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RE: Clenbuterol - Nov. 30 2004 18:07:45
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PartyBoy
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Clenbuterol induced muscle hypertrophy (including the heart) have been shown to occur in numerous animal studies.
I would be interested to see conclusive human data.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 11 2004 23:39:46
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Hi Partyboy, this is a quality post - any chance it can be added to the articles section at the top of the forum?
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 12 2004 12:56:12
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The problem with the articles bro is that people never look at them! Vets/mods will provide links to articles when appropriate from people's questions.
In contrast - 'stickys' are prominant in the relevant forums, so hopefully they are viewed therefore avoiding the most common questions being asked 10 times in a week!
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 12 2004 18:08:45
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Ha ha I see your point, cheers mate. I think I will take this opportunity to have another read of the articles cause I bet theres useful stuff I have missed out on!
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 16 2004 23:38:20
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Partyboy, i had a question about the amount of Clen to use. I understand the stacking of 1 on day 1 2 on day 2 etc up to 140mcg a day, but after the two week layoff doing ECA, when I return to the next 2 week cycle of Clen do I start over at 1 20mcg pill on day one, etc... or do i just go back to the 7 pills a day for the next two weeks? Does that make sense?
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 17 2004 7:21:02
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Hi Texan, yes the question makes sense though thereis no definitive answer. Some people will start the next set of 2 weeks at the level that they finished the previous one, without a taper up. This is fine if as an individual you are very tolerant of the sides. Personally, I like to resume a little lower, so when I finish on 7 tabs, I will resume at 4 or 5 and build up again from there.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 19 2004 1:58:55
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Partyboy, awesome! Thanks, that is exactly what i meant. I sat here reading what i wrote not sure I was even making sense to myslef, but that's what i was trying to ask. Thanks, if i do a Clen/ECA turn here I will taper down a bit when i resume after my two week off period. I am still not sure if i want to try doing this or whether i should spend a better chunck of time trying to gain before cutting up.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 19 2004 21:33:49
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Hi PB,
what is the best dose for ketotifen while on Clen?
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 19 2004 21:58:54
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2-3mg ed should be plenty. Higher dosages tend to cause drowsyness and dry-mouth. Be aware that clen dosages should be reduced by around 25%.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 21 2004 11:49:28
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Partyboy when on Clen is water retention an issue. I am on my second week of Clen where I tappered up to 120mgs but I look like I am retaining water. I drink around 4-5ltrs a day. Could it be something else.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 21 2004 18:23:28
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Never heard of this being a complaint bro.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 22 2004 22:00:43
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ive been using clen for a few days and before that ephedrine for 2 weeks
i have to say, this is so awesome :) im 4 stones overweight and lost a stone which was bad too quick in a week with ephedrine but now use clen instead, it helped quiet alot and i hear it dont loose muscle but fat only.
i can see my muscles underneath the fat again, looks nice and cut up :) God willing i wish i can loose 3 stones before february
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 25 2004 1:25:41
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right first off let me congrat party boy on his article, its very gd. now im 17 gunna start useing clen tabs in about 3 or 4 months gunna cut aswell as bulking at the same time. now before anyone stats a quick remark to "nooo dont do it mate its gear" you actually wrong clen only had the same compound structure as a steroid yet it will not have an impact on my hormone levels wot so ever. as for side effects im fuly aware of all of them. i must state that i will not use steroids till im older enough so need need to worry.
my plan for a cycle will be 2 weeks on\2 weeks off. not to sure weather its adviserble to do an eca stack aswell but herd quite alot of people hve got adicted to using eca. ***Sorry bro - no source/price discussion.***
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 25 2004 4:32:40
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I'm just wondering how effective cutting with Clen is, in a more long term sense. What I mean is, if I go on a bulking cycle after using clen, am I just gonna put all the fat I just lost back on? Should I just keep bulking until I reach my final goal of 250lbs (I'm 185lbs now)? Or is it possible for me to get rid of any excess fat and then keep bulking but staying lean with only minor if any fat gains?
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 25 2004 12:43:38
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quote:
ORIGINAL: jackamo
my plan for a cycle will be 2 weeks on\2 weeks off. not to sure weather its adviserble to do an eca stack aswell but herd quite alot of people hve got adicted to using eca. ***Sorry bro - no source/price discussion.***
ECA dependance usually occurs from chronic long term usage. It is unlikely to be a problem from a 2 week on, 2 off basis.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 25 2004 12:53:17
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Legion
if I go on a bulking cycle after using clen, am I just gonna put all the fat I just lost back on?
You will regain lost bodyfat if your calorie intake exceeds your calorie needs. It's similar to when 'regular' people go on a 'diet' (i hate that word when used in this sense). They generally lose weight whilst on the diet. If they re-adjust their eating habits to match their caloric needs, they will maintain their lower bodyfat level. However, if they simply go back to their old eating/activity regime, it stands to reason that the weight will simply be regained.
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Should I just keep bulking until I reach my final goal of 250lbs (I'm 185lbs now)?
That's your personal decision. If you're happy with your current %BF level, then there's no particular reason to 'cut'.
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Or is it possible for me to get rid of any excess fat and then keep bulking but staying lean with only minor if any fat gains?
Very possible. 'Bulking' needn't mean gobbling everything in sight as though there was to be an impending food shortage. You can be in a 'mass gaining' phase by consuming sufficiently to encourage new growth without going overboard which will inevitably lead to excess fat storage.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 26 2004 14:27:58
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cheers party boy just wonderd wot sort of dosage i should take though most people have told me to start on a low dose any ideas?
p.s. yeh sorry didnt know if u where alowed to discuss where to buy stuff
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 26 2004 19:42:55
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Dosing schedules are outlined at the start of this thread bro.
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 26 2004 22:58:09
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so correct me if im wrong yeh bro but if i do a 2 week on 2week off on clen i just take on clen tab aday? also is it asential and needed to take Ketotifen?
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RE: Clenbuterol - Dec. 27 2004 11:27:27
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You take 1 tab on day 1, 2 tabs on day 2, 3 tabs on day 3 etc.... This is explained in detail here:
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_165419/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm
Not essential at all to use ketotifen
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