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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 8 2008 10:25:08
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S41N7
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NUTRITION
9:00 - 30g whey in water and 60gs of oats in skimmed milk with a level teaspoon of sugar.
10:00 - 200ml of fresh fruit juice.
12:00 - 120g chicken and rice
3:00 - 60g of oats. 120g of chicken
7:30 - 120g of chicken and a small slice of sweet potato, peas and carrot.
TREAT - small slice of cheesecake and a bag of toffee popcorn 
MISC:
3 oatcakes
3 hard boiled sweets
2 tsp of set honey
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 9 2008 10:01:36
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I have lost about 1kg so far but feel alot tighter on the upper body, a few people at work noticed a change too (not the kids accusig me ofbeing on steroids  - fellow teachers asking me how often I train before proceeding to ask me for exercise and nutritional advice  ). So I guess things are going well, Cant wait for James to put me on the next phase.
Today is also the day I have an appointment with Taj at Emporium gym, I really hope that works out because I need the push from someone in the know.
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9:45 - 30g whey in water
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 9 2008 10:15:39
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Today is also the day I have an appointment with Taj at Emporium gym,
Good luck with that mate, I hope you get what you want from it. 
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 9 2008 11:26:37
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I presume Taj will just PT you and you'll be leaving everything else to james.
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 9 2008 14:33:18
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ORIGINAL: Formerly Known as Old Git
Good luck with that mate, I hope you get what you want from it.
Thanks ...
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ORIGINAL: S_T_E_F
I presume Taj will just PT you and you'll be leaving everything else to james.
Too right Stef.
The appointment went well. Raced through the traffic and got there on time, just to be sent back home having forgotten my diet plan (the original printed by James) as well as my training log . After going back to the gym with the relevant documents he took a look at the diet plan... and asked me how long I have been on it. I answered @about 4 weeks.. I have a appointment Sunday and James will tweak this base plan and the diet will really start. He asked how often I see James I explained I think the plan is every 3-4 weeks depending on progress. He asked How much I paid for the service I answered and explained that the amount paid takes me up to comp date.
He looked at the plan again and confirmed James name, he then asked where he was based before explaining that he needed to look at the diet plan because the boys here could have dealt with me and I can see them more regularly. I explained that I can contact James by e-mail or telephone as often as I needed, furthermore, My progress is monitored in real-time via an online forum. 
He handed me back the sheet and exclaimed "I am very impressed with the nutritional advice, and will be interested to see what recommendations are made after my appointment". I said I have faith in James and will keep him up to date. he replied to stick with the plan and not to let others bend my head with contradictory advice.
I reiterated my reason for being at his gym. "I want/need help with training intensity, I don’t think I am hitting the right intensity level to stimulate growth". After a lengthy discussion and looking at my training log he advised:
1) come out of your comfort zone - do those exercises you don’t like doing like pull-ups. Even if you only do 2 they will stimulate growth.
2) the mental strain is worse than the physical - You will get smaller as you get more leaner, your muscles will get flatter and you will still have some body fat on you will look crap and flat, you will feel as though your wasting your time, you will feel fat. You have to continue pushing on because underneath the stubborn fat the muscles are still there they just have allot of water drawn out of them. when the fat is gone you will look good, and once carb loading etc commences you will look fantastic. Keep focused because the mental strain is intense
3) Do not aim for a particular weight - he explained that aiming for a weight cat is limiting as you may look better at another weight. he explained that over the years he has trained some guys who will stop shredding to hit a certain weight or guys who ease off training to hit a certain weight. he explains that when on stage people are not thinking he is such and such a weight. You will have to train to be the best you can be the weight is a consequence.
4) Keep workouts short - after a brief warm up go straight in for high intensity training PUSH YOUSELF HARD and give yourself ample time to recover (short intense workouts)
I had my training session (legs) and after I had finished He sent down one of this students to finish me off _ I was TRULY FINNISHED OFF. walking up the steps was difficult. I was sweating and panting and my legs were jelly, I needed my PWO, but had left my money in the car... Walking down the steps to the car park was difficult in a different way, after waddling to the car and back again to face the steps, which I almost stamped my way up, to get a fresh progen whey juice drink I hadx to face the steps again to get back to the car (ouch). Felt a little dizzy and almost like I could throw up 
I have an appointment tomorrow at 5:00pm where HE will be training me. I usually do chest and biceps he said so does everyone else who train here and suggested I do something else on Mondays or else we will waist time waiting for equipment ( at that time). He reassured me - "your chest doesn’t know its Monday "
Really good workout. Looking forwards with some fear.
[Corrected all the errors]
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 9 2008 18:38:21
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NUTRITION
9:45 - 30g whey in water
10:00 - 60gs of oats in skimmed milk with a level teaspoon of sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice.
