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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 12 2008 22:36:59
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whatcanisayimste
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yea thats another thing the hormones and vacines that they pump into them,
its not really a problem if you dont eat that much chicken but when your eating chicken in such large quantitys it may be a problem,
do u mix water or milk with your protien shakes?
because you have like 4 a day, so that like 4 pints of milk, if u do use milk,
as im starting out how much whey shakes do you reckon i should have?
sorry for all the noob questions btw
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 14:49:56
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I would ease into taking whey if I was you as it leaves your stomach upset for the first few weeks and you will be farting constantly.
Dont drink it on an empty stomach at first either as this can leave you a little sick at first.
Start with two sevrings a day. Then push it up to 3 on workout days. Its all up to you, don't rely on it too much, make sure you are getting what you from solid food aswell. 1-2g of protein for every lb in your body weight.
I don't like milk so I take unflavoured whey and mix it in organge juice.
I put two servings in half a pint of orange juice. Abit thick but I'm used to the taste now.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 15:49:21
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Hey Jack,
Good going mate, if only i had the consistency you have when i was 17  .
I noticed you eat alot of chicken, since it can be quite pricey just though i'd give you the heads up if you havent tried it of either
Iceland Diced & Cooked chicken - £3.50 for 1KG (Cheaper than icelands fresh stuff which is around £5.50 a KG raw - So less than the cooked stuff).
Also if youve not tried it yet, TVP - Go to tesco "Whole foods" 375g clear plastic bag for £99p.
Has 50g protein for 100g of it dry, add milk and sugar and it tastes kinda like cereal its decent.
Keep it up mate,
RS.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 16:18:49
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PUSH (Max Strength)
Will be doing shoulders on friday.
Clap Push Ups - 2x12 (warm up)
Bench:
80kg - 5x3
Inc Bench:
65kg - 3x4
CGBP:
55kg - 3x5
Bench Dips:
BW+22kg - 8
BW+24kg - 2x8
Abs:
Weighted sit ups
Weighted Crunches
Hanging straight leg raises
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 16:21:53
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Hey Jack,
Good going mate, if only i had the consistency you have when i was 17 .
I noticed you eat alot of chicken, since it can be quite pricey just though i'd give you the heads up if you havent tried it of either
Iceland Diced & Cooked chicken - £3.50 for 1KG (Cheaper than icelands fresh stuff which is around £5.50 a KG raw - So less than the cooked stuff).
Also if youve not tried it yet, TVP - Go to tesco "Whole foods" 375g clear plastic bag for £99p.
Has 50g protein for 100g of it dry, add milk and sugar and it tastes kinda like cereal its decent.
Keep it up mate,
RS.
Yep I sometimes get my ready cooked tikka from there. Try to keep away from processed food though so wouldn't want it to be a large part of my diet. Abit every now and then is fine though.
What exactly is TVP, a type of protein powerd? Highest protein to weight ratio I've ever seen. I don't like milk but I may try it with something else seeing it's so cheap.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 21:07:56
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I would ease into taking whey if I was you as it leaves your stomach upset for the first few weeks and you will be farting constantly.
Dont drink it on an empty stomach at first either as this can leave you a little sick at first.
Start with two sevrings a day. Then push it up to 3 on workout days. Its all up to you, don't rely on it too much, make sure you are getting what you from solid food aswell. 1-2g of protein for every lb in your body weight.
I don't like milk so I take unflavoured whey and mix it in organge juice.
I put two servings in half a pint of orange juice. Abit thick but I'm used to the taste now.
so if im 11 stone which i am (154pounds) , 300 Grams of protien ?
i think ive had just over that today not including shake,
this is what iv done today
12th of may, tuesday
Breakfast -10.50
one bowl of oatmeal, with hemp seeds, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds,and sunflower seeds mixed in ,
10 blueberrys , 6 large strawberrys , one bannana, orange juice
1oclock
- Chicken breast, raw mushrooms/redpeppers in brown pitta bread
3oclock
- Chicken breast, raw mushrooms/redpeppers in brown pitta bread
4 oclock - warm up skipping-
4.30-6ish
weighted crunches 2.5 kg
5, 5 ,5, 4, 4
straight leg deadlift- form needed and hamstrings are tight.
back squats
20kg -(starting out ridiculously light to find form)
6-7.30
chicken casarole - onions mushrooms redpeppers carrots chicken
2 peices of brown bread
1 whey protein shake/bananna blended
in your opinion
should i wait before starting to use creatine?
or is there no harm just starting now
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 21:47:19
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Hey Jack,
Good going mate, if only i had the consistency you have when i was 17 .
I noticed you eat alot of chicken, since it can be quite pricey just though i'd give you the heads up if you havent tried it of either
Iceland Diced & Cooked chicken - £3.50 for 1KG (Cheaper than icelands fresh stuff which is around £5.50 a KG raw - So less than the cooked stuff).
