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Refreshing Progressing??? - 14 November 2006 14:03
The Fiat 500 and his journal of training and food

been training for 3-4 months now. currently on an emergency mini-cut for 5 weeks before a beach holiday. it caught me in the early stages of a bulk due to being booked at quite short notice. cue much cardio and as good a diet as humanly possible (well, at least for 5 days/week).

i hope you enjoy my journal - here is something i recently wrote about why i like to train/eat right.

why i think i like training and stuff
by simon r porter (25)


intro
there are obviously a number of factors which contribute to an individual's pursuit of, and involvement in, any particular activity. IMO (which has been hastily thought through) there are a readily identifiable traits/characteristics which may draw people to the combination of weight training and diet control that i suppose cannot be referred to in any other way than bodybuilding. such characteristics may be: dissatisfaction with physical appearance, a preference for discipline and routine, a propensity for self-criticism and perfectionism, a naturally competitive nature, a desire to distance one's self from past failures/indescretions (regarding food or otherwise), a wish to exert control on one's life generally. These may all be linked in some way to eachother and I am certain that one of the above will often play a role in a bodybuilder's motivation whether they be professional of purely recreational.

I am not a bodybuilder, I believe a moniker (sp.?) like that must be earned through years of sustained training, learning and application reaping results. Perhaps the best way to describe myself, as relative hereto, would be someone who enjoys practicing and learning about weight training and nutrition.

nutrition
although in bodybuilding nutrition seem to go hand in hand i believe that in my case they appeal to me for different reasons. i could definitely see how an individual could potentially enjoy one without being especially interested in the other.

i have been bulemic to a varying degree for about 4 years. i'm fairly typical in that it comes and goes in terms of both severity and the period which i (let?) myself be affected for. it's difficult, and irrelevant to my purpose here, to discussthe reasons for such tendancies so i shall move on.

in following an organised, nutritonally sound food regime i know my body is getting roughly what it needs when it needs it, helping to facilitate my goals in terms of my physique/appearance. it allows me to banish the chaotic roller coaster of bulemia: i gain satisfaction from displaying the sustained discipline required to eat x food at y time for z purpose; binging becomes less desireable as a result of this satisfaction. i don't like/seek to be mediocre or run-of-the-mill - my nutritional choice is, in main-stream terms, none of the above and said choice helps my body to escape that categorisation.

weight training
as anyone who knows me (or has played me at any game ever) i am quietly, fiercely competitive. i hate to lose. not a natural sportsman i found an outlet in endurance sports (i trained, in an undeucated manner, up to twice per day) in my teens before socialising got in the way.

i turned to poker a few years ago and played fairly seriously and quite succesfully for that time. although i was successful in the long-run, poker can be a very cruel game, even to the very good player over a shorter period - a week, month, even a year or two. it is a luck game with an element of skill so such things are to be expected. and that is my problem with poker - over a period which feels very prolonged such as 2 months a player can be punished for playing well. for me this was unsatisfactory and frustrating - doing barely more than breaking even whilst playing better than your opponents is infuriating, the game becomes a pure, tough, fruitless grind.

so i quit in search of something more rewarding, an interest in which my efforts and desire to learn and improve would be reflected over shorter periods of time as well as longer ones. as a big fan of statistics i sought something i could measure improvement in over weeks, months, years. it is my competitive nature as much as my desire to change my physique which motivates me to lift more with better form for more reps than last time.

i find it incredibly satisfying to improve lifted weights and physical measurements, to look back and see change, to set goals for the future and and apply my fledgling knowledge and experience as best i can to those goals.

end
after 4 months of being interested in recreational 'bodybuilding' i can forward to weeks, months, years of (1) dietary control and discipline helping to put my food related problems squarely in the past (2) my competitive streak yielding improvement in weight training and that in turn satisfying my statistics fetish (

i think i wrote this to rationalise my thoughts on the topic and to reaffirm my motivation. it was probably also more than a little cathartic . maybe it willhelp someone else realise the positive underlying motivations which lie beneath their liking for weight training and stuff.

cheers if you've bothered to read this.

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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 14 November 2006 14:17
i forgot to mention before, i do about 25 mins low intensity cardio (jogging) every morning before breaskfast. Not only does this (i am informed) take a high ratio of fuel from fat resources, but it also sets me up for the day with a slightly improved metabolism (i think). and i also feel much better than if i'd snooxed for an extre half hour!
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 14 November 2006 14:34
Hey Fiat good luck there with starting a journal, it can really help with the motivation.

Training may be not to bad over the next 6 weeks or so, but as try and build muscle you are going to need to start moving heavier weights, as to go to exhaust on the press ups etc, you may find that it becomes more of a cardio activity than a muscle building one.

