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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 9 2008 16:23:38
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meat 05
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the trn will make a big difference to ur strength mate,its really good stuff!
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 10 2008 10:46:07
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Ah I see, but like you say it is nice to have piece of mind with the bloods you are getting done.
My cycle is causing me to have greasier skin and I have had like 4 spots this week doh!!!!!
Do you do clean & press? When Im on cycle I love it cause of the explosive power and aggression you can use doing your sets.
As Meat has said you will love the Methoxy Tren. When I took it I noticed increased focus on the first session. I would recommended you take most of it pre workout say 3 caps and the other one can be taken in the morning (that’s if you are dosing 4 caps per day?).
Keep at it James. 
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 12 2008 9:15:17
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I hope so meat
I have never clean & pressed taz, I train alone and not sure I would get form right, do you think it has much benefit to BB? I have a really greasy face, washing it all the time now, had 1 big spot (you know the kind red and stuff) on my back, and a few little ones on my face. I will take the trn as you say on training days, thanks 
Bench
warmup 20 * 20, 40 * 10, 60 * 10
set 1 87.5 * 9 (PB), 82.5 * 3, 77.5 * 3
set 2 82.5 * 5, 77.5 * 3, 72.5 * 4
explosive set (fast up, slow down) 50 * 10
Squat
BW * 20, 50 * 10, 80 * 10, 100 * 5, 120 * 9 (failed on 10th rep)
EZ Curls (Weight does not include bar)
warmup 20 * 10
set 1 35 * 8, 30 * 4, 25 * 3
set 2 30 * 5, 25 * 4, 20 * 5
Incline leg Raises BW * 10, Crunches BW * 15
Day 14 of cycle
Strength up! personal best for 9 reps on bench (previous 8 rep pb was 85 which was equalled last week) pushed a little unevenly on 9th rep and felt it in my back, right side hopefully not gonna be a problem, squats were good and low, failed at bottom of 10th rep although i dare say that someone shouting at me might have encouraged me to finish the rep. I think the extra pump might be hinder curls, still feel worked though. I snuck my MD2 dose up to 40mg last week, weight at just about 15 stone.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 14 2008 6:10:11
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BB OHP
warmup 20 * 15, 40 * 10
set 1 52.5 * 7, 47.5 * 2, 42.5 * 5
set 2 47.5 * 8, 42.5 * 3, 40 * 2
set 3 30 * 10
Deadlift
warmup BW Squats * 15
60 * 10, 100 * 10, 135 * 10
WG Chins
set 1 15 * 6, 10 * 2, 5 * 2
set 2 10 * 4, 5 * 3, BW * 3
Crunches
decline * 10, flat * 10
I took 3 caps Methoxy Tren preworkout as Taz suggested and did indeed feel more focused and ready to attack the weights, this unfortunatley didnt really translate as much more strength lol. the OHP is not moving which is annoying, I don't mind not gaining on chins or other BW involved lifts when i am putting weight on fast, but i should be able to OHP more, I will drop down the weight much more and work with higher reps next week. Deads were ok, grip swapped after 4th, 7th and 9th rep. 3 plates for 10 reps next week. some tiny white heads apearing on my nose 
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 16 2008 4:12:29
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CG Bench
warmup 20 * 20, 40 * 10, 60 * 8
set 1 77.5 * 12 (PB), 72.5 * 5, 67.5 * 4
set 2 72.5 * 6, 67.5 * 3, 62.5 * 3
Calf Raise
warmup BW *20, 50 * 15, 80 * 10
set 1 115 * 10, 105 * 6, 95 * 7
set 2 95 * 10, 90 * 8, 85 * 7
single leg BW 14L 14R,7(+3*)L 7(+3*)R (*)assisted
CGUH Chins
set 1 +20 * 7, +15 * 3, 10 * 2
set 2 +10 * 5, +5 * 3, BW * 2
Shrugs
20 * 15, 60 * 15, 100 * 15, 100 * 15
Day 18 of cycle
Strength up, everything kicking in nicely now. Had an outbreak of blemishes (like spots but just red patches no head) on my shoulders so dropped the MD2 back to 30mg and started using my old sunbed (not great for tanning but ok for skin drying lol) seems to be working. Very pleased with CG Bench, its catching my normal bench up. Shrugs were ok, might keep doing them, might not. I plan to do 1rms on the last week of the Methoxy-Trn (week after next) hopefully will get a halfway respectable figure to put in my sig as a total.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 19 2008 8:38:12
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Bench
warmup 20 * 20, 40 * 10, 60 * 10
set 1 90 * 9 (PB), 85 * 3, 80 * 3
