Buy a new xbox or second hand?

alright , do you think its worth buyin a second hand xbox 360 or would it be better to buy a new one with less risk of it breaking ,

or does anybody know any sites that do good deals on  360 package's  ?

If you only do what you know you can do- you never do very much.

Games doing 120GB 360 with FIFA 10, Forza 3 and Smackdown 10 fro 200quid. Limited time only though.

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Keep your eye on http://buyithere.co.uk/category/consoles/xbox_360/1 

They get them in regularly.  They are 12 month warrantied jobs + Microshaft warranty.

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careful of the chipped xboxs which are now banned from xbox live

i'd buy new... plenty of good deals about!!

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seen a deal on the TV for an Xbox with three games for £149....is that the Xbox arcade though?

DOnt think the arcade is avilable anymore....is it?

I owuld buy new, warrenty piece of mind, deals are flying about so you could pick one up with MW2, any a couple of other games, tho I would try and find a package that includes a years Gold Live membership.

What is the arcade exactly? Is it xbox without internet facility?

Arcade is an xbox with just a 256mb memory card.  No hard drive.  Still can be connected to web.

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I dont think its can be connected to teh web cause it doesnt have a storage device to connect and store firmware downloads.

Ah right. Ta.

Might try and pick one up. Not that big on online games, generally cos I get hammered at pretty much every online game I play.

Should be able to pick one up pretty cheap

not meaning to high jack your thread mate, but can 360s without hdmi output sockets still output 1080p? or can it just do 720p with the hd scart lead? cheers.

Umm if  you use compnent you should get 720p, actually both the 360 and the PS3 cannot output games at 1080p anyways, they can only upscale to this.

HD Scart lead? I had no idea such a thing existed. I would vbe very dubious of its HD claims

Yes they can, via VGA.  Not via component as component high def at 1080p  is not allowed under the HD DVD rules.

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ok thanks but im confused...erm basically mines pre 2007 and doesnt have an actual hdmi socket but i want to get a full hd tv. Is there a good website that will explain to me what to do exactly to get the most out of my 360. Thanks

si1990


ok thanks but im confused...erm basically mines pre 2007 and doesnt have an actual hdmi socket but i want to get a full hd tv. Is there a good website that will explain to me what to do exactly to get the most out of my 360. Thanks

Me too. I thought only a HDMI cable could output HD? If VGA and component can do it then whats the point in HDMI?

depends if you intend to flash it or not,the new drive cant be flashed yet

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si1990


ok thanks but im confused...erm basically mines pre 2007 and doesnt have an actual hdmi socket but i want to get a full hd tv. Is there a good website that will explain to me what to do exactly to get the most out of my 360. Thanks

I think Pap has missed what he was trying ot say cause that confused me too lol.

Does yoru Tv have component connections in (Red/ Gree/ Blue) sockets anwhere?

If so you can get the component connections, connect it that way and it will send the better signal, as said, the 360 can only really output at 720p anyways.

And HDMI was made to be an industry standard, tho they still fcuked that up abit thanks to Sony trying to be dicks, as usual, basically it can carry LOTS more info in terms of picture and sound. Cheaper to manufacture and place in all teh devices that woul duse them, and if you look at the connection its very very small really for all that it can do.

yes, and on a side note - all Xbox's can access Xbox Live, you are not restricted by what model you have, arcade / core / pro / elite etc..

Xbox Live is a service that your Xbox connects to - whether you have a 0GB HDD, or a 120GB hdd, it will still work, it is connected via ethernet cable, or wireless connection

Memory / storage / hdd capacity or space is not an issue

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si1990


ok thanks but im confused...erm basically mines pre 2007 and doesnt have an actual hdmi socket but i want to get a full hd tv. Is there a good website that will explain to me what to do exactly to get the most out of my 360. Thanks

I think Pap has missed what he was trying ot say cause that confused me too lol.

Does yoru Tv have component connections in (Red/ Gree/ Blue) sockets anwhere?

If so you can get the component connections, connect it that way and it will send the better signal, as said, the 360 can only really output at 720p anyways.

And HDMI was made to be an industry standard, tho they still fcuked that up abit thanks to Sony trying to be dicks, as usual, basically it can carry LOTS more info in terms of picture and sound. Cheaper to manufacture and place in all teh devices that woul duse them, and if you look at the connection its very very small really for all that it can do.

Erm, I'll call you on that one. Component 1080p for games that are coded to run native at 1080p is fine. This was sorted with a firmware change ages ago IIRC. Also any 1080p files you have will play at that.

It's the only reason that I was happy to buy the old arcade unit that didn't have an HDMI output.

AV forums backs up (quickest FAQ I could find):

Component:

* HD DVD - 1080i resolution maximum, limited by AACS
* DVD - Standard progressive 576p maximum, limited by CSS
* Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p and native 1080p games

http://www.avforums.com...-a.html#postmenu_1889577

As for original question, I'd buy new, they cost frig all at the minute.

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ok...and to go back to the original question i'd go new aswell there are some good deals knocking about!
So basically because my 360 has no hdmi socket would it be best to just go for a 720p tv and use the red/green/blue components? thanks.

As per my post 360's DO output 1080p over component. Both for games that have 1080p in them, and also for any media that you have in 1080p format.

This is how mine is set up and it works a treat. If you want a TV over 37 inches, and you're not sat miles away, go for 1080p. Smaller set, limited point unless you've got it on your lap.

Yes, use component.

