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hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 11:24:32   
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hey all,
I have been working out since the January the 26 of this year. I got brave enough to post my pics because i am getting pretty desperate with my progress. I only lost a couple of pounds weight wise, but not sure how much fat did i lose, thats if i lost any.. please let me know what do you think and all advices are welcomed. my main concern is to get rid of that belly and my chest. but in the mean time i want to do that lifting weight with a 2 days cardio.. i workout at home..
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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 11:27:59   
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I can deffo see an improvement mate!! Your waist has trimmed down! Your arms look bigger! Your chest looks tighter!! Keep going with your diet and training mate and you'l deffo get the results you want!!! Well done

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 11:31:26   
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cheerz cold steel, you've given me hope mate.

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 11:35:24   
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Making very good progress mate!!!! Well done.

Could you post up your diet and training details?

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 11:42:07   
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Cheerz Bazil,
there you go...

i need to drop about 2 st of body fat! and my diet is as follow
7.30 am 2 poached eggs or half a tub of Ricotta cheese with 2 slices of whole meal
10.00 am 300 ml smoothie 30gm Whey with 150 ml skimmed milk, handfull of rasberries,some nuts, and a small tub of fat free yougert.
12.00 pm small snack.. usually a fruit or some almonds
1.00 pm 2 slices of brown bread with 2 slices of turkey or beef, and a slice of cheese
4.00 pm snack usually a fruit or some almonds
6.00 pm another 300 ml smoothie 30gm Whey with 150 ml skimmed milk, handfull of rasberries, a small tub of fat free yougert.
8.00 pm 60 gm brown rice, and sirloin (10 oz) or a half a chicken :) small veg

I workout at home.. no heavy squats as dropping heavy weight upstairs could get me into more trouble with the mrs. for dammaging the ceiling
Monday

Flat Bench Press - 8-10 Reps x3
Incline Dumbbell Press - 8-10 Reps x3
Flat Flyes - 8-10 Reps x2
Close-grip Bench Press - 8-10 Reps x3
Skull Crushers - 8-10 Reps x2

Wednesday
Bent Over Barbell Rows - 8-10 Reps x3
Dumbbell Rows - 8-10 Reps x2
Deadlifts - 8-10 Reps x3
Barbell Curls - 8-10 Reps x3
Hammer Curls - 8-10 Reps x2

Friday
Military Press - 8-10 Reps x3
Upright Rows - 8-10 Reps x3
Lateral Raises - 8-10 Reps x2
Lunges - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg curls - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg Extensions - 8-10 Reps x3


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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 13:14:13   
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you are taking shape nicely mate. What are your before and after stats?

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 13:38:13   
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Hey Windymill, thanks for the reply.. well, I never majored BF but weight wise, i started at 18 and half stones late last year.. went under the Atkins diet for a couple of month came down to 15 st. but only looked like a smaller fat person. when i started that workout plan on January 26th of this year i was exactly 16 and half stones. weight today is 15 st 10 pounds.. I am also 6 ft tall. I will add 3 .. 45 mins cardio sessions soon. currently on the non lifting days i do shaddow boxing and take the dog for longer fast walks..

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 15:14:26   
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Excellent mate, keep it up.

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 15:47:44   
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Most definitely an improvement mate.
Fat lost around the waist, and muscle gained around shoulders/chest.

Would be useful to see a picture of your upper back also.

Since your goal is fat loss, incrase your protein and decrease your carbs(not that your diet was bad to start with!)

You can give yourself 1500 cals per day.
you must get 200gm protein from that = 800 cals from protein
you must get the other 700 cals from comlpex carb sources (oatmeal, brown rice)

Aim to do cardio 6 days per week for 30mins minimum, keeping your Heart Rate at 130bpm(3 of these in the morning before work and then do your weights after work, and other 3 days cardio only with 1 day off totally).

Also some of your rep ranges are unusual, you need less reps and more weight/sets on compound exercises, try to add muscle.

Would also recommend you take a multivitamin, vitamin C and B complex especially.

The more cardio you do, the less time you will spend losing fat. If your prepared to do cardio in the morning before work and again in the evening when you come home, fat will melt off you.