set 2 85 * 5, 80 * 3, 75 * 3
set 3 60 * 12
Squat
BW * 20, 60 * 10, 80 * 10, 100 * 6, 110 * 3, 125 * 10
EZ Curls (Weight does not include bar)
warmup 20 * 10
set 1 37.5 * 6, 32.5 * 3, 27.5 * 3
set 2 32.5 * 6, 27.5 * 3, 22.5 * 6
Crunches BW * 25
Day 21 of cycle
Another PB , squat is also a PB for 10 reps but previously I have managed a 140 for 8 reps, so its not as good, yet. Felt strong, skin settled down now I'm back at 30mg of MD2, a bit dry round the corners of my mouth instead of greasy all over  few spots on shoulders, nothing major. Really liking the Methoxy-Trn, will have to get some more of that.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 21 2008 5:03:57
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BB OHP
warmup 20 * 15, 27.5 * 10, 35 * 8
set 1 45 * 13, 40 * 5, 35 * 5
set 2 45 * 8, 40 * 3, 35 * 6
Deadlift
warmup BW Squats * 15
60 * 10, 100 * 10, 140 * 10 (PB)
WG Chins
set 1 15 * 7, 10 * 3, 5 * 3
set 2 10 * 5, 5 * 3, BW * 2
Crunches
+10 * 20
Day 23 of cycle
Weight dropped on OHP for another work my way up, then will switch to DBs. Deads were not too hard, took off gloves after rep 6 so only one swap of grip. Grip is improved without gloves but I don't want to get calousses. Some improvement in chins. Weighed at 15 stone 2lb whilst training, might have to up calories a bit now. Went round my parents and my sister asked if i had lost weight, said I looked leaner which is good, it means I'm not a total fatass and my gains so far have been reasonable quailty. Skin has settled down now, no new spots. This is my last week of MD2, starting M-Dien next week (late monday).
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 23 2008 2:27:41
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CG Bench
warmup 20 * 20, 40 * 12, 60 * 10, 70 * 5
set 1 80 * 11 (PB), 75 * 3, 70 * 4
set 2 75 * 8, 70 * 3, 65 * 5
Calf Raise
warmup BW *20, 60 * 15, 80 * 10, 100 * 8
set 1 120 * 9, 110 * 8, 100 * 9
set 2 100 * 12, 95 * 8, 90 * 8
CGUH Chins
set 1 +20 * 8 (PB), +15 * 3, 10 * 3
set 2 +10 * 6, +5 * 3, BW * 3
Day 25 of cycle
Didn't feel very lively training, but strength was good, PBs keep coming Went shopping today and tried on some new trousers, my legs were too big, which I'm perversly pleased about. Weighed 15stone 4lbs whilst training.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 23 2008 17:42:21
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Good going on the PB's mate, I broke another today. Feels good doesn't it lol.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 24 2008 21:55:38
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Talk about coincidences! Just been into your journal and commented TheDA, and I see you in here! Thanks, for taking the time to read my journal. Yes you will need a PCT after Methoxy-Trn, you probably will want to stack it with something else too if your aimimg for more mass, its more biased towards increasing strength and focus, which it's doing very well for me.
Breaking PB's is very addictive firest0rm! I'm actually starting to worry how i will cope with coming off this cycle, I'm getting used to setting PB's every session! Going to record some new 1rms next week, according to a 1rm calculator I just went on http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/1rm.htm my squat and dead will be fairly impressive (compared to prior to cycle), but i will beleive that when i see it 
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 26 2008 7:04:35
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Squat
BW * 20, 60 * 10, 80 * 8, 100 * 6, 110 * 4, 120 * 2, 130 * 9
Day 28 of cycle
Just squats this morning as someone from work is supposed to be coming round this afternoon for training which i think will be an upper body workout, if not then bench and curls this afternoon anyway. Failed on 10th rep, tryed really hard too  but it was still a good strong set. Finished MD2 now, onto M-Dien now. Weighed 15stone 7lbs whilst traiing but i had been drinking a fair bit of water.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 26 2008 10:37:51
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Yes for defo. The way I se it all of your other lifts contribute to clean & press and you will only be able to c&p as much as your weakest link (mine would be deads atm with my back)
Lifts that will complement the first part of the lift would be deadlift, bobbr,chins. When you clean the weight onto your chest I suppose complementary lifts would be bb pull-ups, cleans and the final part of this lift will be assisted by bench press wide grip bhins, good mornings etc etc.
