to help bulk by having a synergy effect with the test. i dont know why more people dont use it in the earlier cycles to be honest. for me im just looking for the best out of my gear almost like an icing on the cake, although its pricey im willing to splash out a little.

oh and my diet is spot on as well as my training. but anyway ill take what you have said into consideration, and im not going to actually inject with out the proper knowledge.

 
Because there is absolutely no need to for one...
 
Then there is the fact that you'd get far, far better gains with other meds early in your cycling career..
 
And lets not forget to huge cost implication too...
 
...And the fact you have to run it for 3mths+ minimum to acheive any sort of results..

JukeGigalo

TomB


to be honest i have been training for 5 years so i already have a good amount of muscle mass and strength. im not bothered about using it as a cutting agent as im bulking.

in my opinion if i have the money why not use it? its only going to help bulk by having a synergy effect with the test. i dont know why more people dont use it in the earlier cycles to be honest. for me im just looking for the best out of my gear almost like an icing on the cake, although its pricey im willing to splash out a little.

oh and my diet is spot on as well as my training. but anyway ill take what you have said into consideration, and im not going to actually inject with out the proper knowledge.

 
Because there is absolutely no need to for one...
 
Then there is the fact that you'd get far, far better gains with other meds early in your cycling career..
 
And lets not forget to huge cost implication too...
 
...And the fact you have to run it for 3mths+ minimum to acheive any sort of results..

ok what meds would you suggest?

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If i were you Tom i would simply do a test cycle of the usual 500mg for 10-12 weeks.
 
If you like you could always frontload or use dbol as a kick start.
 
Simple but effective.

the only reason i wanted to use the HGH was because i thought i would get more out of these first cycles if i added on top.

i have osme iranian test which is gtg for my next cycle, gonna do exactly that but with a tbol kickstart.

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I honestly wouldn't worry about the hgh.
 
You will make great gains with test/tbol.
 
 

Great advice from Werdna :)

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i always go sub-q. sub-q meaning subcutaneous injecting.....you can google search this if you need to know how to administor correctly. it basically means injecting under the skin rather than IM (intramuscular)

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