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7.30 am 2 poached eggs, oatmeal (cook in microwave with no sugar) 14gm protein
10.00 am 1 serving whey with water/skim milk 20gm protein
12.00 pm 1 serving whey with water/skim milk 20gm protein
1.00 pm 1 can tuna with 1 tablespoon low fat mayo and 1 tablespoon sweetcorn + veg 35gm protein (90gm protein)
4.00 pm 1 serving whey with water/skim milk 20gm protein
6.00 pm 30 gm brown rice, 1 chicken breast + 1 cup of Jasmine Green Tea
8.00 pm 30 gm brown rice & soy sauce(low sodium), 2 chicken breasts, lots of boiled veg + 1 cup of Jasmine Green Tea

Hard to change the end of your diet cause I don't know what time you workout.


I workout at home.. no heavy squats as dropping heavy weight upstairs could get me into more trouble with the mrs. for dammaging the ceiling
Monday

Flat Bench Press - 6 Reps x4 (heavy weight)
Incline Dumbbell Press - 8-10 Reps x4
Flat Flyes - 6 Reps x3
Close-grip Bench Press - 6 Reps x4
Skull Crushers - 8-10 Reps x3

Wednesday
Deadlifts - 4 Reps x5 (need heavy weight for this mate - but control it so you don't break the ceiling)
Bent Over Barbell Rows - 8 Reps x3 + 1 set of 12 reps
Dumbbell Rows - 6 Reps x2 + 12 reps x 2
Barbell Curls - 6 Reps x2 + 10 reps x 2
Alternate DB Curls - 3 sets of 10

Friday
Military Press - 8-10 Reps x5
Upright Rows - 8-10 Reps x4
Lateral Raises - 8-10 Reps x4
Lunges - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg curls - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg Extensions - 8-10 Reps x3
(you are missing out big time with no squats)


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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - Apr. 6 2006 17:15:11   
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Cheerz Mate.. I really like the changes you've done to the Routine below and will change to it once i get back from my holidays "sunny Egypt" I usualy starts my workouts at around 7 pm.. I will deffo do as you advised with early cardios in the AM before work. I was thinking that i was getting good carbs from them deadly shakes that i mastered recently also your sample daily diet is like a treat to me! I forgot to mention that i take a multivitamin 'Centrum' my only fear from too much cardios is the loss of muscle mass as they are hard enough to get I do a desk job 9-5
there is a pic of upper back
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/keeperdog/week2-3.jpg
thanks again, dude for the advice
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Most definitely an improvement mate.
Fat lost around the waist, and muscle gained around shoulders/chest.

Would be useful to see a picture of your upper back also.

Since your goal is fat loss, incrase your protein and decrease your carbs(not that your diet was bad to start with!)

You can give yourself 1500 cals per day.
you must get 200gm protein from that = 800 cals from protein
you must get the other 700 cals from comlpex carb sources (oatmeal, brown rice)

Aim to do cardio 6 days per week for 30mins minimum, keeping your Heart Rate at 130bpm(3 of these in the morning before work and then do your weights after work, and other 3 days cardio only with 1 day off totally).

Also some of your rep ranges are unusual, you need less reps and more weight/sets on compound exercises, try to add muscle.

Would also recommend you take a multivitamin, vitamin C and B complex especially.

The more cardio you do, the less time you will spend losing fat. If your prepared to do cardio in the morning before work and again in the evening when you come home, fat will melt off you.

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7.30 am 2 poached eggs, oatmeal (cook in microwave with no sugar) 14gm protein
10.00 am 1 serving whey with water/skim milk 20gm protein
12.00 pm 1 serving whey with water/skim milk 20gm protein
1.00 pm 1 can tuna with 1 tablespoon low fat mayo and 1 tablespoon sweetcorn + veg 35gm protein (90gm protein)
4.00 pm 1 serving whey with water/skim milk 20gm protein
6.00 pm 30 gm brown rice, 1 chicken breast + 1 cup of Jasmine Green Tea
8.00 pm 30 gm brown rice & soy sauce(low sodium), 2 chicken breasts, lots of boiled veg + 1 cup of Jasmine Green Tea

Hard to change the end of your diet cause I don't know what time you workout.


