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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 12 2008 11:38:29
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Apollo I've been looking for your journal but can't find it anywhere. Where it be (sic) ?
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 12 2008 14:32:22
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Weight is down to 12st8 now. I imagine most of it is glycogen/ water loss, but I'm sure there is some fat in there too 
Once my weight has stablised I'll be aiming for 2lb a week.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 12 2008 20:54:31
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Good progress mate just read through your recent posts! Keep at it, I plan to. I think Ill create my new journal tomorow as I need it really with the shape up comp an all. Ive lost alot of bodyfat but my strengh has decreased too so Im glad to be back bulking but slower and cleanly this time.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 13 2008 13:20:24
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Good progress mate just read through your recent posts! Keep at it, I plan to. I think Ill create my new journal tomorow as I need it really with the shape up comp an all. Ive lost alot of bodyfat but my strengh has decreased too so Im glad to be back bulking but slower and cleanly this time.
Good luck with that mate, hope you didn't undo all your hard work last night by DRINKING!
Chest day t'was yesterday.
Bench press
45kg 1x5, 1x5, 1xs4, 1x5, 1x3 (Didn't rest long enough between some sets)
Barbell shoulder press
31kg 1x5, 1x5, 1x5, 1x4, 1x4
Standing skull crushers (if that's what they're called)
14kg 1x5, 1x5, 1x5, 1x4, 1x4 (again, didn't rest enough between last 2 sets)
Going back to uni today. Should be doing 2hr Wing Chun tonight. 45 mins cardio done as per usual
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 13 2008 13:55:45
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Hi mate. I went out with a group of mates and drank water all night hehe. Fun night too! 2008 is feeling very bright for me so far in every way so far.
Good chest workout. Do you think that you will increase your lifts aswell as losing weight? I found when losing weight I lost alot of strengh but Im sure it will come back quickly and Im not interested as I look better now. TBH Im not too bothered how much I can lift and Im more concerned with appearence.
Great stuff on the cardio, keep it up. Im also maintaining mine. Whats wing chun, a martial art?
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 13 2008 22:29:59
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Hi mate. I went out with a group of mates and drank water all night hehe. Fun night too! 2008 is feeling very bright for me so far in every way so far.
Good chest workout. Do you think that you will increase your lifts aswell as losing weight? I found when losing weight I lost alot of strengh but Im sure it will come back quickly and Im not interested as I look better now. TBH Im not too bothered how much I can lift and Im more concerned with appearence.
Great stuff on the cardio, keep it up. Im also maintaining mine. Whats wing chun, a martial art?
Glad it was a good night mate
It was a good workout. My strength hasn't suffered yet, but I've only been eating a much lower amount of carbs for about 6 days now.
Last time when I 'cut' I dropped calories far too low and was weak as a kitten. I wasn't thinking about bodybuilding then though, I just wanted to get skinny. I have a feeling that my strength won't drop too much - I am trying to increase it if anything, hence the 5x5 routine. I think it should be entirely possible to increase strength on a cut, though we shall see. It's gonna be just that bit harder doing the cardio at uni now, as when at home I have an elliptical trainer in my bedroom, so it's simply a case of waking up and jumping on it with just my boxers, socks and shoes on. Now I have to get dressed and walk to the gym, and as I hate cardio this will be an unpleasent task, but I know what my goals are, and with my focus I am confident that I won't slip up.
I also feel 2008 will be a good year for me mate, though I still have serious problems with confidence which I will be sorting this year. I get very nervous in social situations (I'm not a recluse or anything), but I have a plan to overcome this issue.
I also am not too bothered with how much I'm lifting, though it is always a pleasure to be able to increase your weight, or to be lifting slightly more than someone else. This is not my priority though. I'm no expert on training, but am following FrankieNY's mass building program which is 5x5, even though higher repetitions are usually favoured. Once I start bulking I will monitor and adjust my training.
Yes mate Wing Chun Kung Fu is a martial art. It's based on taking your oponent out as quickly and efficiently as possible; it's absolutely lethal! Two of the helpers in the class who are a bit older than me were doing some MMA-style sparring while we were practising, and one of them got his head and his mouth split, and also got thrown into the fire alarm 
Have a look on wikipedia mate it's a good sport 
Hope the bulk is going well. Will check into the journal when it's created 
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 14 2008 11:03:16
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whats the plan to overcome the so called confidence issue mate?