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thanks for the info , saw a deal before in gamestation xbox 360 elite with mw2 and gears of war 2 for £199 , mite get that one , i was planning on geting it flashed but with the new thing they have got to ban any xbox that is flashed without going online with a copied disc has put me off so i might get a preowned 360 and flash it so i can do both  one flashed and one for online

If you only do what you know you can do- you never do very much.

That's a very good price IMO

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That's a very good price IMO

yeah it is but ive just seen another deal in argos 160 for a normal 360 but with a extra pad and 3 games included , now im not sure what one to get lol

If you only do what you know you can do- you never do very much.

I've only got a 20gig HD in mine and it sucks. I'd far rather have the extra space of the 120 - dump as many games as you can on there and you get shot of nasty drive noise, and vastly reduce load times. The HDDs aren't cheap, and I wouldn't touch one off ebay in a month of sundays as there's a ood chance it's banned.

Keep an eye out on ebay for someone selling and MC2 set like this - http://shop.ebay.co.uk/...sacat=See-All-Categories - the wheel is average, but you get a proper wireless pad and a decent remote with it.

I just sold my wheel on after buying the set, net cost for controller & remote £8

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go to www.360bargains.co.uk they always have the current cheapest offers

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go to www.360bargains.co.uk they always have the current cheapest offers

xbox 360 Super elite  250gb hard drive for £239    not bad that  , didnt even know there was a super elite

If you only do what you know you can do- you never do very much.

Me either..!

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ok cleared alot up, thanks guys...sorry for butting in on your thread though lol.

si1990


ok cleared alot up, thanks guys...sorry for butting in on your thread though lol.

no problem mate , it was to do with 360 so saved opening a new topic

If you only do what you know you can do- you never do very much.

Much better to but a new 360, especially since all new Elites seem to be coming with the Jasper chipset in.
The only reason I had not bought one earlier was down to the overheating problem, but Jasper now seems to be the cure.  Just upgraded from an original xbox to a new 360 Elite, got it from play.com with 4 games for £230.

You are in the future. Things are very "shiny" here.

what is the jasper chipset mate?

If you only do what you know you can do- you never do very much.

The Jasper chipset is the name of the CPU/GPU chipset in the new versions of the 360.
You can tell what chipset is in your 360 by looking at the label next to the power socket. On the label it says 12V DC followed by a current rating.
The 1st 360`s had a current rating of I think 16.2 A, this chipset was the Xenon.
The 2nd generation had a current rating of around 14.2 A, this chipset was the Falcon.
The 3rd and current generation has a rating of 12.1 A, and this is the Jasper chipset.
The new chips don`t draw as much power and therefore do not get as hot as previous models. 
Therefore the power brick has a lower output so new power bricks will not power older 360`s.
This is the cure for RROD. 

You are in the future. Things are very "shiny" here.

Tony Barnes

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si1990


ok thanks but im confused...erm basically mines pre 2007 and doesnt have an actual hdmi socket but i want to get a full hd tv. Is there a good website that will explain to me what to do exactly to get the most out of my 360. Thanks

I think Pap has missed what he was trying ot say cause that confused me too lol.

Does yoru Tv have component connections in (Red/ Gree/ Blue) sockets anwhere?

If so you can get the component connections, connect it that way and it will send the better signal, as said, the 360 can only really output at 720p anyways.

And HDMI was made to be an industry standard, tho they still fcuked that up abit thanks to Sony trying to be dicks, as usual, basically it can carry LOTS more info in terms of picture and sound. Cheaper to manufacture and place in all teh devices that woul duse them, and if you look at the connection its very very small really for all that it can do.

Erm, I'll call you on that one. Component 1080p for games that are coded to run native at 1080p is fine. This was sorted with a firmware change ages ago IIRC. Also any 1080p files you have will play at that.

It's the only reason that I was happy to buy the old arcade unit that didn't have an HDMI output.

AV forums backs up (quickest FAQ I could find):

Component:

* HD DVD - 1080i resolution maximum, limited by AACS
* DVD - Standard progressive 576p maximum, limited by CSS
* Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p and native 1080p games

http://www.avforums.com...-a.html#postmenu_1889577

As for original question, I'd buy new, they cost frig all at the minute.

Yes it can do it, but no big game will be released this way with DVD9 Discs for the 360 (not eneough space, they tried this little ploy with Hal3 and it got slammed, then it was all leaked out about how they where doing it., no game will be released with 1080p native, all the games will be 720p, with the 360 trying to upscale.

Sorry jsut to add, to this day these are the only natie 1080p games.

 Wolf of the Battlefield Commando 3 [Xbox Live Arcade]
Feeding Frenzy 2 [Xbox Live Arcade]
Portal [Xbox Live Arcade]
Boogie Bunnies [Xbox Live Arcade]
Street Home Court
 Virtual Tennis 3

Two of them only being actual shop relases.

Honeslty, you have to be anally retentive to spot the difference on a good setup, and you better have a 42"+ screen plus at the right distence, otherwise this is all a waste of time lol.

Hmmmmmmmm, will have to look more into this. As it stands it says 1080p on the back of boxes, if it's not rendered at that then they surely must fall fowl of trade description

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  I don't know much about X-box's but WRT the question "New or Used" I's say NEW 
      Firstly there is the warranty aspect  ,  and secondly I have heard loads of people say things like "Yeah , I sold my Xbox and bought a new one because it started doing this and that....."   
        Wouldn't want to end up with a lemon !

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