I workout at home.. no heavy squats as dropping heavy weight upstairs could get me into more trouble with the mrs. for dammaging the ceiling
Monday

Flat Bench Press - 6 Reps x4 (heavy weight)
Incline Dumbbell Press - 8-10 Reps x4
Flat Flyes - 6 Reps x3
Close-grip Bench Press - 6 Reps x4
Skull Crushers - 8-10 Reps x3

Wednesday
Deadlifts - 4 Reps x5 (need heavy weight for this mate - but control it so you don't break the ceiling)
Bent Over Barbell Rows - 8 Reps x3 + 1 set of 12 reps
Dumbbell Rows - 6 Reps x2 + 12 reps x 2
Barbell Curls - 6 Reps x2 + 10 reps x 2
Alternate DB Curls - 3 sets of 10

Friday
Military Press - 8-10 Reps x5
Upright Rows - 8-10 Reps x4
Lateral Raises - 8-10 Reps x4
Lunges - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg curls - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg Extensions - 8-10 Reps x3
(you are missing out big time with no squats)




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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 9 2006 11:57:55   
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tbh it doesn't look like gyno to me - i would say that it's just fat and as yoru body fat% reduces the "breasts" will gradually reduce along with everything else.

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 9 2006 12:05:50   
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yes as above - your doing really well mate, all you godda do is keep on goin !!!

its a long hard road but its worth it and your goin the right way !!

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 9 2006 12:17:39   
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100% improvement, all i could think about was fat loss too then when i had lost all my fat the muscle sydrome kicks in - you 'weight' and see

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 9 2006 16:54:32   
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re your email -i replyed yesterday matey

i think it's likely just fat tbh but you're sheading fat pretty quickly and obviously doing well on your diet and cardio. keep this up and you should see a noticable reduction in your "breasts"

if however when you get a little further cut up you still notice the breast shape, nolvadex would be an option for getting rid of the gyno - but i really honestly dont think this is necessary at the moment.

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 9 2006 17:42:42   
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cheerz guys, thanks for all the encourgments.. will be posting new pics soon.. i think i am just at that stage where the leaner you look the more you hate them other fatty bits as they hang out more from the muscles.. will also be posting my new routine, diet and stats..
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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 13 2006 14:28:31   
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alright folks,
started training again two weeks ago as i got really sick while was on my holidays and was hit with vertigo that stayed with me for almost a week
now, i took Dan Nukem's advice but for the early morning training and my program now is as follow:
Monday
Flat Bench Press - 6 Reps x4 (heavy weight)
Incline Dumbbell Press - 8-10 Reps x4
Flat Flyes - 6 Reps x3
Close-grip Bench Press - 6 Reps x4
Skull Crushers - 8-10 Reps x3
Tuesday:
60 mins cardio
Wednesday
Deadlifts - 4 Reps x5 (need heavy weight for this mate - but control it so you don't break the ceiling)
Bent Over Barbell Rows - 8 Reps x3 + 1 set of 12 reps
Dumbbell Rows - 6 Reps x2 + 12 reps x 2
Barbell Curls - 6 Reps x2 + 10 reps x 2
Alternate DB Curls - 3 sets of 10
Thursday:
60 mins Cardio

Friday
Military Press - 8-10 Reps x5
Upright Rows - 8-10 Reps x4
Lateral Raises - 8-10 Reps x4
squats - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg curls - 8-10 Reps x3
Leg Extensions - 8-10 Reps x3

Saturday:
60 mins cardio

my diet is a bit missed up as I am kindda stuck between two things here.. should i take less calorie intake 1500 kals a day? or go for more and up my cardios.. either way i am eating with a bit of sence now and below is a sample of what i pretty much eat every day...
7.30 am
1 serving whey 22 grams protien 130 kals
1 cup cooked poridge (not sure how much in that but there is about 6 grams of protein in it)
10.00 pm
whey shake 22 grams protien 130 kals
12.00
an apple
1.00 pm tin of tuna with 30 grams brown rice, half tomato, 5 olives, and a banana or an apple
3.00 pm
some nuts or half a tub of low fat cottage cheese (14 gm protien)
5.00 pm
half a chicken fillet with half wholemeal pitta, some lettuce, or a tin of Sardines.
6.pm
Whey shake 22 grams protien 130 kals
6.15 pm
training
8.00 pm dinner
6 oz sirloin steak(no fat)
1 cup of brocoli
10.00 pm
whey shake, or half a tub of fat free cottage cheese
I started on CEE creatine (SNS Creatine E2) just 2 days ago, also take EFA omega3 supplement, and prolab whey powder.

two weeks doing this now and no actual weight loss, but will not lose faith for now and will keep up the work.. might start going for morning cardios before work but my gym opens at 10 am..
peace all

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 13 2006 18:37:48   
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Right mate, this is what I think. 1500 cals is just too low! You could easy do it on 2000 cals. Just use the high protein, low carbs & medium fats. Think about it, your body probably is using around 2000cals a day just at rest, then you got all other activites eating into your cals. A hour weight training can easy do 500 cals. brisk walking for an 30mins - 250-300 cals.

