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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:32:03
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CoLFC
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2 weeks in on my epi cycle, gained about 4lb, got some decent gains already, lost body fat and my strength has rocketted, im impressed. think i've got a bit of nut shrinkage but no other sides at all. can anybody tell me what the best thing to take coming off the cycle is ? prefferably nothing too expensive, gonna use some CEE but i was lead to believe i dint need no pct, now i believe that to be wrong, any advice would be nice ??
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:39:34
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sorry mate yea i meant for pct, do i need it after epi and whats the best cheap thing to take as pct. i am planning on starting on my CEE but im doubting thats gonna cut it ?
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:40:32
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2 weeks in on my epi cycle, gained about 4lb, got some decent gains already, lost body fat and my strength has rocketted, im impressed. think i've got a bit of nut shrinkage but no other sides at all. can anybody tell me what the best thing to take coming off the cycle is ? prefferably nothing too expensive, gonna use some CEE but i was lead to believe i dint need no pct, now i believe that to be wrong, any advice would be nice ??
Your gunna need a SERM (nolva or clomid) for PCT mate. What dosage of Epi are you using?
The reason for PCT is not only just to keep your gains, its to enable your body to recover asap from the testicular shutdown caused by the steroids.
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:41:02
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2 weeks in on my epi cycle, gained about 4lb, got some decent gains already, lost body fat and my strength has rocketted, im impressed. think i've got a bit of nut shrinkage but no other sides at all. can anybody tell me what the best thing to take coming off the cycle is ? prefferably nothing too expensive, gonna use some CEE but i was lead to believe i dint need no pct, now i believe that to be wrong, any advice would be nice ??
CEE for PCT???!!!
You need to get yourself a SERM asap, eg nolvadex or clomid.
Nolva PCT protocol:
Day 1 - 60mg
Days 2 – 10: 40mg
Days 11 – 21: 20mg
Clomid PCT protocol:
Day 1 - 150mg
Days 2 – 10: 100mg
Days 11 – 21: 50mg
Some people have used a Hyperdrolx2 and Mass FX pct aswell, but IMO a SERM is cheaper and more effective.
It might be an idea to run X-lean aswell.
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:43:14
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2 weeks in on my epi cycle, gained about 4lb, got some decent gains already, lost body fat and my strength has rocketted, im impressed. think i've got a bit of nut shrinkage but no other sides at all. can anybody tell me what the best thing to take coming off the cycle is ? prefferably nothing too expensive, gonna use some CEE but i was lead to believe i dint need no pct, now i believe that to be wrong, any advice would be nice ??
CEE for PCT???!!!
You need to get yourself a SERM asap, eg nolvadex or clomid.
Nolva PCT protocol:
Day 1 - 60mg
Days 2 – 10: 40mg
Days 11 – 21: 20mg
Clomid PCT protocol:
Day 1 - 150mg
Days 2 – 10: 100mg
Days 11 – 21: 50mg
Some people have used a Hyperdrolx2 and Mass FX pct aswell, but IMO a SERM is cheaper and more effective.
It might be an idea to run X-lean aswell.
You really should of researched better than you have mate and you should of had pct in place befroe you started the cycle, roids arent nothing to play around with lol
Yeah spot on you need clomid or nolva, iwould throw in some liv 52 for liver support.
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:45:23
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30mg a day (Genera supplements) Epidrol. where is the best and cheapest place to get nolvadex or clomid ? what will happen if i dont use pct ?
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:49:19
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When the senior members see this there are going to go bonkerrrssss !!! lol be prepared CoLFC
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 14:57:03
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30mg a day (Genera supplements) Epidrol. where is the best and cheapest place to get nolvadex or clomid ? what will happen if i dont use pct ?
As you've said in a previous post you've noticed some nut shrinkage. I would imagine this is the beginning of being 'shut down', which basically means once you come off Epidrol you're not going to be having sex for a while.
I'm assuming by your lack of research that you're going to find it difficult sourcing a serm, so I will suggest you read up on "6bromo", and the products which contain it most notably HyperdrolX2 or Cissus-Drol. I would personally buy the latter, from extremesupps, and begin it at the recommended dose as soon as you finish the epidrol.
Ideally you should have a serm, so you need to begin your search for one. As serms are 'prescription' meds they're not easily bought, as say Epidrol is. You cannot simply ask someone on here either where to buy one, because that would contravene Muscletalk's rules. As a tip I will suggest you enter the words "tamoxifen citrate research chemical" into google, and have a butchers. Tamoxifen Citrate is the name for Nolvadex, and I would imagine the easiest serm to buy.
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:21:00
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Yea i've obviously messed up but an old mate of mine might be able to help me out with a serm. didnt realise epidrol needed pct at first but like a fool i've done more reading up about it after i started my cycle. if i get some pct before the end of my cycle will i be able to avoid the loss of sex drive ? and or any other sides after my cycle ?
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:24:01
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Yea i've obviously messed up but an old mate of mine might be able to help me out with a serm. didnt realise epidrol needed pct at first but like a fool i've done more reading up about it after i started my cycle. if i get some pct before the end of my cycle will i be able to avoid the loss of sex drive ? and or any other sides after my cycle ?
Yeah
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:27:17
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Yea i've obviously messed up but an old mate of mine might be able to help me out with a serm. didnt realise epidrol needed pct at first but like a fool i've done more reading up about it after i started my cycle. if i get some pct before the end of my cycle will i be able to avoid the loss of sex drive ? and or any other sides after my cycle ?
No, your diddly will fall off regardless. Seriously though, you should be fine
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:28:29
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alrate fella's thanks for the advice, i'll let you know how i get on and next time i'll do my research properly but im sh!tting it now but thanks again...
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:33:28
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sorry mate yea i meant for pct, do i need it after epi and whats the best cheap thing to take as pct. i am planning on starting on my CEE but im doubting thats gonna cut it ?
Oh dear  
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:35:48
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dont most begginers make mistakes at some point mick ? its not the end of the world anyway i'll sort somet out
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:40:09
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dont most begginers make mistakes at some point mick ? its not the end of the world anyway i'll sort somet out
Its ok making mistakes with training etc but roids are serious busniess so its not good making a mistake with them, its good you ask about pct or you could of been fcuked up after your cycle
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:51:16
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you could of been fcuked up after your cycle
Nicely put 
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RE: I Love EPI! - May 9 2008 15:51:54
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dont most begginers make mistakes at some point mick ? its not the end of the world anyway i'll sort somet out
tbh depending on your age, your natural test will come back. You won't be utterly screwed, it will just take a while for your balls to resize and for your libido to go back up. Definitely get yourself a serm, they're not expensive. IF not, use cissus drol and x lean. How long is left in your cycle?
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