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So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 4 2006 14:35:59
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THE BARBARIAN
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As per title what is the current best over the counter fat burning supp on the market just now?
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 4 2006 14:54:24
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 4 2006 15:02:02
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Depends what counter you are talking about.
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 4 2006 15:10:59
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well obviously eca but thats grey market, i mean fully legal counter
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 4 2006 17:32:07
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prob tight or lipo-6
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 4 2006 18:17:56
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eca is legal
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 4 2006 23:02:34
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I like Reflex Sida Cordifolia, I've done legit ECA and there's nothing to choose between them IMO...
If you can get T3, there's a nice addition to it...
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 0:01:32
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A guy in the shop I sometimes buy supplements etc from told me to take Sida Cordifolia at my own risk. Why would he say that to me as a potential customer??
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 0:21:38
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Side Effects:
anxiety, shaking,increased sweating, lightheadedness, dizziness, light headache, gastrointestinal distress, insomnia, irregular heartbeat, increased heart rate, heart palpitations, inreased blood pressure, stroke, seizures, psychosis etc..people who are easily depressed should be on a watch out because the eph will increase their depression. You can also get a wired feeling when you take it, but this goes away soon. Increased sweating/heat production means you need to drink more water. People with a history of heart problems should just keep away from eph. Moreover, ephedrine can be addictive if taken for more than 6 months. Increased sweating/heat production means you need to drink more water.
taken from this
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/ECA_%28Epedrine%2C_Caffeine%2C_Aspirin%29/m_155953/tm.htm
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 16:45:34
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Sida Cordifolia+ Caffiene +A
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-supplies/capsules-and-softgels/200-x-sida-cordifolia-capsules/
melting point seemed to work but didnt like the cramps or water retention
USP labs cAMPbolic looks good from reviews
either one of those two stacked with Scivation Sesamin also get good reviews
Myprotien: Sida Cordifolia Capsules £21.99
300 mg / 10% ephedra (200 capsules)
Reflex Sida Cordifolia Complex (100 capsules) £19.99
Guarana Extract 450 mg
Sida Cordifolia Extract 125 mg
White Willow Extract 100 mg
Which would you recommend?
With the myprotien version, you have to buy your own caffiene
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 17:30:15
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 17:41:47
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Do Do Chesteze from any pharmacist 1 tab = 18.3mg EPH £4. 30 tabs
Pro Plus 90 tabs £2
Asparine 16 tabs £0.30
1chesteze, 2-3 pro plus, 1/2 asparine
Job done, in this heat I dont know if its the ECA or just the heat thats making me sweat like f**k!
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 18:00:56
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For me it has to be sesamin. No sides. No increased heat. Just fat loss. Cant say enough good things about it.
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 18:06:00
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As per title what is the current best over the counter fat burner on the market just now?
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 20:31:32
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Thanks CK!!
1 more question, what bout this? weak doseage?
Money is tight so....
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Chesteze from any pharmacist 1 tab = 18.3mg EPH £4. 30 tabs
Pro Plus 90 tabs £2
Asparine 16 tabs £0.30
1chesteze, 2-3 pro plus, 1/2 asparine
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 20:59:03
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ORIGINAL: finesse
Thanks CK!!
1 more question, what bout this? weak doseage?
Money is tight so....
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Chesteze from any pharmacist 1 tab = 18.3mg EPH £4. 30 tabs
Pro Plus 90 tabs £2
Asparine 16 tabs £0.30
1chesteze, 2-3 pro plus, 1/2 asparine
should work well (never used chesteze)
chesteze has 30mg caffiene so that would be 18.3mg eph / 180 mg caffiene
so you could add another 1/4 - 1/2 chesteze tab if you feel its not strong enough
chesteze has theophylline which is a down side
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 21:06:31
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ORIGINAL: CK
quote:
ORIGINAL: finesse
Thanks CK!!
1 more question, what bout this? weak doseage?
Money is tight so....
quote:
Chesteze from any pharmacist 1 tab = 18.3mg EPH £4. 30 tabs
Pro Plus 90 tabs £2
Asparine 16 tabs £0.30
1chesteze, 2-3 pro plus, 1/2 asparine
should work well (never used chesteze)
chesteze has 30mg caffiene so that would be 18.3mg eph / 180 mg caffiene
so you could add another 1/4 - 1/2 chesteze tab if you feel its not strong enough
chesteze has theophylline which is a down side
Just read this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophylline
Whats the downside?
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RE: So what is the best over the counter fat burner? - Jul. 5 2006 21:21:00
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CK
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ORIGINAL: finesse
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ORIGINAL: CK
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ORIGINAL: finesse
Thanks CK!!
1 more question, what bout this? weak doseage?
Money is tight so....
quote:
Chesteze from any pharmacist 1 tab = 18.3mg EPH £4. 30 tabs
Pro Plus 90 tabs £2
Asparine 16 tabs £0.30
1chesteze, 2-3 pro plus, 1/2 asparine
should work well (never used chesteze)
chesteze has 30mg caffiene so that would be 18.3mg eph / 180 mg caffiene
so you could add another 1/4 - 1/2 chesteze tab if you feel its not strong enough
chesteze has theophylline which is a down side
Just read this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophylline
Whats the downside?
the down side is its not needed in an ECA stack,
It may increase sides caused by ECA also
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