Also if youve not tried it yet, TVP - Go to tesco "Whole foods" 375g clear plastic bag for £99p.
Has 50g protein for 100g of it dry, add milk and sugar and it tastes kinda like cereal its decent.
Keep it up mate,
RS.
Yep I sometimes get my ready cooked tikka from there. Try to keep away from processed food though so wouldn't want it to be a large part of my diet. Abit every now and then is fine though.
What exactly is TVP, a type of protein powerd? Highest protein to weight ratio I've ever seen. I don't like milk but I may try it with something else seeing it's so cheap.
Alright fella, TVP - Textured Vegetable Protein. Heres some more info and recipies http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_2396309/mpage_1/key_tvp/tm.htm# Im gonna get some this week and try it out 
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 22:38:22
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I would ease into taking whey if I was you as it leaves your stomach upset for the first few weeks and you will be farting constantly.
Dont drink it on an empty stomach at first either as this can leave you a little sick at first.
Start with two sevrings a day. Then push it up to 3 on workout days. Its all up to you, don't rely on it too much, make sure you are getting what you from solid food aswell. 1-2g of protein for every lb in your body weight.
I don't like milk so I take unflavoured whey and mix it in organge juice.
I put two servings in half a pint of orange juice. Abit thick but I'm used to the taste now.
so if im 11 stone which i am (154pounds) , 300 Grams of protien ?
i think ive had just over that today not including shake,
this is what iv done today
12th of may, tuesday
Breakfast -10.50
one bowl of oatmeal, with hemp seeds, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds,and sunflower seeds mixed in ,
10 blueberrys , 6 large strawberrys , one bannana, orange juice
1oclock
- Chicken breast, raw mushrooms/redpeppers in brown pitta bread
3oclock
- Chicken breast, raw mushrooms/redpeppers in brown pitta bread
4 oclock - warm up skipping-
4.30-6ish
weighted crunches 2.5 kg
5, 5 ,5, 4, 4
straight leg deadlift- form needed and hamstrings are tight.
back squats
20kg -(starting out ridiculously light to find form)
6-7.30
chicken casarole - onions mushrooms redpeppers carrots chicken
2 peices of brown bread
1 whey protein shake/bananna blended
in your opinion
should i wait before starting to use creatine?
or is there no harm just starting now
Looks good mate. Well 1-2g is just an estimate. You don't want to be going lower than 1g and it's not ideal to go above 2g for a number of reason. Over eating, resulting in too much fat put on, wasted food etc..
I would go a few months without creatine. I do not have detailed scientific knowledge of how creatine works but I know that the body produceses its own creatine which will help with lifting. It's all about increased water/blood flow to the muscle. You want your body to produce this itself astleast when starting out. You are a beginer so will have a few months just getting form good on all the exercises, learning new things every session. People who have been training for years still learn things they didn't know just by feeling how the body works as they lift the weight. Make sure you take it in cycles. Long term use of creatine with out breaks will result in your body being less sufficient at producing it's own creatine and you will rely some what on it for a good work out.
Post up your lifting routine.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 22:43:49
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Hey Jack,
Good going mate, if only i had the consistency you have when i was 17 .
I noticed you eat alot of chicken, since it can be quite pricey just though i'd give you the heads up if you havent tried it of either
Iceland Diced & Cooked chicken - £3.50 for 1KG (Cheaper than icelands fresh stuff which is around £5.50 a KG raw - So less than the cooked stuff).
Also if youve not tried it yet, TVP - Go to tesco "Whole foods" 375g clear plastic bag for £99p.
Has 50g protein for 100g of it dry, add milk and sugar and it tastes kinda like cereal its decent.
Keep it up mate,
RS.
Yep I sometimes get my ready cooked tikka from there. Try to keep away from processed food though so wouldn't want it to be a large part of my diet. Abit every now and then is fine though.
What exactly is TVP, a type of protein powerd? Highest protein to weight ratio I've ever seen. I don't like milk but I may try it with something else seeing it's so cheap.
Alright fella, TVP - Textured Vegetable Protein. Heres some more info and recipies http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_2396309/mpage_1/key_tvp/tm.htm# Im gonna get some this week and try it out
Thanks Riocat, I'll have a good read of all of that tomorrow.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 23:11:46
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TODAY
A few days of cutting under my belt plus abit of a tan and I already look leaner. It may just be down to the tan but I either way it's encouraging. Just started reading UD2 (The ultimate diet 2) which was recomended to my be The Iopener as being a great way to cut down to sub 10%, my goal being 8%. I am only a few pages through so havn't started it yet. Good read so far though.
Meal 1: Chicken sandwhich, double whey shake/l-leucine
Meal 2: Chicken tikka sandwhich
Meal 3: Chicken + potatoes
Workout - Highlight was benching 80kg - 5x3.
