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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Nov. 27 2004 20:04:41
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Aftershocker
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If I was to incorporate T3 into a test/tren/winni cycle and follow the recommended dosages to the tee, what would be the risk of doing perminant damage to Thyroid levels.
Is it neglegable or do i need to consider things more carefully?
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Nov. 29 2004 8:24:19
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does any one have some hard facts on about how much thyroid hormone will increase ur matabolism??
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Nov. 29 2004 8:40:39
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There is little in the way of 'hard facts' when it comes to results or dangers. This is due to the fact that these drugs were not intended for the purposes/dosages that we use them for. We therefore base knowledge more on user accounts.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Nov. 29 2004 8:50:53
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wannabemuscleguy
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ok well do you have any personal testimonies on roughly how much?
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Nov. 29 2004 9:44:56
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I would estimate it to raise metabolic rate by around 12-15%.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 2 2004 10:04:21
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hey partyboy what makes T3 so catabolic? and will i not gain as much muscle if i do a cycle of test ena with it? so basically will the T3 slow down the results of muscle anobolism when taking test ena as opposed to taking the test with out it?
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 2 2004 18:54:25
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Considerable increases in metabolic rate, thermalgenisis and oxidative phosphorylation uncoupling are responsible for muscle catabolism. If sufficient calories are not consumed (and there won't be as we are cutting!) then catabolism will ensue.
As for taking gear, as you are talking about muscular gains, then I would have to conclude that you won't be "cutting". The idea of shedding bodyfat would give rise to the idea of calorie restriction and cardio - this will make mass gains very difficult.
T3 however is anabolic if used in a different manner. As we know, it increases metabolic rate. Therefore, if we used it to increase our metabolic rate (and thus protein utilization/turnover), without raising it to such an extent that the rate exceeds the calorie/protein intakes, we can increase the rate of anabolism. In this example, a dosage of 25-50mcg ed would be ideal.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 2 2004 23:03:17
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ok i know you wrote out a 8 and 6 week cycle for T3 at the beginning of this thread so how will it change if you take just like you explaine, meaning lowering the dosages??
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 3 2004 14:44:17
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It would be very similar, though obviously the upper limit wouldn't be anywhere near as high as 125mcg. I would still recommend the slow taper down when coming off.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 7 2004 9:45:15
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Hey PB im about to get a hold of some T3 and clen, im gunna use both of them at different times to see which one works better. i just want to know is it possible to get down to a very low BF like 6% without those drugs or will it just take longer? and i have had people take clen so i am aware of what it makes you feel like, but what is the T3 going to make me feel like?
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 7 2004 14:32:44
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Yes, it's certainly possible to attain good condition without T3 or clen - I've gone sub 8% quite a few times in the past with just ECA for company, though it can be a long, hard slog.
I find Clen sides much worse than T3. The most common sides for T3 (if they are experienced at all) would include sweating, nervousness & tremors, rapid heart beat, fatigue.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 10 2004 11:01:55
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is the tapering up and down of T3 the only way to make it work? and is there anything that i need to stay away from when im on it, i.e., certain drugs (not bad ones). also how important is it to stay with that tapering cycle like you mentioned at the beginning? sorry for all the questions i just want to do it right and not hurt my body. thanks PB!!!
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 10 2004 11:10:32
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is the tapering up and down of T3 the only way to make it work?
What do you mean by work? T3 will exert an effect on your body whether you taper or not. Tapering is a safety measure.
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and is there anything that i need to stay away from when im on it, i.e., certain drugs (not bad ones).
What specifically did you have in mind?
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so how important is it to stay with that tapering cycle like you mentioned at the beginning?
Very. Though not quite as important as the slow taper down.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 10 2004 11:40:53
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for my first question i was talking about its effectivness. sorry mate!!
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 20 2004 10:45:25
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hey PB how will you know if you burned out your thyroid from the T3 supplement if just by chance something goes wrong?
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Dec. 20 2004 10:57:40
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You will experience hypothyoidism. Symptoms incluse:
Fatigue
Weakness
Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight
Coarse, dry hair
Dry, rough pale skin
Hair loss
Cold intolerance (can't tolerate the cold like those around you)
Muscle cramps and frequent muscle aches
Constipation
Depression
Irritability
Memory loss
Abnormal menstrual cycles
Decreased libido
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Jan. 10 2005 3:50:57
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if you already know that max amount of T3 you can handle is there reason to taper up? thanks mate!!!
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Jan. 10 2005 11:03:43
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Yes, you don't want to 'shock' your thyroid.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Jan. 10 2005 23:38:29
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Great thread this has become regarding T3 excellent info from PB as usual
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages - Jan. 11 2005 8:30:57
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is there any reason i wouldnt have found t3 more effective than clen?
the reason i ask is i ran WG's t3 cycle throughout the summer (8weeks) to little or no effect, however since i have run 2 x clen cycles and had great loss.
both were run on an identical diet (200 above maint.).
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