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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Apr. 25 2008 12:02:55
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what doseage was she on bud?
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Apr. 25 2008 13:42:38
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Went from a touch under 11 stone to 9.5 stone. Was impressed.
Is she active/sedentary?
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Apr. 25 2008 14:36:35
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She isnt particurlarly active altho in that time she has started training with me again. She went up to 100mcg without any sides. There has been muscular loss but mostly fat. Especially noticable around her midriff, arms and top of her legs. Also the boob job she had looks tighter around the boobs as some of the fat around there has dropped away. I was impressed.
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Apr. 27 2008 11:17:00
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Put it this way - my gf has used for 10 weeks and just coming off it. I trust my knowledge and usage to provide written and empirical data for myself and her. I wouldnt risk my GFs health if I believed there was danger.
you have built a good consistant arguement in favour of its use papa, there is no doubting that. no silly quotes from daft places either and whilst your a blunt bugger  i've none the less been grateful for the input mate as you've kept me asking questions in my head about whats right and whats not and i'm always grateful of people doing that. cheers. 
what i have decided to do (being as she has gone off the idea a little) is try and attack the problem solely from a diet front. i do the cooking in this house so i can affect 2 of her meals per day with ease. the reason i dont do that at the mo is cos i'm not in favour of kids eating low fat diets which if i put her on what i eat will leave me giving them the same for ease. i've got around this by adding oils to rice and pasta, cheese on their pasta and a few other tricks. (kids should get highish good fat intake to help growth IMO so good oils and sat fats are all in).
anyway, she is happy with me doing this for now and the T3 can be used later if need be. shes a little off the idea with watching the sides i have had off it. i wasnt going to run it just yet but with her wanting to take it i said that i would (potentially, hopefully not!) posion myself first as i didnt want to hurt her with something i have bought because i dint know what to watch for. i've been quite tired, sleeping alot and surprisingly off my food which was the last thing i expected to happen though this only happened once i got to 10mcg+ (dose 125mcg for 2 weeks with the usual taper - 8 weeks total)
do you notice any sides such as those above pap, or anything else? does anyone else? been getting a swollen neck aswell in the night like you get off dbol, well like i get anyway, dunno about anyone else. a fair bit worse than dbol actually tho it isnt effecting breathing or i would of stopped the drug from the off. i start the taper down as of tomorrow anyway thankfully as i've had enough now.
ta for your input all
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Apr. 27 2008 16:20:58
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I get a little warm but thats is. I find it incredbly stong myself at 100mcg so to maintain muscle (which is something as a BBer i'm bothered by, for the GF, she's not) I use 500mg test PW. In 2 months last year I ran 100mcg ED of t3 and I went from a fat 17.7 stone to a tidy 15.4 stone. That was just 30 mins of cardio every other day, low carb meals and plenty of protein. Lifted about 4-5 times a week. Never had a single prob in term of swollen neck or owt. Are you drinking enough water? I typically drink about 2-3 pints of milk ED and about about 4-6 pints of water.
Off topic, made the mistake of drinking vodka on friday nite with red bull. Was looking at houses and drank less than normal. Because of the warm day yesterday it and the nites before drinking, i've had sore kidneys today. Which is a bummer. Need more water whilst not at the expense of food!
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Apr. 27 2008 19:04:29
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the water point might be on the money actually. i tend to have a shaker (without the lid like) with me all the time im in the house. water or juice in it and that covers fluid intake. i know people say that you should drink water only and not juice but for me if i drink juice i tend to wolf it where as water tends to sit around in the shaker - hence the juice. lately though i never seem to be in the house and i know that the fluid iuntake suffers for it. i wind up drinking crap like coca cola aswell which i know is never a good idea when i aint full of drugs, so on test and T3 it cant be clever. old habits die hard though as they say.
might be the fluid intake. tend to get it the worse lying on the bed watching tele or doing what i am doing now on the bed with the lappy. less being a lazy ass might be just the fix then! heh
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 7 2008 21:54:26
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Being new here I don't want to start in a preachy way but just think about this.
There are 168 hrs in a week. You are probably awake for 112 of them.
Maybe you work 40 hrs but that still leaves you 72.
Ok take off 30 for I dunno...general time wasting.
That still leaves you 42 hrs for what ever.
In that time all you need is 3 of those hours to workout to see a good result.
Stick the kids in front of a telly, go somewhere in another room with some free weights, stick on some music and away you go.
Even 30 mins will have a big effect.
The problem is just getting started. Once you do you will always find the time because eventually it becomes just the same as finding time to watch television, read a book, just stare into space..
And seeing the results is motivation in itself.
My son once spent 20 mins telling me all the excuses as to why he was too busy to go to the gym and I said "You could have been halfway through your routine in the time you have spent talking yourself out of it!
And he said "Jeez! You're right!
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 7 2008 21:58:15
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Sorry guys! This has ended up in a strange place. I was kind of replying to the post in which tigernut you said, that your wife couldn't, not wouldn't exercise.
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 8 2008 15:36:53
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Great post Papa!
Now where is that T3?
Oh here it is!
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 8 2008 22:13:59
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Which one bud? LOL
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 9 2008 7:51:44
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all of it mate 
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 29 2008 13:43:35
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HI!
I have tried Clen, t3 and the two together. My experience is that Clen really does work and t3 had no real effect on me. Side effects: with T3 i had nothing and with clen i had a bit of shakes for the first few days. The main thing is no matter what u take there has to be loads of cardio and training done with it!
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 29 2008 14:02:14
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Your t3 was bunk then. T3 is WAY more powerful then clen. Miles.
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - May 29 2008 23:43:28
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True. But at a normal dose (50 to 100mcg) there is no comparison IMO.
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Jun. 10 2008 23:38:57
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Clinically, it would be storing up possible future issues with metabolism and maybe fertility (un proven).
You don't say how old she is but I am guessing of child bearing age.
If she is not willing to start exercising to some degree, then her only real option is reducing calorie intake by sheer will power or going for some other non prescription appetite suppressant, which carries it's own risks.
im shocked. what exactly is T3 (no mention) hope its not EPH coz i do wanna have babies one day :(
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Jun. 11 2008 9:28:16
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T3 is liothyronine
T4 is levothyroxine
They are synthetic (man made) variants of the body's own T3/T4 hormones which are produced by the thyroid gland in the neck.
They are an advanced med used to crank up metabolic rate in an attempt to aid fat loss. Muscle losses though are a real concern at higher dosages so anabolic (steroid) support is normally employed. As I'm sure you can appreciate, steroids have their own implications in women and is a decision not to be taken without due dilligence.
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RE: women non-bodybuilders and T3 - Jun. 11 2008 17:48:18
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not necessarily true- depends on the dose
Agreed
And also on the person. There is a great deal of variation in how people react to thyroid hormones. A search of forums, a look on Pubmed, or a chat to people in gyms will reveal that across the board, there is a wide variety of response to thyroid supplementation. Some find it useless, some love it!
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