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 3 DAY Split is Magic
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3 DAY Split is Magic - 27 December 2006 21:49
2008 - 16 STONES at 5ft9


For the first time guys I feel big :) ......I have been doing a 3 day split for like 4 months. Believe me it works. I wouldnt do any other split any time soon :) ...I'm a comfortable 14 stones now. Legs have gone Bigger. Ass has grown lol, but I dont care. Upper body has definately improved in size.

So all I can say is More doesnt mean your gonna grow more. Low volume, heavy training + PLENTY of REST + Good diet = MASS

The only thing I was missing from this fomula years ago was the REST factor and I did way too much volume.

P.S you got to do it properly :)

Anyway Good luck to you all.

EDIT:
Just seen some posts asking for me to post my routine. Like BIG MAL has already posted, mine is bang on the same..... so what am trying to say is maybe my routine isn't the MAGIC, but it sure does work ...what am trying to say is its the REST factor what most people overlook. With this routine I haven't injured myself like I used to when i over trained.

Also this routine is nicely based around the main compound excersises. If you focus on compounds you really cant go wrong. It minimizes the isolated training, which I feel most people including me has fell in the trap of doing. Oh well you learn from you mistakes.
The compounds uses many different muscle groups, so you really don't need to train the arms on a seperate day. for example When am doing my Bench pressing , I know Ive also worked out my tris during this. So just to kill the tris off I normaly just do 3 sets of skull crushers or tricep extensions.
Same with the biceps. When i train my back I feel my biceps are trained hard during rows etc, and then I just kill them off with some dumbell curls. Its nice n simple. But VERY effective.

Also when you rest plenty, which gives you more time to recover, your lifts on the lifting days are soo much better. Which means better gains!

Definately a good bulker this is.

Day 1: Chest, should's, tri's
Bench
dips
mil press
skullcrushers

Day 2: Rest

Day 3: Back, bi's

Deadlifts
pullups
rows
curls

Day 4: Rest

Day 5: Legs, abs
Squat alt with Leg Press
SLDL
calf raises
ab work

Days 6+7: rest


EDIT 2:
Take a break from the routine your doing, for a week or so......

The first step is to identify which exercises you feel are lacking (in terms of strength)...

For example Deadlift:

now you start all the lifts a little lower than your best (ie. very easy on the 1st week)...

taking the deadlift example - your last PB might be 200kg for 5 x 5....

So you would probably knock it down to about 180 and add 5 kg on each week... you might at the end of this loading period make 205 or 210 for 5 x 5 with no more left in the tank...

at this point you would drop it to 3 x 3 (deload week) and use the same weight (205 or 210) and load it up again (intensity phase)... when the 3 x 3 phase has finished (could be 2 weeks, could be 6 weeks) you start all over again... prob at 190kg for the dead lift....

the reason you identify your week lifts at the start of the load allows you to concentrate on them only... ie. if your squat fails during the 5 x 5 loading phase but your deadlift is still sailing on and its the deadlift you want to focus on - you would drop the squat to prob 5 sets of three and cruise the weight on that - allowing the lift to assist the deadlift but not destroy your posterior chain so that your deadlift suffers too.
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 27 December 2006 22:20
Hiya mate,

Any chance you can show us your magic routine or is it a secret

A 3 day split is what I do and I would love to know how you trained to grow such crazy legs!!

Cheers

Emz
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 27 December 2006 22:50
Would be interesting to see!
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 27 December 2006 22:59
Yeah SHARE!

what did u do, three days on 1 day off then on again??? What what what.....?
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 12:09
Wouldn't mind seeing it too, I'm currently doing a 4 day split but fancy a change for the first quarter of 2007
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 12:21
Agreed, since i started a 3 day split, my gains have been phenomenal. Before that i used a 5 day split and growth was absolutly dreadful. I think its the increased rest, i know i shouldnt say it but i personally believe that 70% of bodybuilding success, is down to rest and eating like a horse.

People tend to do too much, if you do a 5 day split, then make sure you decrease the amount of movements you do. Overtraining is an invisible enemy to most of us. And it cost me for years.
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 12:56
What does your routine look like mate if you don't mind me asking?
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 13:39
Hi sl and Furyan,

Can you let us know your full routine and rep ranges?

I myself am looking to start a new routine 2nd Jan and from what you say looks like I should be giving either one of yours a try.


Cheers
The Orb
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 14:24

ORIGINAL: sl

For the first time guys I feel big :) ......I have been doing a 3 day split for like 4 months. Believe me it works. I wouldnt do any other split any time soon :) ...I'm a comfortable 14 stones now. Legs have gone Bigger. Ass has grown lol, but I dont care. Upper body has definately improved in size.

