Hi gang.

Can some of our gym owners give a bit of an insight as to what you need to start a gym ?

Obiviously you cant fill a warehouse with weights and start charging people to use it, so what is actully needed etc ?

Thanks fellas !
nick

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alot a bet ur talking a 20-30k lay out.for a decent gym.what you should do is write down what u think ud need then go online and price up.

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alot a bet ur talking a 20-30k lay out.for a decent gym.what you should do is write down what u think ud need then go online and price up.

Hi pred, its not the cost of the weights, machines etc im intrested in its more the running and insurance stuff and do you need qualified PT's there ?

I have no clue at all what needs to be in place to actully start one ?

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Right gave a great reply to this before, I'll see if I can find it

how big do you want the gym to be?
lots of factors to take into consideration.

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Where abouts in Essex you hoping to start up Locust?

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Hi gang.

Can some of our gym owners give a bit of an insight as to what you need to start a gym ?

Obiviously you cant fill a warehouse with weights and start charging people to use it, so what is actully needed etc ?

Thanks fellas !
nick

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The very first thing you need is leisure planning consent on the premises - a royal pain in the ar5e in many instances.

Then you decide on whether to lease or buy your kit - reckon on needing £1-£2k a month on leasing (equals you need many more memberships), or £60k up-front for a half-decent arrangement.

Business insurance will be £1600-£2000.
Buildings insurance potentially another grand.
PAT testing certs on all kit.
NICEIC cert on the ringmain.
Alarm, fire alarm, boiler servicing certificates.

Rates - do you qualify for small business rate relief (phone l;ocal council with location and square footage of unit to find out).

If not, depending on the area and gym size you could be £600-£1200 a month out of pocket.

You will need a survey at £500+ when moving in, plus reckon on £1000+ for solicitors.

My monthly outgoings based on me having bought everything and being fully functional include:

Rent
Rates
Business insurance
Buildings insurance
Yellow pages
Gas
Water
Electricity
Phone
Electrical testing
Alarm servicing
Boiler servicing
Cardio maintenance contract
Building repairs
Cleaning fluids etc

I don't have staff and still need £3000+ a month just to open the doors.

Then there are the nasty surprises - like when your loo floods and the insurer refuses to pay out claiming "flooding" in your terms and conditions refers to coastal flooding and not loos. Cnuts.

The roof lead getting nicked by pikeys.

Smashed windows.

Jamming roller shutter doors, etc.

Landlord writing to inform you in 2009 your rent will be doubling....

I'd think carefully. It's not a case of open and lots of customers walk in.

We do £25,000 in marketing and advertising every year, too.

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Jesus is there a starting gym explosion!!!
I'm looking into it myself too mate.

If your looking at a warehouse you probably need to do a change of use application. You will need liability insurance, buildings insurance, signage, flooring, some sort of ID system, staff, legionella samples/testing/checks etc
You have the normal H&S duty of care and risk assesments to do on machinery. One thing I don't know about myself is where you get info about weight baring floors etc

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Landlord writing to inform you in 2009 your rent will be doubling....

what a tw@t

I'm sure there is something you can do about unfair increases in rent, isn't there rent reveiw legislation now mate?

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One thing I don't know about myself is where you get info about weight baring floors etc

It's on the original building plans at Town Hall - free to check or a surveyor can do it and charge you £300 .

Needs to be 500kg/m2 to meet gym regulations.

MT all-round Member of the Year 2006 and 2007

Now at Undergroundmuscle.co.uk

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Hi gang.

Can some of our gym owners give a bit of an insight as to what you need to start a gym ?

Obiviously you cant fill a warehouse with weights and start charging people to use it, so what is actully needed etc ?

Thanks fellas !
nick

]

The very first thing you need is leisure planning consent on the premises - a royal pain in the ar5e in many instances.

Then you decide on whether to lease or buy your kit - reckon on needing £1-£2k a month on leasing (equals you need many more memberships), or £60k up-front for a half-decent arrangement.

Business insurance will be £1600-£2000.
Buildings insurance potentially another grand.
PAT testing certs on all kit.
NICEIC cert on the ringmain.
Alarm, fire alarm, boiler servicing certificates.

Rates - do you qualify for small business rate relief (phone l;ocal council with location and square footage of unit to find out).

