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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 18 2008 20:53:27
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Batman
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I'm about that height too, no matter how much weight I lose I keep feeling like I need to lose more and I'm trying to get an idea of how much I need to get down to. At the end of the day it's the mirror that will give me the results I want not the scales but I'd like to get an idea of how long I'll need to keep going for.
Do you feel like you had much muscle before starting weight loss or do you feel you lost any on the way down?
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 18 2008 21:05:53
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before i started i had no muscle as i never trained except many many years ago. and that wasnt correctly.
about 3 years ago one day i began loosing weight, i think i just cut the crap out. lost a few stones and then it stalled at about 15st. after a while again it started dropping and i began doing spinning classes and lost another stone or so. i was happy with that but someone kept banging on about BBing and after a while i wanted to try it out.
i got a basic diet sorted, got a basic training routine written down and one day changed it all completley. i went into BBing over night you could say. the basic diet helped a while and then i paid one of the nutrionists here to make me a diet. i think i went from about 13.5-14 to 12.5 in 3 months. thats doing fasted CV 5-6 times a week and 3 day weight training program.
i went down to a 34" trousers and they were baggy and which time i was advised to stop and start bulking.
you weigh 17st right? be wary with the mirrors. going from a weight like that gives you a lot of loose and soft skin which makes you look flabby when you arnt.
ive put on about 2st now in around 3.5 months, im still in 34" trousers but ive gained it too quickly. another thing to be wary of from being previously over weight. youre more likely to store it again. for example if you goto 13st, and someone else is 13st who wasnt previously overweight, you couldnt eat the same amount of carbs ive found. i think if youre fitting comfortably into a 34" trousers youve lost enough.
what are you eating atm?
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 18 2008 21:24:16
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before i started i had no muscle as i never trained except many many years ago. and that wasnt correctly.
about 3 years ago one day i began loosing weight, i think i just cut the crap out. lost a few stones and then it stalled at about 15st. after a while again it started dropping and i began doing spinning classes and lost another stone or so. i was happy with that but someone kept banging on about BBing and after a while i wanted to try it out.
i got a basic diet sorted, got a basic training routine written down and one day changed it all completley. i went into BBing over night you could say. the basic diet helped a while and then i paid one of the nutrionists here to make me a diet. i think i went from about 13.5-14 to 12.5 in 3 months. thats doing fasted CV 5-6 times a week and 3 day weight training program.
i went down to a 34" trousers and they were baggy and which time i was advised to stop and start bulking.
you weigh 17st right? be wary with the mirrors. going from a weight like that gives you a lot of loose and soft skin which makes you look flabby when you arnt.
ive put on about 2st now in around 3.5 months, im still in 34" trousers but ive gained it too quickly. another thing to be wary of from being previously over weight. youre more likely to store it again. for example if you goto 13st, and someone else is 13st who wasnt previously overweight, you couldnt eat the same amount of carbs ive found. i think if youre fitting comfortably into a 34" trousers youve lost enough.
what are you eating atm?
You seem to of done really good with losing it. You look pretty defined in your avatar you can see your shoulder and back muscles well. I think my diet's pretty good, I posted it in the diet section a little while ago here: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_2472200/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2472200 I've upped the calories a bit though, mostly through fats. I haven't added any more carbs than what you see there just more seeds/nuts and swapped some chicken for tinned mackerel.
I over-estimated my weight slightly. At my last weigh-in - which was Saturday morning - I was 15st 5lbs. However I got drunk on Saturday night and have eaten almost none stop since then and I would estimate (I don't wanna look) I'm probably 10lbs heavier through carbs holding water. That's something you're certainly right about, I just have to look at a carb and I blow up. I'm getting back on track tomorrow though.
I do fasted AM cardio which is just fast-walking about 4 miles in about 45-50 minutes 5 mornings a week. I do three full-body routines a week and go on a few jogs in the PM, usually just light-slow jogging.
The weight does seem to be flying off but like you say I think my skin is really lose. Does it shrink in eventually? Yours doesn't look loose in that pic but I guess it could be worse in other areas. For me it would be my belly as that's where all my weight goes. I'm hoping I don't have that there forever.
I'm jealous of the position you're in, I hate how my training suffers a bit through lowers calories and I'm gagging to start a mass-building routine/split and do a clean bulk but I have to shift what fat I have first.
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 18 2008 21:58:50
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my skin is loose on the stomach and lower back imo, and thats where the fat goes for me.
maybe try carb cycling if loss is stalling?
you just gotta keep plugging at it, and changing to keep it working!