So all I can say is More doesnt mean your gonna grow more. Low volume, heavy training + PLENTY of REST + Good diet = MASS

The only thing I was missing from this fomula years ago was the REST factor and I did way too much volume.

P.S you got to do it properly :)

Anyway Good luck to you all.




Nice to see someone else coming to the same conclusion as myself. I have been training for 25 years and have found the 3 day split THE best routine I have ever used (and believe me I have used them all) I train with low sets and maximum intensity and allow for the maximum amount of rest. If you feel that you add any more to this routine then you are simply not training hard enough.

Glad to hear that its all going well for you, sl. My only regret is that I didn't realise this many years ago.
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 14:27
what does your routine consist of then mate?
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 14:45


ORIGINAL: description

what does your routine consist of then mate?


At the moment I am using push pull and legs. I do 5 to 7 sets for large body parts and 3 to 5 to smaller parts. (with two warm ups per body part). For example chest I do 3 working sets of incline press, 2 sets of flats and 2 sets of flat flys. Each set to failure. With regards training to failure I have found anything less is simple a waste of time.
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 14:49


ORIGINAL: Shack



ORIGINAL: description

what does your routine consist of then mate?


At the moment I am using push pull and legs. I do 5 to 7 sets for large body parts and 3 to 5 to smaller parts. (with two warm ups per body part). For example chest I do 3 working sets of incline press, 2 sets of flats and 2 sets of flat flys. Each set to failure. With regards training to failure I have found anything less is simple a waste of time.



Hope you don`t mind me asking,but are you natural or assisted?

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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 14:50


ORIGINAL: Tat2shep



ORIGINAL: Shack



ORIGINAL: description

what does your routine consist of then mate?


At the moment I am using push pull and legs. I do 5 to 7 sets for large body parts and 3 to 5 to smaller parts. (with two warm ups per body part). For example chest I do 3 working sets of incline press, 2 sets of flats and 2 sets of flat flys. Each set to failure. With regards training to failure I have found anything less is simple a waste of time.



Hope you don`t mind me asking,but are you natural or assisted?



Been natural for over 10 years.
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 14:52
natural/assisted doesn't really make very much difference to routine IMO. A good routine is a good routine, with or without AAS.
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 14:57


ORIGINAL: Shack



ORIGINAL: Tat2shep



ORIGINAL: Shack



ORIGINAL: description

what does your routine consist of then mate?


At the moment I am using push pull and legs. I do 5 to 7 sets for large body parts and 3 to 5 to smaller parts. (with two warm ups per body part). For example chest I do 3 working sets of incline press, 2 sets of flats and 2 sets of flat flys. Each set to failure. With regards training to failure I have found anything less is simple a waste of time.



Hope you don`t mind me asking,but are you natural or assisted?



Been natural for over 10 years.


Thanks for answering.

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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 15:05


ORIGINAL: big_mal

natural/assisted doesn't really make very much difference to routine IMO. A good routine is a good routine, with or without AAS.


I disagree.If you are on gear then your recovery rate will be loads better! So a good routine for a juiced lifter will usually include more volume as the lifter will be capable of recovering better.Thats why the pros do a lot more volume.
Natural lifters will always do better on a lower volume,higher intensity style of routine.

Read this:
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_7923/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm



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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 15:11


ORIGINAL: Tat2shep



ORIGINAL: big_mal

natural/assisted doesn't really make very much difference to routine IMO. A good routine is a good routine, with or without AAS.


I disagree.If you are on gear then your recovery rate will be loads better! So a good routine for a juiced lifter will usually include more volume as the lifter will be capable of recovering better.Thats why the pros do a lot more volume.
Natural lifters will always do better on a lower volume,higher intensity style of routine.

Read this:
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_7923/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm






Only talking from experience. My routine is identical whether I am on cycle or not, difference is that I am able to increase weights/intensity much better on cycle.
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 15:11
Wheres this routine then would be interested in seeing it!
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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 15:15


ORIGINAL: big_mal



ORIGINAL: Tat2shep



ORIGINAL: big_mal

natural/assisted doesn't really make very much difference to routine IMO. A good routine is a good routine, with or without AAS.


I disagree.If you are on gear then your recovery rate will be loads better! So a good routine for a juiced lifter will usually include more volume as the lifter will be capable of recovering better.Thats why the pros do a lot more volume.
Natural lifters will always do better on a lower volume,higher intensity style of routine.

Read this:
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_7923/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm




difference is that I am able to increase weights/intensity much better on cycle.


I rest my case your honour

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RE: 3 DAY Split is Magic - 28 December 2006 15:17


ORIGINAL: Tat2shep

I rest my case your honour



glad we agree.
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