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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 28 2008 19:06:20   
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Hi mate, thanks for posting in my journal. More than welcome to keep dropping by. Let me know how you get on with 5x5, I'm interested to hear about any concerns you may have or what your feedback of the routine is. I love 5x5, but have a niggle with it. Interested to hear your thoughts.

Looking in good shape mate. Will be interested to see how the cut goes, best of luck!

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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 28 2008 21:13:33   
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Hi mate, thanks for posting in my journal. More than welcome to keep dropping by. Let me know how you get on with 5x5, I'm interested to hear about any concerns you may have or what your feedback of the routine is. I love 5x5, but have a niggle with it. Interested to hear your thoughts.

Looking in good shape mate. Will be interested to see how the cut goes, best of luck!


Cheers mate

I've posted in your journal, let me know if I can help at all, have to say I'm liking the 5 x 5 so far though.


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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 28 2008 21:35:32   
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Tonights workout

Push

Incline BBBP bar only 1 x 10, 1 x 5 60 kg, 1 x 5 80 kg, 5 x 5 92.5 kg
Seated OH Press 1 x 5 40 kg, 5 x 5 60 kg
Tricep Dips 4 x 5, 1 x 4 BW + 25 kg

Happy with that, all weights up on previous week and only failed right at the end of the dips when my triceps were fooked
Inclines up to 95 kg next week
OH Press up to 65 kg next week
Dips up to BW + 26 kg next week (expecting to drop a couple of pounds of BW by then).



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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 29 2008 9:09:16   
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Hi mate,

All looking good - nice progressions.

Do you have the opportunity to weigh yourself before doing the B/W exercises (Dips, Chins) as you can then record an 'all-up' weight. I find this figure useful especially as my bodyweight/clothing can vary from one week to the next.

Or maybe I'm just a bit too fussy

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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 29 2008 9:34:28   
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Tonights workout

Push

Incline BBBP bar only 1 x 10, 1 x 5 60 kg, 1 x 5 80 kg, 5 x 5 92.5 kg
Seated OH Press 1 x 5 40 kg, 5 x 5 60 kg
Tricep Dips 4 x 5, 1 x 4 BW + 25 kg

Happy with that, all weights up on previous week and only failed right at the end of the dips when my triceps were fooked
Inclines up to 95 kg next week
OH Press up to 65 kg next week
Dips up to BW + 26 kg next week (expecting to drop a couple of pounds of BW by then).




Good progression! i can understand why your triceps were fooked lol


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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 29 2008 18:30:51   
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Hi mate,

All looking good - nice progressions.

Do you have the opportunity to weigh yourself before doing the B/W exercises (Dips, Chins) as you can then record an 'all-up' weight. I find this figure useful especially as my bodyweight/clothing can vary from one week to the next.

Or maybe I'm just a bit too fussy


Hi Sam

Yes, I can weigh myself in the gym and it may be something I start to do now I'm getting into this routine.
My clothing is normally the same but my BW can be a couple of kg either way too.

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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 29 2008 18:34:42   
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Tonights workout

Push

Incline BBBP bar only 1 x 10, 1 x 5 60 kg, 1 x 5 80 kg, 5 x 5 92.5 kg
Seated OH Press 1 x 5 40 kg, 5 x 5 60 kg
Tricep Dips 4 x 5, 1 x 4 BW + 25 kg

Happy with that, all weights up on previous week and only failed right at the end of the dips when my triceps were fooked
Inclines up to 95 kg next week
OH Press up to 65 kg next week
Dips up to BW + 26 kg next week (expecting to drop a couple of pounds of BW by then).




Good progression! i can understand why your triceps were fooked lol



Absolutely knackered mate, nearly fell into the dipping frame at the end with 25 kg round my neck
I'd only planned on using the 24 kg DB but someone was using them so I had to use plates, confident of the 26 kg DB next week though.


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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 29 2008 21:46:09   
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Tonights workout

Cardio

30 mins bike
30 mins rowing

First of many on the new cutting diet.


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RE: The 40 plus journal - Apr. 30 2008 22:23:43   
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Tonights training

Pull

Deads 1 x 10 bar only, 1 x 5 60 kg, 1 x 5 100 kg, 5 x 5 135 kg
Bent Over BB Rows 1 x 5 60 kg, 5 x 5 90 kg
WG Chins 5 x 5 BW + 4 kg
EZ Bar Curls 1 x 5 30 kg, 1 x 5 40 kg, 5 x 5 50 kg

Much better session than last week.
First 3 sets of deads done with overhand grip last 2 with over and under, up to 140 kg next week
Rows good but hard, up to 92.5 kg next week
Form was better on chins but not good enough to move up a weight
Curls were hard, almost failed at the end, up to 52.5 kg next week

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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 1 2008 18:46:00   
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Hi mate. Hows things? Can you explain the 5x5 workout to me vaguely please mate?

Do you do your cardio down the gym or do you have a bike and rower in the house?