Meal 4: Double whey shake, multi vits, omega caps
Meal 5: Chicken + potatoes
Meal 6: A chicken breast + double whey shake
Cardio - 20 mins skipping
Meal 7: Whey shake
8 Fruit today.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 23:21:03
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this is me and my friends current routine
DAY 1 � PULL
Deadlifts or Power Cleans
Dumbbell Rows,
Barbell Curls,
DAY 2 � PUSH
Flat Barbell Press
Dumbbell Shoulder Presses
Close Grip Bench Press
DAY 3 � LEGS
Back Squats
Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlifts
Weighted Crunches
to be honest tho
i have Really bad form when it comes to squats and deadlifts especialy, i really
need a mirror in my dining room (where i have my bench n bag n shizzle)
i keep bending my back or doing it wrong,
im sure ill get it in time,
i was advised to start with the basic push pull legs.
and yea i think ill heed your advice and go on the creatine in 2 month, when ive got
a more stuctured routine , and im more confident with it n stuffs
and as for the diet, ive got it nailed, (even tho i practialy ripped off yours)
but seems to have worked well for you, so
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 23:25:25
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jack, how far in advance do you cook ur chicken?
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 23:30:56
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ORIGINAL: whatcanisayimste
this is me and my friends current routine
DAY 1 � PULL
Deadlifts or Power Cleans
Dumbbell Rows,
Barbell Curls,
DAY 2 � PUSH
Flat Barbell Press
Dumbbell Shoulder Presses
Close Grip Bench Press
DAY 3 � LEGS
Back Squats
Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlifts
Weighted Crunches
to be honest tho
i have Really bad form when it comes to squats and deadlifts especialy, i really
need a mirror in my dining room (where i have my bench n bag n shizzle)
i keep bending my back or doing it wrong,
im sure ill get it in time,
i was advised to start with the basic push pull legs.
and yea i think ill heed your advice and go on the creatine in 2 month, when ive got
a more stuctured routine , and im more confident with it n stuffs
and as for the diet, ive got it nailed, (even tho i practialy ripped off yours)
but seems to have worked well for you, so
Routine looks good. A few pointers though:
- Don't even bother with power cleans untill you are deadlifting with alot of confidence. It is an extremely technical lift and for people to get right needs to be taught by a coach. Once your deadlifts are looking good you can try out some light ones though.
- Vid yourself doing deadlifts and then post them up on here. That's what I did and got alot of help. Vid every single set. I actualy vid all my sets on bench, military press, deadlifts, squat, power cleans and even chins. Watch them back and try and work on form. I know what I correct lift looks like and so have a pretty good idea of what I need to do to improve my form. Watch some vids on youtube of people lifting. There are plently of vids which teach you correct form aswell.
- Keep deadlifts and squats light untill you have your vids approved on here or your happy they look good compared to other vids you watch on youtube.
- What is your main goal, size/asthetics or strength?
- What rep sceme/set sceme will you be using? If you want size - (I'm guessing you will have been told to do 3x8) As you are only doing 3 exercises per workout I would do 5 set on each though. Or alteast after a month.
That routine looks good for now though.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 23:32:21
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jack, how far in advance do you cook ur chicken?
Atm I am cooking a big load at about 6 when I have my 'dinner'. This is enough for quite a few meals and lasts till 'dinner' the next day.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 13 2008 23:39:15
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ORIGINAL: whatcanisayimste
this is me and my friends current routine
DAY 1 � PULL
Deadlifts or Power Cleans
Dumbbell Rows,
Barbell Curls,
DAY 2 � PUSH
Flat Barbell Press
Dumbbell Shoulder Presses
Close Grip Bench Press
DAY 3 � LEGS
Back Squats
Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlifts
Weighted Crunches
to be honest tho
i have Really bad form when it comes to squats and deadlifts especialy, i really
need a mirror in my dining room (where i have my bench n bag n shizzle)
i keep bending my back or doing it wrong,
im sure ill get it in time,
i was advised to start with the basic push pull legs.
and yea i think ill heed your advice and go on the creatine in 2 month, when ive got
a more stuctured routine , and im more confident with it n stuffs
and as for the diet, ive got it nailed, (even tho i practialy ripped off yours)
but seems to have worked well for you, so
Routine looks good. A few pointers though:
- Don't even bother with power cleans untill you are deadlifting with alot of confidence. It is an extremely technical lift and for people to get right needs to be taught by a coach. Once your deadlifts are looking good you can try out some light ones though.
- Vid yourself doing deadlifts and then post them up on here. That's what I did and got alot of help. Vid every single set. I actualy vid all my sets on bench, military press, deadlifts, squat, power cleans and even chins. Watch them back and try and work on form. I know what I correct lift looks like and so have a pretty good idea of what I need to do to improve my form. Watch some vids on youtube of people lifting. There are plently of vids which teach you correct form aswell.