Diet
I would recommend eating more veg through the day, and also include small quantities of nuts, and seeds to increase the fat intake within your diet. try and vary your meat sources or you may find that you get sick of the chicken breasts, you are not going for competion levels of cut at the moment, so try and vary your diet a bit more and don't be too strict at this stage or you may sicken yourself.

I was just going to say becareful you don't become to dis-heartened on the cut, as this got me the first time I cut and there was very little muscle I felt really sh!tty

But hey, Welcome to Muscle Talk and Good Luck

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You only bench, squat and clean!!

yeah it's true, check my journal
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 14 November 2006 14:56
zlaty, cheers for the advice. input is much appreciated, and one big reason why i started this journal.

I will definitely give my training a complete overhaul when i finish this cut, incorporating heavier weights. Iwill prob scour muscletalk for regimes that have worked for people who had similar goals to myself.
I think what you said about variation in diet is key, specially for someone like me who has a monstrous appetite for their size and love food (ie. is greedy!).

i'm enjoying the challenge of the cut currently so hopefully i can last it out and such results that i feel ready to start a bulk, which i think i'll enjoy even more - lots of quality food and i'll probably enjoy the heavy training too .

as an aside, what do people generally find most difficult (ie. physically or mentally taxing) cutting or bulking. I imagine a harsh cut would be damn tough although undoubtedly both would be hard if you're not seeing any results.

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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 15 November 2006 12:44
took some measurements yesterday. that tape was brutal to me, it has reminded me what a long journey of improvement i have ahead of me to achieve any goals. anyway here go the (embarrassing) stats:

Chest - 33.5"
waist at narrowest - 29"
waist at naval - 33" (if i was a girl i'd have great child-bearing hips!, lol)
hips - 34"

forearms - 9.5"
biceps - 10.5"

calves - 14"
thighs - 20.5"

i'm not really sure if i was measuring arms and legs at 'correct' points, but i spose it doesn't matter as long as i measure the same points in the months to come as it's
all relative.

yesterday did my lower body routine. i'm really just learning squat and deadlift technique, but they feel good and i'm sure i'll be confident enough in my technique to add more weight soon.

yesterday's lower

front squat 30kg 5x5

deadlift 32.5kg 5x5

calf raise 35kg 5x10

i wanted to add more weight, particularly to the calve raises, but i was using a mate's barbell at home, and 35kg was all he had.

stuck to my diet well. gallons of water, 5 small meals, 3hrs between each and PWO shake of whey and some dextrose.

was up like a jack-in-the-box at 7.30 for a 25minute run this morning before breakfast. Feeling good and looking forward to working out this avo (undecided whether to stay at home or go to the gym as of yet)
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 16 November 2006 11:49
yesterday was a good day. i got plenty of uni work done in a good library stint, although i have to admit i am all too prone to getting sucked into reading forum threads on here. You know how it goes: i'll just have a 5min browse, BAM! 2 hours on, d'oh! another gd thing was beating aidy at tiger woods (i know ur reading this mate, and you know i am the dominator!)

right, down to business
I have increased my EFA intake by taking more nuts and seeds with meals, although i have to admit i'm struggling for ideas as to how to incorporate more veg throughout the day(always much easier when at home).

Went to gym about 6pm, in the pissing rain i might add. It was upper body day and i felt i did ok. all compound lifts and a base makes it easy to set progressive targets - i'm all about the stats!

upper body (all weights in KG)

chin ups: bodyweight x 5, 4, 2, 1, 1
(i'm not gonna bother recording the 'half way up' ones' as .5) close grip, palms facing me

BB bench press 30x5, 40x5, 40x5, 35x5, 35x5

DB row 10x5, 10x5, 12x5, 12x5, 14x5

DB military press 8x5, 8x5, 10x5, 10x5, 12x5


i felt like i was getting a good balance of solid technique and a sufficiently heavy weight on all exercises with the exception of the chins where i clearly can't manage my bodyweight yet. i had forgotten how satisfying weight training could be, i think i'm gonna enjoy sticking to a good, progressive regime.

Next upper body day i'm gonna probably keep the weight the same, maybe adding small amounts to final sets to see how i go. and when i can do 5x5 chin ups (if ever) i will be so chuffed it's unreal!

got up this morning for approx. 20 minute jog.
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 16 November 2006 14:15
This is excellent mate, really shows that you are serious. I will be keeping tabs on this daily and hopefully aiming to emulate it, so keep posting and getting advice. (p.s. me and tiger are two sides of the same coin, i am just a slow starter!) And i am buying you a big mirror!
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 16 November 2006 14:40
cheers gilroy. you should call your journal 'lean, strong, fit person gets leaner, stronger and fitter'. hmmm... on second thoughts that ain't too catchy, and it kinda sounds like i have an itch for you too...