Cheers mate

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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 1 2008 18:51:13   
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strong arms mate, mine are piss weak compared to yours

I also cannot do WG chins at BW, i can do narrow though

How you doing btw?

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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 1 2008 20:19:47   
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Hi mate. Hows things? Can you explain the 5x5 workout to me vaguely please mate?

Do you do your cardio down the gym or do you have a bike and rower in the house?

Cheers mate


Hi mate.

I started typing out what the 5 x 5 is but this explains it better than I was going to:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_8817/tm.htm

Like it so far.
It feels good to go back to basics and concentrate on strength for a bit.
Very simple to do and remember too.

I have a couple of bits in the house but I like to go to the gym for cardio.
It's a bit of a mentality thing for me where I can switch off to everything else once I'm there, also at £50 per month I like to get my monies worth

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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 1 2008 20:30:51   
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I've been bigging you up in the General forum so I thought I'd extend the compliments to you in your journal too.

The shot from the front (hands clenched) does the most justice to your improvement, your traps especially.

Considering the lack of training to get from where you were to where you are is also worthy of a mention.

If your progress continues in similar vein in the "Get Shredded" challenge then I'll expect to see some decent After shots in 3 months too.

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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 1 2008 21:21:21   
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strong arms mate, mine are piss weak compared to yours

I also cannot do WG chins at BW, i can do narrow though

How you doing btw?


I'm doing well thanks mate, hopefully in line for a promotion at work so fingers crossed.

I think I'll always be more of a pusher than a puller but I'm getting better at chins.
Keep at it, it wasn't too long ago that I couldn't do any chins at all let alone wide grip.
It's a bit of a joke that I can bench press more than I can squat but I'm working on it.



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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 1 2008 21:50:00   
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I've been bigging you up in the General forum so I thought I'd extend the compliments to you in your journal too.

The shot from the front (hands clenched) does the most justice to your improvement, your traps especially.

Considering the lack of training to get from where you were to where you are is also worthy of a mention.

If your progress continues in similar vein in the "Get Shredded" challenge then I'll expect to see some decent After shots in 3 months too.


Hi mate.

I've put a bit of fat back on since the end of the shape up as you can see from the recent pics but the diet hasn't been great so it's to be expected.
Personally I was more pleased with the front double bicep because it shows the fat I've lost from my chest/armpit area which is what I was after.

I agree with what you say though that it's so much easier to see someones progress when they're cutting as opposed to bulking.
I did comment in your journal at the time, I thought you made excellent progress.


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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 1 2008 22:26:46   
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It's a bit of a joke that I can bench press more than I can squat but I'm working on it


Same here, almost. It's only the last 6 weeks or so my squat has finally overtaken my bench. I've always struggled with squatting but after giving box squats a try since about February time, the weights been rocketing up.
I still struggle at normal back squats but as I go to the same depth each time on the box (almost parallel), I'll continue doing them that way.

How do your Squat v Bench figures stack up then?

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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 2 2008 16:53:29   
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Hard to say at the moment mate as I don't flat bench in the current routine but I did a 1RM 125 KG for flat bench just before Christmas.
I tried 130 straight after but was nowhere near.
It's nothing compared to a lot of people's but please remember I am an old, totally natty recovering alcoholic .
I'm having to use a Smith machine for squats but it's that or nothing, going for 110 kg 5 x 5 tonight, I didn't think I would be saying that a month ago.



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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 2 2008 21:16:24   
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125kg is possibly not as much as Mobster's 180kg bench, but then Mobster's is not as much as Jason Ellis' 240kg bench, which in turn is not as much as Martin Green and so on.

You're lifting more than you were previously so it's all going good. Can't ask for more than that.


So do you bench in the Smith Machine too or do you have an Oly bench for that? Squatting in the Smith for me has never been comparable to using an Oly bar so it's difficult to draw a true comparison. Providing the workload is increasing over time and you keep the booze in check and diet sorted, good things should come.

(I'd have thought 110kg 5x5 should equate to more than 125kg 1RM?)

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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 2 2008 22:42:29   
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No, the only thing I use the Smith for is squatting, like I say it's that or nothing, well leg press anyway, which for me dooesn't compare.
There's no squat rack or even stands and no chance of the gym getting any, I could move to a more hard core gym easily enough which would also be cheaper, but the good far outweighs the bad there.



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RE: The 40 plus journal - May 2 2008 23:39:21   
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Tonights workout

Legs

Squats (Smith Machine) 1 x 5 bar only, 1 x 5 40 kg, 1 x 5 80 kg, 110 kg x 5, 5, 5, 4, 3 (weights on bar)
SLDL 1 x 5 60 kg, 1 x 5 100 kg, 5 x 5 110 kg
Rope Crunches 5 x 12 32.5 kg

Had to fail on squats at some point and tonight was the night
SLDL's ok but will stay at same weight until squats move up
Crunches ok move on to 35 kg


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