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 Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals?


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Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 15 November 2009 22:18 (permalink)
First cycle lasted 6 weeks and I ran 2ml DECA per week and 40mg Anabol daily.

By week 4 I was getting major anxiety attacks which made work hard, gains were 1st...

Was gonna run a longer cycle of just DECA (12 weeks) cause Iam sure the anabol dosage was to blame for the anxiety?

 
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    Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 07:57 (permalink)
    you say 2ml... 2ml of what concentration?
    100mg/ml
    200mg/ml
    etc

    40mg ED = 280mg test a week...

    reminds me of the old cycles (deca/dbol) you used to see in the 60's/70's.

    the anabol will help the reduced androgenicity effect (loss of libido) to some level but i would rather have testosterone from injectables but thats me


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      Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 08:55 (permalink)
      200mg/ml
       
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        Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 09:03 (permalink)
        i wouldnt run deca at that low dose without any orals or injectable test.

        you'll be shut down and you'll see your libido crash IME without some test in there to keep you ticking along.

        if you want to run a low dose injectable, why not run on a single 250mg/wk of test? essentially a TRT dose and easy to recover from that a 19-nor that will prove harder to recover from.
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          Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 09:16 (permalink)
          So 250mg/wk of test on its own, nothing else?

          Apologies - What is TRT?

          Cheers.


           
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            Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 09:26 (permalink)
            Its dependant on what you want to do

            i'd rather run 250mg test a week than 200mg of deca

            if i was you i'd run 500mg of test a week and run it for 10-12 weeks for a decent cycle.

            all down to what you want from the cycle.

            IMO, to warrant the PCT and recovery required (time is a valuable commodity) i would run a cycle that would offer the best gains from the lowest dose so 500mg suits that.

            if you dont want to run that high yet then stick with 250mg of test, add in 40mg of orals if you want to kick start the cycle.

            trt = testosterone replacement therapy... 250mg a week (or every 7-10 days) is what people run with naturally low levels of testosterone
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              Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 10:40 (permalink)
              deca on its own?

              Ummm deca dick anyone??

              Try 500mg test 400mg Deca

              Or as bulk suested above.

              250mg test 200 deca as long a s diet is good s

               
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                Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 11:41 (permalink)
                stick to simple test cycle imo, 250mg or 500mgs of test pw, no need to add dec in tbh.

                 


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                  Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 11:55 (permalink)
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                  deca on its own?

                  Ummm deca dick anyone??

                  Try 500mg test 400mg Deca for a second cycle i think this is a bit of an over kill!!!

                  Or as bulk suested above.

                  250mg test 200 deca as long a s diet is good s

                   
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                    Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 13:00 (permalink)
                    deca just 6weeks?
                     
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                      Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 13:09 (permalink)
                      I ran 600mg of NPP for 8 weeks. Didn't run any test with it. I had no problems what so ever during the cycle although I felt really sh1t for weeks when I come off. To the extent that I was hardly even training which meant I lost some gains


                       
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                        Re:Anything wrong with running just a DECA cycle without orals? 16 November 2009 14:34 (permalink)
                        I ran a deca only cycle for 8 weeks. Toward the end, I felt tired all the time, due to lack of androgens. As soon as I added back the testo, life got good again. In other words, for anything but a short cycle (or cycle portion) for a specific purpose, you should use androgens and anabolics together, IMO. I believe it's healthier for your body, as well.
                         
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