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 19 2008 15:09:02
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week 28
delts/tris
db press
8x18
8x20
6x22
behind neck press/db lat raises
7x30/8x10
8x30/7x8
7x30/7x8
db floor press
8x18
8x20
8x20
5x22
french press
8x10
7x14
8x12
push down
8x50
7x55
8x55
8x55
cable lat raises
10x5kg
8x10kg
4x15kg
slowly but surely gettin back in the game!
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 20 2008 21:24:17
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Some fantastic progress there! keep at it and you'll be deadlifting serious weights before you know it!
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 21 2008 12:43:57
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week 28
squat
5x105
5x110
5x115
5x120
5x127.5
hack squats
15x60
15x65
leg extensions
2 minutes - 10kg
2 minutes -12.5kg
leg curls
12x40
8x45
8x45
leg press calf raises
toes forward
15x185.5
11x190.5
8x198
toes out
11x185.5
9x190.5
10x198
only a minor dull headache today, anti inflamatory should take care of it.
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 21 2008 16:43:37
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db floor press
why floor presses mate ?
impressive squatting
good to see you're back in the gym
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 21 2008 16:48:57
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Cos he copies everything i do 
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 21 2008 16:53:49
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db floor press
why floor presses mate ?
impressive squatting
good to see you're back in the gym
what AK said. i always have copied him and so far im out squatting him and nearly deadlifting the same weight in half the time 
seemed to work ok mind, my triceps were tight the day after, or should i not use this as an indication? what would you recommend raj?
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 21 2008 17:03:16
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Ak has trouble with his elbows, hence the partials
personally i'd go
cgbp
dips
pull downs (if you can be bothered)
if you prefer floor presses
cgbp
floor presses
pull downs (as above )
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what AK said. i always have copied him and so far im out squatting him and nearly deadlifting the same weight in half the time
if and when you beat his lifts
gloat repulsively
no slacking tho
his lifts are moving along nicely
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 21 2008 17:06:26
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yes i know hes doing well, just joking about with him 
cheers raj. cant say i like dips that much now as my shoulders are always totally done in from the pressing anyway.
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 23 2008 14:20:57
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week 28
chest/bi
on beta blockers now which is very odd, because my breathing or heart rate doesnt increase at all! got tired quite easy but i managed to keep pushing through
flat db bench
5x26
5x26
5x28
5x28
5x30
incline db bench
5x20
5x24
5x26
5x26
5x28
manchine chest press
8x49
dropset
10x35
bb curls
12x15
10x20
8x25
4x30
standing hammer curls
10x12
6x12
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 25 2008 21:46:01
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** Routine 1:
Pull-up retraction
Barbell overhead shrugs
Rear delt stretch (arm across chest)
** Routine 2:
Band external rotations
Band pull aparts
Band dislocates
** Routine 3:
Scapular retractions (on seated row machine)
Push-up plus
Standing pec stretch
** Routine 4:
Incline DB Retraction
Prone YTWLs
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 26 2008 19:27:14
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week 29 back
deadlift
5x147.5
5x152.5
5x157.5
4x160
4x162.5
wooah, getting back in the game!
bb row
8x50
8x55
?x57.5 < i took my sheet in the shower by mistake
6x57.5
cable row
11x100
11x105
10x110
10x110
wide grip pull down
9x56
7x63
7x63
7x63
150 > 157 > 165
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 26 2008 19:29:57
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week 29 shoulder/tris
seated bb sp
8x30
10x35
8x35
8x35
right shoulder is iffy, so not the best
behind neck press/lat raises
6x30/8x8
5x30/7x8
7x25/7x8
smith cgbp
9x30
boring, and hurt my shoulder!
db floor presses
8x20
9x20
8x22
8x24
10x20
9x20
9x20
fun!
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 26 2008 19:33:24
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i do 5x100kg to get my stance sorted out
thanks btw
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 28 2008 21:09:27
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week 29 legs
squats
5x110
5x115
5x120
5x125
5x130
hack squats
15x62.5
15x67
leg extensions - 2 minutes
12.5
15
leg curls per leg
12x40
10x42
8x45
6x47.5
calf press
14x190
10x197.5
9x202.5
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RE: tris's journal - Feb. 29 2008 18:39:28
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week 29 chest
flat db bench
10x24
10x24
7x28
7x28
5x28
10x24
incline db bench
10x24
7x24
6x24
6x26
7x26
5x24
cable curls
12x35
10x40
8x45
6x50
cable hammer curls
10x35
9x40
concentration curl
8x12
7x14
had an extremely painful headache from the start which put me off 
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