seriously tho, it'd be great if you could get one up and running too, busy as you are. it's not like you need the motivation, but i'm sure everyone can benefit from the advice and occasional constructive criticism regarding training and nutrition that's available on here.
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 18 November 2006 01:04
well then,

bevvied on thurs night. on the whiskey/vodka and diet coke all nite, so not so bad as pints in terms of cals i spose.

friday was super bust with travelling and uni so i didn't have time either for cardio or the gym. on nightshift 2nite and work is quiet so hope to do a makeshift leg workout here. won't be perfect, but better than nothing.

a couple of hours ago i had my 1st EVER experince of peanut butter. it was pretty good, will definitely be havin some more. it was sunpat at work, so i'm looking forward to trying Whole Earth crunchy, which i hear from the nutrition forum is the best thing since electricity. i'm already looking forward to getting back to the weights properly on monday.
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 20 November 2006 16:22
wkend over.

as i think i said before, i enjoy more 'social' eating, drinking and training habits at the weekend, not least because i don't get to see my fiancee through the week due to being at university 150 miles away from home!!

i did my legs session on saturday. i only had 22.5kg of dumbbells available, obviously not ideal. i tried to make up for the lack of weight by really focusing on correct technique and completing each rep very slowly and steadily, with squats being totally ass to grass . it wasn't as good as having more weight but it felt ok.

diet wise the wkend wasn't a complete disaster. i drank mostly whiskey and diet coke (what a drink by the way) and didn't pig out on late night crapfood.

in addition to recently trying peanut butter (yum) i tried some quark, mixed with cadburys options on saturday - can u tell i've been in the nutrition forum?! oh my, it really is hard to believe that something so tasty is that good for you, i felt like i was cheating. and it's so cheap! it will definitely become an evening/before bed staple of my diet i think.

today is push day and i'm really stoked about trying to improve my BBbench and DBmilitary press lifts. I'm also gonna incorporate some dips, which i've never done before. I am slightly worried that the movement won't be sympathetic to a persistent shoulder dislocation injury that rears its head quite regularly, last time being on saturday. but hey, right now the shoulder feels fine, if a little loose (those who've had similar injuries will probably know what i mean by this).

i'll post tonight's results tomorrow. take it easy.
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 21 November 2006 12:14
just a quick post of my lifts from yesterday, push day. all in kg

dips
body weight x5, x2(man these were hard, obviously not ready for them yet)

BB bench
35x5, 35x5, 40x5, 40x5, 45x3

DB military press
10x5, 10x5, 10x5, 10x5, 12x5

did some pressups to make up for the 3.5 sets of extra dips that i shoulda done. then did 20mins steady cardio, approx 70% MaxHR

next push day, instead of the dips i'm gonna try some DB incline press, i will go back to the dips in a few months, hopefully then i'll be more able to manage my bodyweight.

bench and militray presses felt good and there was a slight improvement on last time. i hope this slight improvement will continue next time.

i slept in today because i was up til 1am doing uni work but i'm just going to do my pull day and then another 20mins cardio after to make up for my missed run this morning.

still enjoying the diet, small and regular is the way forward. quark + chocolate orange options = yum
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 21 November 2006 15:39
i had to do my pull day today (ideally i would like to leave a day between training days on my 3 day split) because of other, more important things, like uni and seeing my fiancee. i wasn't feeling too great in terms of energy and focus, but when i got to the gym it turned out pretty damn good. so here's what happened (all in kg):

deadlifts
40x5, 50x5, 55x5, 60x5, 60x5

DB row
12x5, 12x5, 12x5, 14x5, 14x5

chinups (palms towards me
bodyweightx5, 4, 2, 2, 1

the only negative from this workout was that my form began to wain on the 4th set of deadlifts, although it got better on the 5th set because i focused on it and it felt correct. this was my 1st time doing deadlifts properly with sufficient weight in a gym. i was quite chuffed with my form in the main and found the movement to be very satisfying, although difficult.

i increased the weight on the rows from last session and managed well. last session i did chin ups 1st so i was pleased that i managed the same number of reps this time, even after the deadlifts and rows. like i said before when i can do bodyweight 5x5 on pull day i'll be over the moon.

i did 15mins low intensity on the rowing machine to (partially) make up for missing my jog this morning, then had a PWO of whey and dextrose.

back to the uni grindstone now with a tuna, peanut butter and eggwhite wholegrain sandwich (sounds minging, but tastes fine) and a small Toxic shake to keep me going until hometime about 9pm. 1st time i've made up a toxic shake. it was quick and easy and smells nice so hopefully it'll be good. over and out.
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 23 November 2006 21:22
well, 1st leg day is done and dusted. i know i keep goin on about it, but i'm really enjoying the lifting - feels good. anyway here's what happened:

squat(in kg)
20x5, 40x5, 50x5, 45x5, 40x5, 45x5

SLDL(kg)
20x5, 30x5, 40x5, 50x5, 45x5

calf raises(on a machine, dunno what, if anything, the numbers are sposed to represent)
115x5. 190x5, 215x5, 265x5, 310x5