This lift can be done on your own mate as noone would beable to catch the weight from you even if someone was there. It weill help you build a solid base across all areas, as soon as you spot a weak spot as long as its not an injury like mine you can work on that area. Look into it bud as it hits so many different muscles and its enjoyable.
Lol at spots I hate them.
Good man re the trn I felt it helped me sooooo much.
Well done on the pb’s bud the workouts seem to be going very well indeed. You are right though a training partner would help. But then you usually find they are unreliable like my one is lol!!!!!
Don’t be deflated about not having so much of a strength spurt from methoxy trn just yet. See if you push harder this week and get a few extra reps, next wek it will be easier and you will get a few more or beable t o push it up some more.
If your sister has commented on your physic all the hard work must be paying off. I carnt wait to see what you think to the M-Dien.
After you come off cycle and go through pct why don’t you purposely drop the weights down and up the reps i.e. say your best on bench b4 was 60kg for 5/5/5 and now you are pressing 80kg for 3/3/3 why not drop back to 60 and go for 12/10/8? My figures are random by the way I just wanted to show you how you could combate the strength dropp with it not being so much on as issue because you will still be stronger than you were to start off with. Plus you do need to change reps and training regular to keep pushing strength up and grow. I mean I love lifting heavy but I carnt do it forever as my body just wont let me.
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Start BF: 20.8%
Current weight: 16st 10lb
Current bf: ???
Lifts:
Bench 135
Clean & Press 95
Squat 155
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle starting 28.04.08 - May 26 2008 17:18:41
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I know what you mean about not lifting heavy all the time taz, I ache a fair bit now, could do with a rest and I've only been on 4 weeks lol I will look into clean and press and give them a good try. I need to change the routine again fairly soon before it drys up. Guy from work did come round, didnt record exact lifts but here is vaguely what i done
Bench
20 * 20, 40 * 10, 60 * 10,
80 * some?
90 * to failure,
90 * failure+2 assisted reps,
80 * to failure dropped to 70 * to failure dropped to 60 * failure
CG Chins
Bw 12,
+10 * some? Bw * 2
BW * some?
EZ Curls
22.5 * some?
22.5 * some?
22.5 * some?
22.5 * some?
Skullcrushers
10 * lots?
20 * some?
20 * some?
20 * some?
I think Isolations will be added for arms in the rewrite, maybe 6 additional sets or so, they are a weak area for me. Also I have had a stiff neck for a few days now, i can only turn about 45degrees to the left, but that's ok, nothing interesting is ever on the left.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle - Home of the PB - May 28 2008 0:29:42
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Deadlift
warmup BW Squats * 15, 60 * 10, 100 * 8, 140 * 1
1rm max attempts (PB) 160 * 1, 170 * 1, 180 * 1(PB), 190 * 1(PB), 200 fail - welded to floor, 200 fail - still welded to floor
BB OHP
warmup 20 * 10, 30 * 8, 40 * 6, 50 * 3
1rm max attempts 60 * 1, 65 * 1, 70 * 1(PB), 75 * 1(PB), 80 fail -couldn't lift from waist to shoulders
WG Chins
set 1 15 * 7, 10 * 3, 5 * 2
set 2 10 * 5, 5 * 2, BW * 2
Incline Leg Raises * 15, Crunches * 15
Day 30 of cycle
I think my efforts deserve a w00t, although I'm not entirely sure what w00t means i have seen it used in similar context Did deads first today for the sake of my neighbours. Deads were good, 190 was tough and I couldn't have held onto it for too long, but put it down again okay. I think I may have managed a bit more on OHP if I could have got it onto my shoulders, another reason to do as Taz said and add clean and press to my routine No gain on chins. Still got lots of arm DOMS from monday's arm extravaganza.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle - Home of the PB - May 30 2008 3:33:20
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CG Bench
warmup 20 * 16, 40 * 10, 60 * 10
set 1 82.5 * 8, 77.5 * 3, 72.5 * 3
set 2 77.5 * 8, 72.5 * 3, 67.5 * 3
Calf Raise
warmup BW *20, 60 * 10, 100 * 8
set 1 120 * 10, 110 * 7, 100 * 4
set 2 100 * 10, 95 * 7, 90 * 6
CGUH Chins
set 1 +25 * 5, +20 * 3, 15 * 2
set 2 +15 * 5, +5 * 3, BW * 3
Day 32 of cycle
Miss timed my Methoxy-Trn so didn't get 3 as a workout booster, plus missed a needed warmup set for cg bench, so nothing amazing today, strength is ok still, might get a better when the M-dien kicks in. I don't think there will be any big increases from now so will do 1rm max for bench monday morning then starting modifying routine and including lots of cardio, might as well get fit during pct, i won't try and lose weight but will keep calories high and add cardio to maintain. I am thinking about adding cissus drol or something similar to my pct, undecided because to me it seems a bit to much like a steroid for me to beleive that it isnt going to hinder recovery. 