Well it's weird mate; it's not like a serious case of social anxiety or anything like that. It's like, if I'm in certain situations I will be the life and soul, whereas if I'm in say a larger group or with people who know each other better than they know me, I sometimes feel really nervous and don't speak. Once you have gone a couple of minutes of not talking, it seems like it would be weird to start now, so you sort of stay silent.
Take last night for example, I went to martial arts practise and I was the only novice there; all the other guys had known each other for two years or so. Anyway I started sparring with a guy who's really good and I kept making mistakes, which is obviously natural, but I was the only one there doing so. Then the fire alarm went off and we had to wait outside and four of the guys knew each other really well and two of us just sort of stood there not really talking. Then when I got back to my accommodation I had a really good laugh with my flat mates, was making them laugh and I was really comfortable.
My plan to overcome this is top secret I'm afraid Eddie . Nah, Im going to start listing things I like about myself, throwing myself into situations and not caring what people think, doing various exercises designed to increase self-esteem; that sort of thing. My self-esteem isn't actually that low; I think I'm a cool guy, but I still lack confidence, so if the above doesn't work, will probably try self-help seminars or something, but I am hoping it won't go that far. I've had this problem for a while, so it's time to bite the bullet and stop being such a pu55y IMO.
There are other reasons for this lack of confidence, but I won't go into them ATM. I will be tackling these problems this week and once I see results in this area I am positive my situation will improve. Not sure if that seems a lil cryptic, but I'll go into details after I see improvements.
I'll keep you updated if you like Eddie
Anyway, on to training etc.
Did 45 mins cardio at 9:15 today
Just had breakfast, but forgot to pack my Fry Light spray stuff, so had to use a wee bit of olive oil. Sure that will be fine for one day
Plan to do back later on today. Workout will be deads, rows, (possibly) lat pulldows and bicep curls
My weekly plan from now on will probably be something like this:
Sunday
AM 45 mins cardio
PM 2 hrs Wing Chun
Monday
AM 45 mins cardio
45-60mins weight training (back)
Tuesday
AM 45 mins cardio
PM 2 hrs Wing Chun
Wednesday
AM 45 mins cardio
45-60mins weight training (chest)
Thursday
AM 45 mins cardio
PM 2 hrs Wing Chun
Friday
AM 45 mins cardio
45-60mins weight training (chest)
Saturday
AM 45 mins cardio
PM 45-60 mins climbing wall or nothing
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 14 2008 16:53:53
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I have a similar issue to you mate. Not a serious problem at all but something Id like to work on. I dont have anxiety but I can feel nervous if in an uncomfortable situation. For example on saturday night when I went out sober with my friend we went with his 3 cousins, (2 of whom were girls), and they all knew each other really well whereas I was meeting them for the first time. And the two girls are stunners. So I was feeling shy and nervous for a good hour. If I had been drinking then this would not have been an issue, which is why I want to quit drinking and work on improving my real confidence rarther than creating a false and drunken sense of being a superman everytime I go out. Anyway a couple of times they asked me things like "why dont you talk more"? "You dont say much do you". Which made me feel worse so I started messing with my mobile. Anyway as the night went on I broke free and started to ask questions and answer theirs, in which I could feel myself instantly homing my social skills. My confidence grew and I started enjoying chatting to them. By the end of the night I felt that I had learned alot and I look forward to meeting new people sober the next time I go out.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 14 2008 18:18:01
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That sounds exactly like me mate, and sounds like it is something we both need to work on. Last term I think one of the reasons for me drinking a lot was that I could have great conversations with people and not feel nervous, but I think that doing this just amplifies your anxiety when sober, so you depend more and more on drink and it becomes a vicious cycle.
I definitely need to chill out and work on developing my social skills when sober. I'm going out this week and am determined to do so.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 15 2008 17:31:02
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Pleased with workout last night. Weights are up on everything.
Deads
Warmup 60kg 1x10
100kg 5x5
Barbell rows
30kg 1x10 (way too easy)
35kg 1x10 (still too easy)
40kg 2x5
45kg 2x5 (Heaviest I have ever lifted for rows with correct form)
Bicep curls
25kg 1x5 (Felt too easy)
30kg (heaviest I've ever lifted for biceps) 2x5, 1x3
25kg 1x5 (dropped back down to 25 as 30kg was getting too hard. Should be fine next week though.
