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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 20 2008 15:45:14   
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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 20 2008 16:46:22   
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LOL

Like I said.. a fat loss diet that lets you eat pizza and beer at the weekends? Sounds too good to be true - because it is. Unless you're gifted to stay lean with a regular junk intake, you'll be much better off keeping it to one 1-2 meals over the weekend.

Now when I say junk, I mean something that combines fat (esp sat fat) plus sugars.. like McDonalds or pizza for example. Sugary things are fine on the weekends, e.g. bread and jam, honey, fatfree cookies, fatfree poptarts, gummy bears - eat those up. Just save the burgers/pizza for a couple of meals of the day.

One way I know to even more rapid fat loss is not having a carb day, but one cheat or carb meal every 5 days or so. Whatever you want, one sitting, last meal of the day. The rest of the week follow the Anabolic Diet guidelines, e.g. high fat, 30g carbs etc. But some people don't do well with this kind of deprivation (yeah, like eating bacon and eggs and cheese all day is deprivation) and so go for a slower fat loss with the one full carb day.

Does your version of the book have an induction period of 12 days, or is the 5 days version?

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 20 2008 17:02:33   
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It has the 12 day. Which do you think I should go with?

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 1:54:15   
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Feb 20/08
Bench - 45x8, 135x5, 3x185x5
DB Bench - 40x8, 4x50x8
Band Skulls - minix12, minix15
TBar Row - 45x5, 90x5, 115x5, 115x5, 135x5
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-decent. My plan for raw bench is as simple as it gets; slowly add weight each week. Once it gets too heavy for 5's, I'll do 3's. Once it gets too heavy for 3's I'll back off weight to 5's again
-all weights on everything was easy, just getting my feet wet/getting a starting point
-first workout since starting Anabolic Diet - only ~40g carbs for the last 3 days, and energy was fine; I'm really excited about this diet

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 2:28:31   
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I'll be helping out a friend in a powerlifting meet on Saturday, so I'm thinking about starting my carbload then instead of doing the 12-day thing; just jump head first into it now. Will this have a huge negative effect on me? If it does I could get by, but I'll be driving around half the day out of town, and at a PL meet the other half, so it'd be far easier to carb-up then eat fat.

What's the verdict; will I be fine not waiting the transition period, and just doing the 6-on 1-off cycle off the bat?

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 5:20:08   
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Feb 20/08
8:00 - 4 pieces bacon, 2 scoops whey
10:30 - 1lb ground beef, 1 cup cheese
1:30 - 2 italian sausages
3:00 - mixed nuts
5:00 - 7 breakfast sausages
6:00 - WORKOUT
PWO - 2 scoops whey
11:00 - 2 pieces Canadian bacon

Cals were 3800ish, fat 280, carbs around 50 (too high?), and protein right around 300.

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 6:34:21   
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will be keeping a damned close eye on this, might be something I wean myself onto IF (and when) my fat loss diet fails.

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 14:37:53   
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If you want optimal adaption, go with the 12 day break in period. It can be tougher than the regular 5/2 or 6/1 but for most people it means adaption is quicker, which in the long run is good - you'll find yourself hitting full throttle sooner rather than later. Of course you can always carb at the weekend and THEN do the 12 day (i.e. start over).. but I really think you should.

Re your diet I see a lot of bacon and sausage; I'm not anti-red meat (far from it) but these are processed (therefore contain junk) and I'm assuming your 50g carbs (which might be too high - 30 less or for the break in) come from these items? (since there's no veg in your diet)

The Anabolic Diet is not meant to be a bacon-fest.. sure, it can be part of the diet, but you MUST get in daily vegetables, fish oil and olive oil too.. gone are the days when meat was a complete food as far as fat profiles were concerned (i.e. it had omega3). 10g of fish oil for you at a minimum per day (more if you weren't taking any before), and a couple of tablespoons of olive oil too. That doesn't mean to say you won't get results with eating just bacon, beef and sausages but you will feel and look better with the unsaturated oils in your diet too. I take in ~6 tbsp of olive oil a day..

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 15:47:20   
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Alright then brotha. Looks like I'll be making many trips to mcdonalds for bunless double-cheeseburgers between buddy's lifts hahaha

I just bought a thing of olive oil last night, so I'll be sure to slam some of that. Gonna pick up some fish oil when I'm home this week.


Thanks for all the help Justi! Really appreciate it bud



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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 16:37:56   
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why are you doing this ......... ? ? ?

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 16:49:31   
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Fat loss...

are you asking out of curiousity, or because I shouldn't be?

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 17:05:13   
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a bit of both

good luck with it by all means

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 17:07:51   
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Thank's Raj

Why do you think I shouldn't be doing it? The lack of carbs during the week affecting my workouts? I thought your body was supposed to accomodate to this, and get really good at storing carbs/running off fat no?

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 17:20:01   
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unnecessary
over complicated
scientifically flawed
how many strength athletes do you know on a similar protocol ?
what would they think of it

there are much easier
as for being a magic diet
for every one justicar you find it works, you'll find just as many for whom it doesn't
me for one, many many moons ago
just eat healthily, often, and less
no need to go to extremes which will, dare i say
will hamper your performance mate

my two cents mate
try it by all means


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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 20:31:51   
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Thanks mate

I'll give it a solid run, make detailed notes, and see what happens. If it doesn't work out, you can give me an "I told you so"

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 21 2008 23:58:30   
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Sumo DL (beltless) - 135x5, 225x5, 275x2, 275x3, 315x3, 315x1, 315x1, 315x1, 315x1, 315x3
Narrow ATG Squats - 135x5, 225x8, 315x8
BB Shrug - 45x9, 135x8, 225x8, 315x8, 365x5

-good workout; energy is still high and consistent
-sumos feel odd; need to read all the articles I can, watch all the vids I can find, and video myself for help
-ATG's were easy; gonna try and beat my record of 315x17 after sumos
-setup of Thursdays will now be sumos, ATG's, then traps and/or abs

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 22 2008 2:27:11   
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Only thing I would say is watch the saturated fats - you want to watch the blood pressure and heart health

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 22 2008 12:41:01   
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Nice session.

Now, I am rubbish at pulling sumo, but I know one reason why, and thats due to me trying to pull conventional whilst in the sumo position. I end up getting no power of the floor. Sounds like your around good lifters that'll help you on your tech.

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 22 2008 21:18:21   
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hello there,,thank you for the info on anabolic diet,,looks good,when i get my butt in gear im gona give it a go,,

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RE: Keenan's "Anabolic Diet" Journal - Feb. 23 2008 14:12:27   
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quote:

Thanks mate

I'll give it a solid run, make detailed notes, and see what happens. If it doesn't work out, you can give me an "I told you so"


on the contrary mate
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