Just been looking at Genetic SD by Genetic Edge from Muscle Finesse. Read that SD is quite umpleasant to take & M1T is better.

Anyone know which is best for strength only & no weight gain. How do these compare with the likes of anavar?

Do a search I'm pretty sure you'll find people here have found it the other way around

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Status: offline Depending on what you are after, though by the two you have picked, im assuming its mass, and your not worried about excessive bloat.

If its alot of weight and strength in the quickest amount of time, say a 3-4 week period then i would go for SD, but i personally found Supedrol an unpleasant experience.

I personally found M1T a much more easier going oral than SD or DBol, with less sides and bloating, but as much strength gained.

different people respond differently to various compounds.

Just beacuse he found M1t to be 'easier going' doesn't mean you will.

There's a guy over at anabolicminds (think it's supersoldier) who has done bloodwork before and after with various compounds. He describes M1t as "anabolic poison". Enough said

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Fair enough!

Any recommendations for strength gains without weight gains? So far, though expensive, anavar seems favourite.

my post from another thread:

from the reviews i've read. The best mild strength/hardening agent is probably going to be:

finigenx
Tren-Xtreme
Testraflex
Tren-X

all of the above have the same compound, just depends on which one you can get hold of

It is not methylated, and is 'mild'. Have Nolva at hand though just in case, there have been a few symptoms of gyno (small %age)

That being said. This is either a love it or hate it compound. Some people repost an increase on major lifts upto 30kg! For some it does next to nothing

minimum of 90mg ED from what i gather

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cheers for that I'll take a look.

If u're in the UK then the 'cheapest' i've found is to buy 'testraflex' (90 30mg caps) from bodybuilding.com. Shipping is only $10 (about a fiver atm)

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Yeah, i frequently say"I have found" which is me just saying its just how i react to it.

My brother ended up with no balls and acne on his calves the size of small ping pong balls when he took M1T AT 15mg a day, and i had very little shrinkage, no acne, and a lean(ish) gain of about 10-15lbs in 4 weeks with M1T on 30mg ED.

Same with Ephedrine, i can take 200mg a day and just feel normal, while ive saw people end up curled up shaking in a dark room after 25mg tabs
Superdrol kicked in much quicker, at about 2-3 days i was up 6lbs, which was nice, though rather scary, but after 2 weeks, had no sex drive, was snapping at everyone, couldnt walk for more than 5mins before having to stop due to excessive back and shink pain, and generally felt quite fed up on it.

TBH, neither will increase strength with no weight gain, both can and do cause bloating and i would consider neither a cutting "steroid"

Never taken Anavar myself, but from what ive been told by friends, it would be more ideal for your situation, and more than likely safer too, though probably with less strength gains.

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Cheers for that Redemption.

I have heard that anavar is very popular with martial artists. Good for strength with no bloat. So bloody expensive though!

not to mention hard to get hold of (from a reputable supplier)

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Sounds like best option is weetabix!!!!

or better yet: oatibix

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oatibix?? Hmmmm.....



What are the sides????

Anyone know anything about this?
http://www.musclefinesse.com/fast-action-nutrapharma-d-stianozol.asp

a lot of people have bad sides with phera-plex (or its clones). It is for mass and strength

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Looks rather contradictory to me

It is not out of the question for users to pack on 10-15lbs or more in a 3-4 week cycle of D-STiANOZOL

D-STiANOZOL has been tested by subjects who compete in powerlifting and didn’t want to increase their weight too much as they compete at a certain weight class

hmmmmm

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Any recommendations for strength gains without weight gains? So far, though expensive, anavar seems favourite.

Halotestin (fluoxymesterone) is popular amonst power lifters who want to gain strength without going up a weight catagory. Be warned that it is considerably hepatotoxic, although so are M1T and superdrol for that matter.

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Cheers sonicology. I'll look into it.

Just found this:
With the exception of perhaps anadrol, Halotestin is the single most dangerous steroid to use. Its liver toxicity is unrivaled and you wouldn't be the first person to end up in the hospital with jaundice and dangerously elevated liver values after a hefty cycle of fluoxymesterone. My question has often been simply "Why?".

Holy sh*t. You've really got to want it bad to use halotestin.