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HGH dosage 13 November 2009 11:50 (permalink)
what would you use as a good dose for HGH?

im looking into getting some for my next cycle, is using 8iu eod standard?
would using 4iu every day make any difference?

advice, im looking to make it worth my while, so what is a good does and how long do i need to run it for.

many thanks!
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    Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 12:36 (permalink)
    shouldnt make too much dif eod or ed.

    Start off with 2 iu ed for 2 or 3 weeks otherwise you'll possibly get high bp and sore fingers. Then you can go for 8iu eod or 4iu ed.

    I'm using 8iu eod, jabbed at 5:00am in the night during a trip to the bathroom where I can be sure no carbs or fats will blunt the gh.

    But there are loads of protocols. Best search.

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      Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 12:55 (permalink)
      so jabbing first thing in the morning would be ok as well? say 9am
      to be honest ill probably just jump onto doing 4iu every day from the start. my body responds pretty well to gear dont see why hgh should be any different.

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        Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 13:20 (permalink)
        I didn't know GH could be influenced by carbs! I usually take 4IU first thing in the morning, that might be 6AM followed by my oatmeal/protein breakfast 15 minutes later. By the way, I also tried 8IU. In hindsight I think it didn't make a real difference. My fingers went really numb! Also had carpal tunnel syndrome. Sides disappear when you stop GH. Currently I'm taking 4IU in the morning. GH makes you really lean, provided your diet etc is up to par :-)
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          Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 13:44 (permalink)
          GH will be blunted if followed by either Carbs or fats so injecting around a meal should be avoided...
          i have used GH for 5-6yrs and tried pretty much every conceivable way there is and no one way is better than any other....
          i prefer to use an EOD protocol when building muscle then ed when dieting...

          as for doses this is individual

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            Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 13:55 (permalink)
            hmm so how long after injecting can carbs be consumed?

            maybe it would be better injecting before bed, ie 3-4 hours after my last meal
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              Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 13:57 (permalink)
              TomB


              so jabbing first thing in the morning would be ok as well? say 9am
              to be honest ill probably just jump onto doing 4iu every day from the start. my body responds pretty well to gear dont see why hgh should be any different.


              make sure you keep the other 4iu (I'm assuming you have 8iu vials) in the fridge. tbh, the biggest reason I use 8iu eod is to avoid the hassle of storing the GH cold and possibly the degrading however short the storage period is. Just figure that mixing and jabbing the lot in a pulse fashion might be a bit better.



               
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                Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 14:00 (permalink)
                TomB


                hmm so how long after injecting can carbs be consumed?

                maybe it would be better injecting before bed, ie 3-4 hours after my last meal


                before bed is a protocol used by many. But I just wonder whether the tiny bit of natural GH the body produces in the 1st hours of deep sleep might be suppressed this way.

                Anyway, I hear that carbs 30 mins after  jabbing is ok.



                 
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                  Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 14:15 (permalink)
                  thanks rocker

                  so store all the vials in the fridge from the get go? how long do they last if they havnt been opened? and what about an opened vial?

                  shooting everyday seems like a bit of a pain in the ass anyway (literally) so i might go with the 8ius eod

                  i take it alternating in the glutes is the best way just like aas?

                  how long would 8ius of HGH stay in your system for then?
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                    Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 14:18 (permalink)
                    I inject hgh subq.
                     
                    Totally painless and no hassle to do the jabs daily.
                     
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                      Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 15:29 (permalink)
                      I've always been uncertain as to when to jab GH. According to the Jintropin package insert it depends on your age as well. Unless you are 55 or 60 it is recommended to take it in the morning as you have your natural GH excretion while you sleep. Older people have almost no GH anymore, so they can even take it before they go to bed to support the natural cycle. It was not mentioned that one has to be fasting before the injection. I'm a bit confused now. This morning I took it before my AM cardio as it was convenient, so breakfast was much later. Guess there are usually 10 - 15 minutes between the jab and my oats. You've made me doubt and think :-)
                      Suffice it to say that it needs to be chilled at all times. When reconstituted it shall be good for 2 days, so they say... I take 4IU per day. I've got to admit I used to take 8 as well as it was more convenient.
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                        Re:HGH dosage 13 November 2009 22:32 (permalink)
                        guys there is no huge difference in when you take it.....
                        leave 30min before eating although the longer you leave it the potential fatloss is higher.....

                        injecting GH at any time of the day will suppress the output of Natty GH so injecting at night before bed will make no difference....

                        jab 8iu's either twice a day (am/pm) or all at once before bed it is that simple guys overthinking will just give you stress which in turn will blunt GH output.....

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                          Re:HGH dosage 14 November 2009 11:04 (permalink)
                          so its best in the morning i guess,

                          i think im gonna go for 4ius a day seems more evenly spread out instead of one big spike.

                          also ill just get up 30 mins early, would it be ok to consume whey protein with it?
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                            Re:HGH dosage 14 November 2009 11:26 (permalink)
                            Shooting HGH every other day more accurately replicates the pulsile frequency of HGH, and thus gave better results for growth (height) deficient children, HGH pulsatility is necessary for proper function of the HGH receptor.(10) Dosing in the EOD nature reduces incidence of any sort of withdrawal problems associated with normal HGH use, including regression or retardation of growth after cessation of therapy.
                            Therefore, I feel very comfortable speculating that the use of HGH in this manner, which more closely simulates the natural secretion pattern of it, allows the HGH receptors and the rest of the body to more efficiently recover from it, and this will result in much more muscle growth over time (although height was examined in the previous study). My recommendations therefore are 2 shots per day of .028iu/kg of bodyweight, taken every other day, for a minimum of 3months, and preferably for 2-3x that long, and preferably with the other synergistic compounds we´ve just taken a look at.

                            taken from http://www.****/Human-Growth-Hormone.php

                            however it says the darker bars, which look smaller....
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                              Re:HGH dosage 14 November 2009 16:27 (permalink)
                              the problem with this text is it speculates.....it is not fact...
                              you are looking for an answer that does not exist......there is no one best time to use GH consistancy is the best thing to do....

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                                Re:HGH dosage 14 November 2009 19:01 (permalink)
                                where do you inject pscarb?

                                and what is post injection pain like?
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                                  Re:HGH dosage 14 November 2009 22:49 (permalink)
                                  i take it either IM or Sub-Q the pain is nothing as you use a insulin pin....

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                                    Re:HGH dosage 15 November 2009 03:40 (permalink)
                                    I shoot 2iu  AM prior fasted cv and 2iu PM  after my workout 30-40 mins after my meal.
                                     
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                                      Re:HGH dosage 15 November 2009 07:40 (permalink)
                                      I've tried 4iu ED and 8iu EOD and can see no difference.
                                      No pain whatsoever from the shot and thats either IM or Sub Q
                                       
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                                        Re:HGH dosage 15 November 2009 12:26 (permalink)
                                        sorry to sound ignorant guys, but what is sub-q? is it where you inject just under the skin and it forms a bubble on the surface? i had a tb test like this...

                                        or am i confusing it with something else

                                        intramuscular sounds like the easiest option, but what needles do i use and where do i get them?

                                        cheers guys
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