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PWO 35g protien (prepakeged progen juice drink
3:00 - a small baked potato and 200g of cottage cheese
6:00 - 120g of fresh haddock and a medium sweet potato and steamed green veg
8:00 - 60g of oats and 30g of whey in skimmed milk ( was starving and oats always satisfies me).
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 9 2008 20:16:34
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decent advice you got there mate. sounds like youre legs are going to hurt tomorrow...
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 9 2008 20:54:34
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Sounds like the guy knows his stuff mate. This comment confirms it:
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he replied to stick with the plan and not to let others bend my head with contradictory advice.
Which is exacly what I said above.
Mate, my diary says our appointment is Saturday, not Sunday..... - can you check with CD please?
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 10 2008 7:08:20
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Good advice you got there, I particularly liked the bit about short workouts being more intense.This i have found for myself as you push up the overload and effort you soon realise you cant physically do too much in one bash.
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 10 2008 10:28:04
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Yeah, I took about 45 min to complete my session. They recon I can have legs done in 25 min with high intensity supersets.
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NUTRITION
6:00 - 30g whey in water
6:30 - 60gs of oats in skimmed milk with a level teaspoon of sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice.
10:20 - progen and an orange
12:30 - 120g of chicken in a wholemeal pitta and salad. 1 pear
3:00 - 120g of chicken in a wholemeal pitta and salad. Mixed tropical fruit salad
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 10 2008 18:54:34
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ORIGINAL: Formerly Known as Old Git
Excellent leg workout there mate, I liked that a lot. 
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ORIGINAL: theiopener
that is one mental leg workout mate, good on ya !
Thanks Gents'. However, my workouts may have lacked a full range of movement. I am not saying they did but it is likely. According to taj I have developed some bad habbits I will have to keep a check on. (see below)
I had my session with Taj today. He put me through the pace and assured me he was not trying to burn me out. he explained that any fool can do that. there was method to his madness. he went straight for the weakness he identified yestoday and had me doing pull down exercises taking me through a range of movements for my back and shoulders. The workout reminded me of the intensity and determination I used to experience (  back when I got fantastic results).
His conclusion was that although I am "pretty strong" I have developed bad habits:
1) I concentrate on the completion of sets as opposed to the completeion of reps and so often fail to complete the full motion.
2) I give up mentally although there is more left in me (something recognised by one of the guys at the MT meet)
I am not sure what weights I did or for how manny reps as Taj kept the paper in order to devise a plan from it.
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 10 2008 20:37:00
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NUTRITION
6:00 - 30g whey in water
6:30 - 60gs of oats in skimmed milk with a level teaspoon of sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice.
10:20 - progen and an orange
12:30 - 120g of chicken in a wholemeal pitta and salad. 1 pear
3:00 - 120g of chicken in a wholemeal pitta and salad. Mixed tropical fruit salad
PWO 40g reflex whey
6:00 - fesh smoked haddock and green veg a tiny potato and a medium sweet potato
8:30 - 100g of makerel fillet and 2 oatcakes
11:10 - 30g whey in skimmed milk
MISC:
2 pkts of chewing gum
2 spoons of honey
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 11 2008 6:38:18
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Woke up 12 an hour late. The soreness in my legs are persisting, in fact they seem to have gotton worse (but I am not complaining ). My back and shoulders fel ok. But, I am convinced the soreness will kick in later.
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6:30 - 30g whey in water
7:00 - 60gs of oats in skimmed milk with a level teaspoon of sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice.
10:00 - Pgogen and a pear
12:15 - Wholemeal pitta with 120g of chicken and salad. 1 apple
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 11 2008 12:41:54
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Hey
Thanks for stopping by in my journal.
My sister is a teacher too, think she is growing to hate kids 
I know practically nothing about nutrition (I've had Drew's help for the last 16 weeks!) but I was personally gutted to find out that sugar free gum is 60g carbs per 100g. I read the side of the pack this weekend, previously I had assumed it was nothing like diet coke or something like that. I had been chowing gum like nobodies business because I thought it was good for my teeth 
Wish you the best of luck with your first competition prep - you seem very dedicated - all the best!
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RE: S4!NT. a diary to the first comp - Mar. 11 2008 13:14:24
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ugar free gum is 60g carbs per 100g
yes and most of that is polyols which most of it wont be digested anyway
if you chew 100g of gum i guarantee youll be running for the toilet!!
Afternoon Saint, good to hear legs are in pieces mate im in the same condition myself. How are things for you today?
It is polyols... all 60g!
Like I said I don't know much about nutrition, I don't know what a polyol is
I was reading a t-nation physique clinic thread (novagreg) over the weekend and either Christian Thibaudeau or Chris Shugart specifically stated to the guy not to have gum (even sugar free gum) because it had 2g of carbs per stick.
I haven't touched any gum since
TIO; gum is ok then? That'll teach me for reading other sites
I'll go back to guilt free chewing (phew)
S41N7; apologies for the potential confusion I may have caused 
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