Wing Chun tonight at 19:30
Cardio done this morning as always
Will take weight either tomorrow or Thursday morning
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 14:19:30
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Just resisted a MASSIVE urge to binge. Went to a festival thing at the uni and had 3 pieces of chocolate. Not too bothered about this as it was just a little treat and my diet has been completely clean for the last week bar the bounty I had for my cheat meal on Saturday. I'm just trying to focus on the big picture and hope that my previous eating issues don't rear their ugly heads.
Scale weight is puzzling me. When I was at home last week my scale weight was 12st7 (175lbs) on Saturday. Took my weight on a different scale for the first time since being back at uni and it measured 185lbs!  . Took my weight again this morning and it was 183lbs, then after cardio, lots of water and breakfast it was still the same. I really don't understand this. I now weigh more than before I started the cut. I started at 13st, cut for a week, but carbs were too high so didn't lose any weight, reduced my carbs by 60g, lost 7lbs in a few days and then my weight went back up to over 13st. Will take my weight again tomorrow to see if it is going back down, but I really don't understand this and it is very discouraging.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 16:17:43
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Not bad weights lifted their mate. 100kg deadlift is a great base. Mine are crap because my lower back is slightly dodgy at the moment. If I cant improve my deads Ill compensate by going to the gym and doing pull downs on the machine, (I do deads at home).
Good one on resisting the urge to binge at the wine festival. Dont worry about abit of chocolate. Remember as Marmite says, if you build a house with solid foundations then a few pieces of crap furniture wont alter its value. In other words if your diet is in place with good foundations then the odd but of crap wont make a difference.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 16:28:42
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Yes mate I'm not worried about the occasional treat, my outlook is much more logical now
My only concern is my fluctuating weight. I'm not sure whether to reduce carbs even more or give it another week before I consider doing so. Maybe my weight will go back down again tomorrow and I was just holding water or something. The way my body usually works is I weight about 1/2 a stone more before I go to bed than when I wake up. I know weight isn't the only important factor though; my jeans do feel a bit looser  .
You mentioned going on a low carb diet for 6 months. What was a sample day like? I'm hoping to gradually reduce my carbs, but hopefully shouldn't have to yet. Dropped them by 60g early last week and lost 7lbs, but it's gone up again 
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 16:54:12
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I think Marmite has an article floating around somewhere about carb cycling. Could benefit you on non training days?
My weight is the same mate, were it varies at times of the day. Personally I like to go by looks to see if Im visually losing weight, but this takes longer to see a difference and I agree that its nice to know from the scales if your cals are low enough to lose weight.
That programme yesterday about exstreme dieting was interesting. One woman lost 5 pounds just from having colonic irrigation done.
Im lucky in thatI seem to be able to gain or lose weight both relativley easily if I focus on either.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 16:56:30
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I'm familiar with carb cycling mate, but I don't think it should be necessary at the beginning of a cut. I think Marmite says something like "Why use your ace when you only need a 3" or something to that effect.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 17:04:13
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Good point. Are you considering any supplements to use later when you reach a platau? Any fat burners, ECA, retain 2?
Im interested in retasin 2 for future use, maybe beyond a few months.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 17:16:06
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No mate, I don't believe they are necessary or have any real effects. I've tried thermogenics before, but I don't think that using them produce tangeable results.
My trousers do feel a bit looser, so I'm going to keep my diet as it is for a few more days at least. Not sure what my next steps would be. Was thinking of losing 30g carbs on my non-training days, but this may be too small a change, so I might end up removing 30g from all days and having carbs only for brekkie, pre and post-workout (so pretty much a tkd). Then after that carb cycling. However, that seems a bit extreme to be doing in week two/ three, so I'm going to ride it out and see how it goes I think
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 17:17:15
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I will say that EPH sounds interesting as many have reported gaining muscle and losing fat, so would like to try this at some point when bulking. However I'm sure it will be expensive and I am unsure of where to purchase it and what it's side effects are.
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RE: Time to play the game - Jan. 16 2008 17:22:25
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I researched it plenty before starting it. Sides are supposed to be anxiety and possible depression but the only sides I got were insomnia.
Take 3 tabs and you feel a real buzz though and great for charging a workout.
I went from a high dose to suddenly stopping and the only sides to report are feeling legargic, but everyone is different.
I do believe you burn more cals when on eph and the cardio is much better.
I did my cycle on eph25 but Id like to try pure ephedrine minus the caffiene and asprin next time and see how it is.
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