- Keep deadlifts and squats light untill you have your vids approved on here or your happy they look good compared to other vids you watch on youtube.
- What is your main goal, size/asthetics or strength?
- What rep sceme/set sceme will you be using? If you want size - (I'm guessing you will have been told to do 3x8) As you are only doing 3 exercises per workout I would do 5 set on each though. Or alteast after a month.
That routine looks good for now though.
im not even attempting powerlifts i forgot to delete that when i copyd n pasted it from frankies ,
im doing 5 x 5
my goals, i want to get bigger (especialy my shoulders)
but i dont want the build of a body builder, i want slightly bit more built than athletic,
kinda exactly like your build actualy,
not out of proportion
shall i stick with 5 x5 then?
thats a brilliant idea, im actualy just about to invest in a Video camera, so ill get my deadlifts and squats posted up ASAP.
just need to george foreman some Sheeeeshen :D
brb
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 14 2008 20:10:31
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^^^^
Well I am currently writing a beginners article as a little fun project while I'm not bloody revising.
I havn't finished it but here is what I think of 5x5's for beginer:
Repetitions and Sets
There are an infinite number or sets/reps combination. Which one you use should be based on your goals and personal preference. The general belief in a basic form is as follows:
Maximum Size – 8-12 reps
Maximum Strength – 4-6 reps
Maximum Power – 1-3 reps
However as a complete beginner to lifting you should not be worrying about these for a while as there are much more important things you need to get your head around to first. I quite often see people just starting out and wanting to know what set/rep system to use. Of course the advise they will be given is down to their individual goals but I regularly see trainers advising the beginner and telling them to start with a 5x5 routine such as Bill Stars, Mark Rippetoe’s or Frankies. There are a number of reasons why working with 5 reps is not ideal for a complete beginner.
First of all someone who is new to lifting needs to learn correct form, not by watching others lift, but by actually practising an exercise over and over again. For this to be done properly a light weight must be used. You cannot develop good form with a heavy weight. Of course once you have learnt how to lift the weight correctly you can move onto heavier weights.
Well how hard can it be you ask? Well from being a member of a number of gyms I have seen people lifting with horrible form on both simple and complex exercises. As a beginner I had very little idea of what each exercise did let alone how to perform it to best target the muscle I am aiming to train. Your body will do all it can do get the weight up, using jerky, awkward movements which will develop bad habits and believe me, once these bad habits have set in they are bastard to get rid of. Going back and starting from scratch again with light weights in not very fun. You also risk injuring yourself, which for an eager beginner will be devastating and probably make them give up before they have even got started. Even with some experience, when moving from 8-12 reps to 5 reps I found it hard to get the weight right. Would I do 5 very heavy reps resulting in only two reps with good form or would I lower the weight and do 5 clean reps but feel as if I could bang out another 3 if I allowed my form to degrade slightly. So what about a light weight for 5 reps? Well the idea behind a 5x5 is that you use a heavy load. There is no point only lifting weight for 5 reps on all sets when you could easily bang out another 10 reps. Higher reps mean you do an exercise more times, resulting in you practicing it more and getting your form spot on.
So for anyone completely new to lifting, I recommend using lightweights with 10-12 reps for two months. It may seem like a long time but this is only 8 weight sessions and more technical lifts can take quite a while to master.
It's not fully proof read yet so there might be a few errors.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 14 2008 22:25:43
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TODAY
Finished my art A level exam today so nice to get that out of the way. Maths and graphics exams still to do.
Two things to do with bodybuilding:
Wrote a letter to a friend who is in jouvey prison for a year as his mum tells me he's got into body building since hes been in there. Should make a good pen pal for him and get him thinking posative. Also will be a great gym partner when he gets out as he's big lad, year below me aswell.
Also found out that my girlfriend step dad is an ex bodybuilder so should have something to chat to him about when I meet him.
Anyway..
(cutting)
Meal 1 - Chicken sandwhich, double whey/luecine shake
Meal 2 - chicken sandwhich
Meal 3 - Ceriel + double whey shake
Meal 4 - chicken sandwhich
Meal 5 - tripple whey shake + pasta
Cardio - 20 mins skipping/shadow boxing rounds
Meal 6 - whey shake + WATER MELON! (thanks mum)
8 fruit today
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 14 2008 22:27:20
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makes sense so far.
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 14 2008 22:31:52
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makes sense so far.
The article or my chicking cooking? 
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RE: JACK WANTS STRENGTH - Age 17 - LATEST PICS Pg.18! - May 14 2008 23:29:57
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Fuk me you eat alot of chicken, your mum must go mad!  Mine would lol.
See your doin A level maths, I am too it is solid and I needa somehow get out of it with an A for uni. 
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