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle - Home of the PB - May 31 2008 10:30:14
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80 on bench to failure then 60 to failure must have been a killer? 
Ya I have injured my neck on occasion and its not nice. Usually I end up doing it getting in and out the shower lol!!!!!!! 
Nice DL!!!!!I wish I could push upto the 200’s but me old back wont take it doh!!!!!!! Im well jealous.
75 is good for OHP mate nice job.
No idea what a W00t is myself lol!!!! But your welcome to one.
I love Methoxy Tren me. Im gona buy a few more bottles for the cupboard I think.
How long do you have left on cycle mate?
I knida agree make sure you keep them cals high during pct else you will loose your gains. But I don’t see no reason why you carnt up the cariod as I plan on doing something similar.
CD is not a stead mate and it will help get your test levels back up nicely. CD is all I used last time with nolva and it worked fine.
Have you ever considered using Nutrex Vitrix? This sis supposed to be really good for test levels so maybe worth a read? Im gona try it later this year.
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Current weight: 16st 10lb
Current bf: ???
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle - Home of the PB - May 31 2008 18:25:13
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thanks taz, im pleased with the new pbs, hopefully bench and squat will be strong too. Normally i lift to positive failure so it was a bit harder with forced and assisted reps, my arms have ached all week lol
My neck is still a bit painful moving to the left but i have full ROM, i think i may have done it watching tv unless it was lifting and i just didnt feel it at the time.
Only 2 weeks and a few days left, but I am looking a bit red atm so i think the M-dien is doing me no favours in terms of blood pressure! I will give it a fews days might calm down when i come of the Methoxy-trn (which i really like and will be getting some more of too) otherwise might have to finish cycle a bit early.
Never heard of Nutrex Vitrix, i will have a read later
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle - Home of the PB - Jun. 1 2008 17:18:05
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Bench
20 * some
40 * some
60 * some
80 * some
90 * 2
100 * 1
110 * 1 (PB)
115 * 1 (PB)
80 * 12
60 * some
CG UH Chins
BW * 12
15 * some
10 * some
BW * some
21's (EZ bar + 20k)
Lower 7 reps Upper 7 reps Full 0 reps
Lower 7 reps Upper 4 reps Full 0 reps
Full * some reps
Skullcrushers
20 * lots
25 * some
25 * some
Day 35 of cycle
Trained with guy from work again, so some sets are a little vague. rest was minimal and nearly all sets apart from those leading up to singles on bench were taken to positive failure or beyond. Pleased with new PB on bench! I don't think i could have done much more, rep was slow and tough but full ROM and no bouncing. Gave 21's a try for curls and they are tough, got to work on arms more though. good session, squats after work in the morning, going for 1 rm on them too, there will be a new squat PB barring leg(s) falling off.
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RE: MD2, Methoxy-Trn, M-Dien cycle - Home of the PB - Jun. 2 2008 7:26:44
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Squats
BW * 20
60 * 5, 80 * 3, 100 * 1, 120 * 1, 130 * 1,
140 * 1, 150 * 1 (PB), 160 * 1 (PB)
130 * 1
100 * 5 - failed on 6th
Squats felt heavy from the off, I am tired but I don't think it affected actual max strength, just not many reps managed after the max. 160, pleased with that, felt so heavy on my shoulders, should probably do lower reps, higher weights to get used to the weight, its always a shock doing heavy squats. It's worth mentioning as squat form can vary, that each rep was below paralell, with the lightest kiss on the spotter bars to confirm i was below paralell.
So 1 rm totals before cycle were
Bench 100
Squat 120
Dead 160
OHP 65
Now, 5 weeks into cycle are
Bench 115
Squat 160
Dead 190
OHP 75
Great success! Will test again, say 4 or 5 weeks after pct, see how much i manage to keep
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