15 min low intensity row

squats were very enjoyable. i concentrated on my technique, but again was shocked i could lift so little. o well, the only way is up! SLDLS were great, again the movement was good. Are you supposed to arch your back when reaching for the floor? i was arching to an extent and i dunno if this is good, certainly didn't feel any pain/too much stress in my lower back.

calf raises set my calves on fire, i remember them doing this when i trained more haphazardly too. i didn't like using the machine though and wondered if/how anyone uses free weights for this movement?

all in all i felt i was hitting appropriate weights as i was finding completion of my final set's final reps a struggle on all exercises. whey, dextrose, water and home. done and done.
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 23 November 2006 21:31
Nice one mate keep it up! I'm looking forward to my leg day tomorrow hehe.

On the SLDL's, I think you're doing them right, as you're feeling it in your hams not your lower back.
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RE: The 500's (newbie) journal of a short cut then big bulk - 23 November 2006 23:36

ORIGINAL: Mart1203

Nice one mate keep it up! I'm looking forward to my leg day tomorrow hehe.

On the SLDL's, I think you're doing them right, as you're feeling it in your hams not your lower back.


cheers mart, yea i think iwas doing the SLDLs fine. looked at that site with all the vids, can't remember the name, but anyway.
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RE: 500 discovers the famed newbie cut+bulk (hopefully) - 27 November 2006 16:53
Well the weekend was quite quiet, which meant my diet wasn't too far off base and i also had a little time to do some cardio with a 25min jog on friday morning, 10 minutes on saturday and 25 minutes on sunday.

monday is push day and i've just done it. some good news and some bad news, good first:

BB benchpress(kg)
40x5, 40x5, 40x5, 42.5x5, 45x5

DB military press(kg)
10x5, 10x5, 12x5, 12x5, 12x4

my bench was much better than last week when i only managed 35x5, 35x5, 40x5, 40x5, 45x3. I thought the 45x5 without a spot was ambitious but them came ok when i really put my mind to it. military was good, again increase in weight from last week, just have to squeeze that 5th rep out on final set now, 12x5x5 in sight.

bad news is that on about 3rd bench set the front of my right shoulder began to hurt. it was fine on military as i spose it wasn't really involved but i then did some incline DB press and only managed

DB incline press (kg)
12x5, 12x4, stopped

shoulder was too painful too carry on so i stopped and warmed down on cardio for 5. whey, dextrose, water, out!

to sum up, i was really chuffed with bench progress (45x5x5 not far off hopefully) but am slightly worried by my now very stiff shoulder. especially since a have 'hyper-extensive' joints (at least i think that's the correct terminology) and have had many problems with dislocated left shoulders and tears in my ankles.

hopefully it'll feel improved by pull day on wed, when it shouldn't b too stresses anyway. o well, off to uni. over and out.
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RE: 500 discovers the famed newbie cut+bulk (hopefully) - 27 November 2006 22:42

damn, shoulder is killing me. right along the front of it. hurts most when i move my arm backwards. dunno what it could be, maybe a stretch, i imagine it would be sorer if it was a tear and it definitely wasn't another dislocation (thank god!).

stop moaning like a girl! just hope it heals quickly, don't want to stall any progress i'm making.

on a more positive note i weighed myself 2day (even though i had vowed not to until 14 Dec, 1 month in) and i was down to 143.5lb from 147 at the outset so quite chuffed with that.
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RE: 500 discovers the famed newbie cut+bulk (hopefully) - 28 November 2006 12:32
up at 7am for the usual pre-breakfast cardio. 20 min jog, in the pissing rain and near pitch black. had some second thoughts when i stepped outside, but pulled my socks up (literally, to keep my chicken legs warm) and went for the usual 20minutes.

R shoulder is slightly better today, definitely less pain. due to time pressure i may have to do my pull day today so hopefully the shoulder will have no problems in holding up. i also think i'llbe able to increase my deadlift from 60kg as I have picked up some good pointers on correct technique on the MT forums. fingers crossed i will also get closer to my holy grail of 5x5 bodyweight closegrip pullups post deadlift and DB row. results later... he says as if there are people anxiously waiting to read how he did!! ha. damn these journals are so addictive i'm posting sh1te without any lifting results. get back to work fiat you bum.
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RE: 500 discovers the famed newbie cut+bulk (hopefully) - 28 November 2006 21:51
nui gym was heaving this evening. worse yet, what appeared to be the entire women's rugby team had just started using the lifting platform thingy, so i couldn't start on my deadlifts unles