If not, depending on the area and gym size you could be £600-£1200 a month out of pocket.

You will need a survey at £500+ when moving in, plus reckon on £1000+ for solicitors.

My monthly outgoings based on me having bought everything and being fully functional include:

Rent
Rates
Business insurance
Buildings insurance
Yellow pages
Gas
Water
Electricity
Phone
Electrical testing
Alarm servicing
Boiler servicing
Cardio maintenance contract
Building repairs
Cleaning fluids etc

I don't have staff and still need £3000+ a month just to open the doors.

Then there are the nasty surprises - like when your loo floods and the insurer refuses to pay out claiming "flooding" in your terms and conditions refers to coastal flooding and not loos. Cnuts.

The roof lead getting nicked by pikeys.

Smashed windows.

Jamming roller shutter doors, etc.

Landlord writing to inform you in 2009 your rent will be doubling....

I'd think carefully. It's not a case of open and lots of customers walk in.

We do £25,000 in marketing and advertising every year, too.

But if you lease it you can write off the depreciation in one go, giving you a healthier cash flow for your first year.

 
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ORIGINAL: JohnOvManchester
One thing I don't know about myself is where you get info about weight baring floors etc

It's on the original building plans at Town Hall - free to check or a surveyor can do it and charge you £300 .

Needs to be 500kg/m2 to meet gym regulations.

Ah fantastic, thanks mate.
The original building plans had a differant layout as the building in question used to have just a ground floor and a very high ceiling, now the landlord has taken down every wall to just leave the shell and is putting in 3 fllors (ground,middle,top).
I needed that figure to make sure the floors he is putting in (if I end up renting it off him) will be at least made to withstand it.
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About your gyms rent righty... are you going to take it to Arbitration?

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ORIGINAL: JohnOvManchester
One thing I don't know about myself is where you get info about weight baring floors etc

It's on the original building plans at Town Hall - free to check or a surveyor can do it and charge you £300 .

Needs to be 500kg/m2 to meet gym regulations.

Ah fantastic, thanks mate.
The original building plans had a differant layout as the building in question used to have just a ground floor and a very high ceiling, now the landlord has taken down every wall to just leave the shell and is putting in 3 fllors (ground,middle,top).
I needed that figure to make sure the floors he is putting in (if I end up renting it off him) will be at least made to withstand it.
cheers



About your gyms rent righty... are you going to take it to Arbitration?

It will likely be expressed in lb/ft per Nm on the plan - if it says 5 that means 500kg/m2.

British Standards set the limit, by the way.

Arbitration? Hell no. I want out of the place. Moment I get my deposit back, he's getting knocked out.

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Now at Undergroundmuscle.co.uk

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ORIGINAL: JohnOvManchester
One thing I don't know about myself is where you get info about weight baring floors etc

It's on the original building plans at Town Hall - free to check or a surveyor can do it and charge you £300 .

Needs to be 500kg/m2 to meet gym regulations.

Ah fantastic, thanks mate.
The original building plans had a differant layout as the building in question used to have just a ground floor and a very high ceiling, now the landlord has taken down every wall to just leave the shell and is putting in 3 fllors (ground,middle,top).
I needed that figure to make sure the floors he is putting in (if I end up renting it off him) will be at least made to withstand it.
cheers



About your gyms rent righty... are you going to take it to Arbitration?

It will likely be expressed in lb/ft per Nm on the plan - if it says 5 that means 500kg/m2.

British Standards set the limit, by the way.

Arbitration? Hell no. I want out of the place. Moment I get my deposit back, he's getting knocked out.

Thing is, absolutely none of us doubt that for one second.

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Believe me mate - there are only two people in the world I HATE.
He is one of them.

He knows he's getting knocked out, too which is great cos he's been stressing about it for a while now.

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Believe me mate - there are only two people in the world I HATE.
He is one of them.

He knows he's getting knocked out, too which is great cos he's been stressing about it for a while now.

You evil, evil, man.
Just plant him one and get it over with, put him ouit of his misery!

Thing is the stress of worry is far worse than getting hit, you get a double buzz from it!

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What sort of boiler system is needed to run the showers and sinks?
Say you have 8 showers in total and 4 sinks in total?



Righty - have you found another place to re-locate the gym to?

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