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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 29 2004 17:38:24
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Snoopy, thanks for the response. I think you have a good idea about dropping the caffeine on the last dose, but I was thinking of taking the last dose maybe an hour before my workout and I like the way the caffeine gets me motivated to lift, so I'll tinker with it a bit. Do you guys do any ECA before workouts? And if so, how long before hand?
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 29 2004 18:31:20
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20 or 30 mins before should be fine. As said, monitor your ability to sleep and adjust dosages/timings accordingly.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Dec. 31 2004 1:40:29
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i find 45 mins before workout is ideal for me.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Jan. 13 2005 17:03:49
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I've just decided to give ECA a go and have a couple of questions
1. I drink a fair bit of skimmed milk and read somewhere this can counter the effects. Is this true?
2. Do I need to take ECA on non training days?
Any help much appreciated.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Jan. 13 2005 18:32:38
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1) No
2) Yes
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Jan. 14 2005 10:11:13
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Thanks alot for that
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Jan. 18 2005 13:52:08
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I just found this forum whilst googling for chesteze side effects- Could someone let me know just how toxic to the liver chesteze is? I've had a few liver scares in the past (OD.. don't ask)
I'm using chestese (recommended by my dad- a masters weightlifter) to aid weightloss by increasing metabolism and suppressing appetite.
Obviously the directions say to take a maximum of four per day, with a 4 hour interval between doses, but at the minute i am only taking one dose (one tablet) about 30-60 minutes before my meal.
I'm worried about the addiction problems of taking the EC (at least) once a day- I've heard Ephedrine is very addictive; the reason it's banned in the US.
I've been told (by Vati) to take it in the mornings, too, which i planned on doing, but I don't want to becoe out-of-control dependant on it. I plan on taking it indefinately, until I reach my target weight- I've also decreased my calorie consumption and increased (if only a little!) my exercise levels.
I'm also worried about side effect, like liver damage or heart attacks, but i'm a severe hypochondriac so tell me if these fears are unfounded or not.
Is the EC going to cause any damage (or a dependancy) by taking it in the morning and before my meal every day?
I realise this post may be rather incoherent, but I'm typing in a hurry.
Sorry if i'm being a pain
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Jan. 19 2005 13:02:53
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I Started with ECA a week ago, starting out with one dose now I'm up to two a day. I've suffered a not inconsiderable drop in strength at the gym, is this normal
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Jan. 19 2005 14:14:46
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No, not normal. ECA can actually improve performance.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Jan. 23 2005 18:28:35
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Harpy
IObviously the directions say to take a maximum of four per day, with a 4 hour interval between doses, but at the minute i am only taking one dose (one tablet) about 30-60 minutes before my meal.
= read through this post for best dosing advise
I'm worried about the addiction problems of taking the EC (at least) once a day- I've heard Ephedrine is very addictive; the reason it's banned in the US.
=ephedrine is not banned in the usa, imo its not very addictive at recommended dosing/cycling.
I've been told (by Vati) to take it in the mornings, too, which i planned on doing, but I don't want to becoe out-of-control dependant on it. I plan on taking it indefinately, until I reach my target weight- I've also decreased my calorie consumption and increased (if only a little!) my exercise levels.
=cycling it is best, as said read this post for dosing
I'm also worried about side effect, like liver damage or heart attacks, but i'm a severe hypochondriac so tell me if these fears are unfounded or not.
= there are many side effects with this drug, most mild but if you have any medical conditions then consult your doctor. if you are worried i would advise to leave it alone.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Feb. 3 2005 13:30:18
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i drink about 4 to 5 strong cups of coffee a day.
before the gym i have two coffees and a 1000mg of paracetamol(asprin)
do u think this will help burn fat and speed metebolizm??
or should i up the dosage??
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Feb. 3 2005 16:17:08
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ORIGINAL: D-JUICE
or should i up the dosage??
No!
Paracetamol is not aspirin. You should not be taking paracetamol regularly anyway.
Doubtful coffee alone will increase thermogenisis to any notable degree. It will provide a 'kick' for workouts though I wouldn't rely on it long term.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Feb. 11 2005 21:34:01
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would ECA and everything mentioned above help with bulking at all?? and how long should you take for?? do the side effects stop?
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Feb. 11 2005 21:37:11
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I would only use it whilst bulking for the occasional 'kick' before workouts. There's no need to use it in a fat loss sense as the easiest way to stop too much fat storage is to cut back of calorie intake a little.
Yes, sides do subside to a degree after continued use.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Mar. 9 2005 18:04:12
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PartyBoy-
Just a quick ??
My ? is about dosing...
The bottle says Proprietary Blend 1280MG
Serving 2 capsules
Ma Huang Extract ( 25mg of Ephedrine Alkaloids)
Caffeine (250mg of Caffeine Anhydrous)
It list others but not the mg
How should I dose throught out the day...I just finished my first 2 weeks of Clen.
The bottle says 2 capsules morning
2 capsules mid-afternoon.
Thanks
J
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Mar. 10 2005 23:13:13
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Quick question:
The ephedrine pills i have are small and consist of 8mg's of pure ephedrine HCL. I've been taking 3 of these, plus 2 x 100mg of caffeine pills, and an aspirin.
However, at this rate (9 pills a day), i'm going to go through my supply quite quickly. \
My question is, would i notice a big difference if I took 2 eph pills in my stack? That's 16mgs vs 24 mgs of ephedrine.
Or perhaps a better routine would be 3 with teh first stack of the day, then 2 in the other stacks.
Any advice woudl be nice.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Mar. 11 2005 18:44:15
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Party boy!
Is E.C. still safe when you don't have much to loose?
I intend to cut a pound, maybe two.
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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) - Mar. 11 2005 19:54:19
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ORIGINAL: MartinA
I was wondering if taking the ECA stack with a cup of Green Tea would enhance the thermogenic effect as Green Tea is widely referenced as a good thermogenic supplement. Anyone had any experiences?
MartinA.
Not tried it personally but can imagine that it would be at least slightly beneficial. Whether this justifies the cost I'm not sure tbh.
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