So if your only taking in 1500 cals and your doing weights & cardio, there is 800cals right there. So thats 1500 - 800 cals that only gives your body 700cals to live on Your body is starving!

Starving is not the way to loose fat. Its gunna take a while to loose 2st of "FAT" not muscle and starving is not the way.

I would UP the food intake and increase your cardio.

Like this

7.30 am
1 serving whey 22 grams protien 130 kals
30 mins SS cardio (brisk walking, stepper, bike ect, nothing to hard)
(after cardio)....1/2 cup oats with water. 3 egg whites 1 yellow (you can scramble this or make an omlette with low cal spray)
10.00 pm
whey shake 22 grams protien 130 kals (can you have a solid meal here instead? Like a chicken salad? Mixed salad with 120g of chicken?)

1.00 pm tin of tuna with 30 grams brown rice, half tomato, 5 olives & apple (no banana needed) <<< good!
3.00 pm
Tin of sardines & salad

5.30 pm
half a chicken fillet with half wholemeal pitta, some lettuce,
6.pm (not needed As ive brought the 5pm meal 1/2 hour forward)


6.15 pm training
(after workout 30g whey in water)

8.00 pm dinner
6 oz sirloin steak(no fat)
1 cup of brocoli
(^^ you need carbs here, just 50g of brown rice or wholemeal pasta or boiled new potaoes.

10.00 pm
whey shake, or half a tub of fat free cottage cheese (go for the cottage cheese! & make it a full tub!)
I started on CEE creatine (SNS Creatine E2) just 2 days ago, also take EFA omega3 supplement, and prolab whey powder.


So this is what I would do:

7.30 am
1 serving whey 22 grams protien 130 kals
30 mins SS cardio (brisk walking, stepper, bike ect, nothing to hard)
(after cardio)....1/2 cup oats with water. 3 egg whites 1 yellow

10.00 pm
chicken salad Mixed salad with 120g of chicken

1.00 pm tin of tuna with 30 grams brown rice, half tomato, 5 olives & apple

3.00 pm
Tin of sardines & salad

5.30 pm
half a chicken fillet with half wholemeal pitta & large lettuce(salad?)
6.15 pm training
30g whey in water

8.00 pm dinner
6 oz sirloin steak(no fat)
1 cup of brocoli
50g of brown rice or wholemeal pasta or boiled new potaoes.

10.00 pm
Full tub of fat free cottage cheese.

Hope this looks ok?


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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 13 2006 19:04:41   
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Also Cardio in the morning:

Gym doesnt open till 10? what excuse is that??? Walk the dog briskly for 1/2 hour bud.. that will do.


Do cardio in the morning 6x a week, weights 4 times a week & you can do a little cardio right after weights if you like (when glycogen is low) Just 15-20 mins would be good (have the 30g whey inbetween gym & cardio)


You will melt away the fat this way mate, and with the above diet you muscle will be spared!



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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 13 2006 19:10:45   
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a tub of fat free cottage cheese (go for the cottage cheese! & make it a full tub!)
I started on CEE creatine (SNS Creatine E2) just 2 days ago, also take EFA omega3 supplement, and prolab whey powder.

cheerz samcim,
will take that sample on board as its like a treat to me.. I think it would be ok to include solid meals for during the day as i could make them when i make my lunch everyday and have them at my desk.. I will start on the brisk walking early morning on weights days as well as keeping my 3 days of cardio in the gym.. can i add slim milk to my oats as I think it will be torture to make them with water..
thanks again mate...

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RE: hope you can see any progress, pics added - May 13 2006 19:14:35   
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you are right mate! will have to do some morning cardios. forget about brisk walking the dog as i have a 10 stone bullmastiff that pants like hell when he plays for 10 mins! will have to put a plan for him as well, mate
will start that from monday and will keep you posted...
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Also Cardio in the morning:

Gym doesnt open till 10? what excuse is that??? Walk the dog briskly for 1/2 hour bud.. that will do.


Do cardio in the morning 6x a week, weights 4 times a week & you can do a little cardio right after weights if you like (when glycogen is low) Just 15-20 mins would be good (have the 30g whey inbetween gym & cardio)


You will melt away the fat this way mate, and with the above diet you muscle will be spared!





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