acne

i have jus come off a 10 week test-e course last couple of weeks and during pct got really bad acne and now have a few scars am thinking of of accutane as i have tried nearly evry cream going if i  go to my doctor will he be able to tell by the spots if they are steroid spots as i cannot source and accutane! so would have to go via the docs?

also i have read in a couple of forums trhat pproviron could help is this true as i have loads of this to hand?

You will have a hard job getting accutane off your GP. Accutane is a powerful and expensive drug which is only used by doctors as a last resort. Your doctor will try and fob you off with antibiotic cream or tablets.

Before any GP will issue accutane you have to have blood tests to check your liver you will also start off with a very low dose then they will do more blood tests and up the dose if need be.

To be honest unless your acne is very very severe you wont get accutane , unless you have a very understanding GP. This is why most guys buy it themselves.

Oh and Proviron will do bugger all for acne. Aromasin is a AI which stops estrogen which in turn stops acne try this at either 12.5 mg or 25 mg a day.

My body is like a Walking Chemical Factory.

Angel fan is right your gp will recommend oral or topical antibiotics first to settle it down. Accutane will be a last resort.

Personally i would try sunbeds one or twice a week for 6mins that always helps with mine. And a benzoyl peroside cream ie quinoderm or the over counter oxy 5/10 stuff

A good combination commonly pescribed is

tetracycline- Oral antibiotics
Isotrex- topical gel
Benzyl peroxide- Bleaching cream

In combination this works really well to reduce acne and I've had used it myself. Accutane has been linked to depression amongst other sides.
I would go for the milder option before going down the accutane route.

Pescribed meds are IME much better than the off the shelf and they are free. Here in Wales anyway.

The pain may come over you, but don't let it overcome you.

Personally i would try over counter stuff and sunbeds before going down route griff recommended

Ive heard a few people saying they get flare ups post cycle... any reason why this is? Is it something to do with estrogen rebound?

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Yes you get flair ups post cycle due to a inbalance in your hormones and the fact your estrogen is high. This is why Aromasin helps because it kills estrogen.

My body is like a Walking Chemical Factory.

Some over the counter stuff is OK, I think "OXY" specialise in male antiacne. I wouldnt recommend sunbeds to anyone mind.

The pain may come over you, but don't let it overcome you.

Sunbeds are fine providing you dont go daft with them ie 9mins 3-4 times a week

6mins every week to ten days is fine

if it were me, I would forget OTC treatment, forget the doctors and source accutane yourself....there are plenty of places to get it and IME the horror stories of all the potential sides are just that...stories!

It can work out pricey self medicating but the stuff works!

Im not sure. I had pretty bad side effects from it! For a whole feckin year!

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I have split bleeding lips, bleeding nostrils, sore, dry skin and it's made my eczema worse due to drying my skin but it's all worth it

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Sunbeds are fine providing you dont go daft with them ie 9mins 3-4 times a week

6mins every week to ten days is fine

The vote is still out on sunbeds, one biiiiig social experiment going on as we speak.

The pain may come over you, but don't let it overcome you.

Aint gunna argue with you re sunbeds, ask most of the blokes on here and the consensus will be in moderation they will help with acne probs linked with a/s in moderation

Cool, I was refering to the recent classification of sunbeds as "human carcinogen" hence why I wouldn't recommend them.

The pain may come over you, but don't let it overcome you.

i do agree with you to an extent

re sunbeds thing

is a joke an 15 year old can walk into a hairdressers/gym and use a tanning bed. Alot are highly unregulated and a joke. But however there are good ones in existence.

One i use restricts you to so many sessions based on skin type, if fair skins you are restricted to milder strength sunbeds ie not the 250-300watt ones. And is strictly no under 18's. You are also not allowed to buy tokens more than 6mins worth.

But however problem we have in this country is not all sunbed establishments are the same.


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only time i use them are post cycle as during me pct and week or two after me hormones go nuts and i get spots on me back on neck which aint nice.

Unfortunatley there are no good or bad, they all put you at risk to a varying degree.

The unregulated thing is a good point tho.

The pain may come over you, but don't let it overcome you.

aye true i often wonder if is doing me any damage but dont go daft with em

Don't for a second even dream you will get a prescription for Accutane, unless you're going to ply it from your doctor's cold lifeless fingers. I was on a course of Accutane 10 years ago, and decided to end it halfway through, because I thought I didn't really need it (the first month had gone me great already) and wasn't worth any possible risks, since I was only 17 and maybe my acne would get better with age. Big mistake!

There's been so much controversy with side effects and such since that they guard it with their lives. It literally took me until the point of my chest being horribly scarred for life (anything less wasn't deemed serious enough) before I could get THE VERY SAME DOCTOR to prescribe me another course!

It's very harsh on the liver though, so if you've done orals on your cycle, and are going to source the Accutane yourself then definitely do some liver protection stuff like Milk Thistle, NAC and whatever the other liver protection supps people use thesedays.

Personally though, I'd say save your money on the Accutane, you could put that towards your next cycle instead. The GP can't give you anything anywhere near as effective as Accutane (think I must have tried them all).

The only thing I've ever found that was truly effective for acne though is high dose Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid). I can't remember how much I used to take, I think it was 10g or 12g powder in water every day, its RANK though! But it was literally just as effective as Accutane, Ideally though you want to take it in advance but it will probably be effective for you still.

You should also try a good quality fish  oil (no cheap ****, and not cod liver oil) at 30-45ml a day and between those two I think that'll sort you out personally.

Re the sunbeds....they will do fcuk all for the boils that are under construction below the skin's surface, they will just keep coming up!
They will help dry the surface spots up though and will tan your skin too so that the spots/bolis and your skin, blend in better.

Accutane is the only thing that IMO will work...fcuk the side effects