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Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 08:32 (permalink)
 
Oh dear.....
 
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1322/marquez_hatton_in_talks/
 
Juan Manuel Marquez and Ricky Hatton have begun talks to fight in Manchester, England, promoter Richard Schaefer said.

No date has been discussed.

“That’s one of things we have to discuss,” Schaefer said. “I’m going to be talking to the Hattons. And Marquez wants to do it. We’ll see if we can get it done.”

Marquez is coming off a one-sided decision loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in September, for which he went up two weight classes.

Hatton’s last fight was a one-punch, second-round knockout loss against Manny Pacquiao in May, after which the popular Briton hinted at retirement.

Marquez and Hatton would likely meet at 140 pounds.
 
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    Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 08:55 (permalink)
    Hatton is going to get ruined.
     
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      Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 09:27 (permalink)
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      Hatton is going to get ruined.


      x 2.

      Same result at the Paquiao fight.....KO





       
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        Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 09:58 (permalink)
        Make that 3 times!
         
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          Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 14:30 (permalink)
          x 4 !

          Who will be training Hatton now?

          Must be easier ways to get a paid.
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            Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 14:43 (permalink)
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            Who will be training Hatton now?


            His two mates, Mr Dom and Mr Perrignon...zzzzzzz....
             
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              Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 15:13 (permalink)
              X5, a natural super featherweight in Marquez will KO Hatton in 6 rounds. I honestly think Naz could come out of retirement, come down from 180lbs of flab to 140lbs and destroy Hatton. The guy has no defense or head movement, hitting Hatton is as easy as hitting a punch bag.

              Doesnt anyone think that Hatton is putting himself in serious danger by carrying on though? He must have close to £50 million in the bank why continue
               
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                Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 17:23 (permalink)
                x6 hatton is not the figter he was sadly

                 
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                  Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 17:48 (permalink)
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                  x6 hatton is not the figter he was sadly


                  Is this the reason why so many people doubt him, or do people think he was overrated all along?

                   
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                    Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 18:07 (permalink)
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                    x6 hatton is not the figter he was sadly


                    Is this the reason why so many people doubt him, or do people think he was overrated all along?


                    Def overrated all along.
                     
                     
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                      Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 18:18 (permalink)
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                      x6 hatton is not the figter he was sadly


                      Is this the reason why so many people doubt him, or do people think he was overrated all along?


                      Def overrated all along.
                       


                      But do you accept that before the Mayweather fight he was (psychologically at least) a far more capable fighter than he is today?

                      I can't decide personally. I really rated him and I didn't stop rating him after the mayweather fight. It wasn't until he fought Lazcano/Malignaggi/Pacman that I started to see his limitations.

                      Perhaps those limitations were always there? Or perhaps the Mayweather fight damaged him psychologically to such an extent that he was never the same fighter he was previously?

                      Getting beaten is perfectly ok in my opinion. It's not being able to come back from defeat that I find hard to admire. Hatton never really came back.

                       
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                        Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 18:28 (permalink)
                        Well, today he is pretty much done at world level so he was far more capable pre-Mayweather. Even then he was limited but the lack of quality in the 140 division let those limitations go unchecked. He never fought a genuine banger and when he did he was bumrushed inside 2 rounds.

                        This allowed the casual fan to massively overrate him up to the point of suggesting he would hammer Mayweather.
                         
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                          Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 18:50 (permalink)
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                          x6 hatton is not the figter he was sadly


                          Is this the reason why so many people doubt him, or do people think he was overrated all along?


                          Def overrated all along.
                           


                          I would disagree with that, Hatton was a great fighter and only came unstuck against the pound for pound best in 47 fights.
                           
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                            Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 19:10 (permalink)
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                            I would disagree with that, Hatton was a great fighter and only came unstuck against the pound for pound best in 47 fights.



                            Historical post war fighters who would have beaten a prime Hatton.

                            Pernell Whitaker
                            Ken Buchanan
                            Oscar De La Hoya
                            Hector Camacho
                            JC Chavez
                            Frankie Randall
                            Shane Mosley
                            Ike Quartey
                            Kostya Tszyu
                            Meldrick Taylor
                            Felix Trinidad
                            Buddy McGirt

                            and thats just off the top of my head, there will be plenty more.

                            Hatton was very good, but his iconic status was due to the british media, the fans and good matchmaking.
                             
                            EDIT because i do not want to come across as a Hatton basher. I think he was a very good fighter indeed, but just not legendary.



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                              Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 19:27 (permalink)
                              Well Tszyu's in that list and he beat him in '05 but I agree with what you're saying. He's definitely not the best theres been but I still rate him as a fighter.

                              What he lacked in skill he made up in power and aggression but against the likes of Mayweather, Pacquiao etc just isn't enough.

                              What was disappointing about the Pacquiao fight was all the talk of the changes he'd made which never materialised.
                               
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                                Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 19:31 (permalink)
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                                Well Tszyu's in that list and he beat him in '05



                                Yes i know that, but you have to admit Tszyu was sliding when they met?

                                2001 / 2002 Tszyu different story.





                                 
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                                  Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 19:57 (permalink)
                                  Yeah I guess he was.
                                   
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                                    Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 21:20 (permalink)
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                                    x6 hatton is not the figter he was sadly


                                    Is this the reason why so many people doubt him, or do people think he was overrated all along?

                                    Naturally he was always somewhat over-rated by British fans but the main point is that his chin seems to have gone which makes his style of fighting untenable. Hatton always fought with his face a bit which is why his peak was relatively short IMO

                                    So I would say it's the fact that he's not the fighter he once was

                                    The fact that Hatton was so popular in Britain tends to polarise some people against him to the extent that you have some people under-playing his talent whilst others over-play it!


                                     
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                                      Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 21:45 (permalink)
                                      SLightly OT but did anyone see Hatton on the WWE programme. I know he balloons in weight when  he isnt training but fook me theres no way he could get back from that shape and win.
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                                        Re:Hatton v Marquez in talks..... 17 November 2009 21:56 (permalink)
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