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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 11 2004 23:49:14
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Spirit Guide
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heres an interesting question
on clen you are meant to be really hot yeah
what iuf you sleep with the window open and let the cold in
will this counter the effects a bit or will i be cold on the outside and hot on the inside
why does that sound familiar???
oh yeah - that dime ad with harry enfield about 10 years ago "smooth on the outside and crunchy on the inside" - lol
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 12 2004 9:56:31
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heres an interesting question
on clen you are meant to be really hot yeah
what iuf you sleep with the window open and let the cold in
will this counter the effects a bit or will i be cold on the outside and hot on the inside
It won't affect then clen. If you cool the skin sufficiently, you will feel 'cold' and shiver thus burning even more calories.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 12 2004 11:56:46
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nice one
windows wide open for me then
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 19 2004 19:20:46
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vasopro! get it from USA sites. cheap and gets through okay.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 20 2004 13:43:15
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should u take them on an empty stomach or with food ? Whats the caffiene like in nescafe ?
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 20 2004 13:53:34
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I take about 30 mins before food or workout.
1 teasp nescafe will get you around 75mg. To use coffee is not an ideal solution and is also likely to be expensive.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 24 2004 19:21:45
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just got some do do chesteze , would you recommend just starting with the one dose (with pro plus and aspirin) for the first day , and will it supress my appetite , im new to all this .
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Nov. 24 2004 22:36:30
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Yes - a good idea to start at one dose to assess tolerance. Many people notice a marked reduction in appetite and increased energy levels.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 15 2004 17:50:49
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party boy, i'm pretty new to this ECA lark and am doing 2 chesteze + 2 pro plus (no asprin) and lots of ground coffee per day, 1 week on, one week off. I'm really seeing big energy level improvements and my heart rate seems far easier to increase when i'm on the ON weeks but i'm struggling with energy and building my heartrate up for cardio on the off weeks. The fat is litterally dropping off me though (lost 10kg of fat in the last 3 month).
From what i've read the ECA stack affects different people in different ways, for me a small dose is helping me push myself in the gym and losing fat whilst other people build up an immunity to it and are on stupid doses to get an effect. So do you think in my case going from not doing any exercise to building up to 5 days a week for a hour in the gym and being on EC make more of an impact?
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 16 2004 13:09:37
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Just getting my head round this ECA.. so does this sound right??
Chesteze x2 tabs at 18mg Ephedrine each = 36mg plus 60mg of caffeine
Pro Plus x 3 tabs at 50mg caffeice each = 150 mg (plus the 60 mg above) = 210mg
is this ok??
Plus whats the Asprin for??? do I need asprin too??
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 16 2004 14:59:19
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Hamsterdude, I'm not sure I understand your question fully, though imo it is a good idea to build up slowly into an exercise program from being sedatary.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 16 2004 15:11:20
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Just getting my head round this ECA.. so does this sound right??
Chesteze x2 tabs at 18mg Ephedrine each = 36mg plus 60mg of caffeine
Pro Plus x 3 tabs at 50mg caffeice each = 150 mg (plus the 60 mg above) = 210mg
is this ok??
Plus whats the Asprin for??? do I need asprin too??
Sounds reasonable bro, though you may want to start with 1.5 chesteze to assess tolerance.
You don't need aspirin pe se, though it is inexpensive and acts synergistically with the eph and caffeine. If you have no tolerance issues with aspirin, imo you should consider adding it.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 16 2004 16:01:25
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thanks for the advice PartyBoy....
So this stack of ECA, do I have to take this quantity 3 times per day??
or is it better to start once a day then up it the next week???
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 16 2004 16:06:08
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Yes, standard dose would be 3 times ed. I recommend starting at one dose and building up to assess tolerance.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 20 2004 22:27:05
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I know ephedrine is illegal in the US, so why is this version legal? What's the difference between ephedrine and ephedrine HCL?
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 20 2004 22:39:40
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how should the eca stack be cycled? Sorry if this has been answered, I read through the post a couple of times and didn't see it...
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 25 2004 17:09:08
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If just running ECA independant of clen, you could stay on constantly for quite a while, though I'd say 12 weeks max. Give yourself a couple of months break before re-using.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 28 2004 19:12:20
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Partyboy, I was wondering how the dosage of ECA should be split up during the day. Does this sound okay? Take before breakfast, with lunch, and before my early evening workout? I don't want to take too late as it would keep me up, but I lift around 7 at night and go to bed at around 12, so i figure that would give it enough time to leave me before bed. Also, what are the percentages of each that should be taken at each interval, if what I mentioned sounds alright. Thanks
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 29 2004 6:33:36
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3 times a day, breakfast, dinner, early tea time is ideal(4.00ish)
i would aim to take your last dose around 6 hours before bed, this should be a good time to try and avoid the caff causing sleep disturbance. tho many things can have an effect of the half life of caffine.
id aim for 20 to 30mg of eph, 200mg of caff, 50 to 100mg of asprin per dose, you could always drop the caffine dose on the last one to try and avoid sleep disturbance (100mg?)
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