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Rob_Essex -> Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 10 2008 9:31:20)

I'm doing the 4day split for a month and havent had any trouble until now.. When I do the Barbell Bicep curl my wrists feel like their going to explode! I have Gloves with a wrist strap and the tighter I do them up the more it hurts. When their not done up, it hurts but just nowhere near as much. Should I get an EZ Bar ?

Thanks



Lord Monkcheese -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 10 2008 12:05:05)

Try this.
Put your arms by your side. Rotate your palms so your hands are facing front. How far round can you rotate them?
If they're not completely facing forwards, you're going to probably find that tryng to do the same thing but with a barbell loaded with weight is going to cause some discomfort because you haven't got the flexibility to supinate the wrists in that position.

Using an E-Z bar should alleviate the pain, but the only problem here is you put the biceps brachii in a slightly weaker positon and it is most effective when fully supinated (BB curl) rather than semi-supinated (E-Z curl). However, if you can't curl without experiencing pain, it's not going to be effective anyway.

Alternatively, use dumbbells if no E-Z bar is available.



sheriff_jonny -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 10 2008 12:32:40)

i use an ez bar, cos i get wrist pain for my bicep curls, but for wrist curls i use a straight bar. Is it your muscles that feel like they are going to explode or actual physical displacement, like non muscular pain. When i wrist curl, more than any other exercise my muscles are flaming, they feel like rock and i can hardly move them after 2 x20 sets straight and 2x20 reverse. The high reps rip my forearms up!!!



cjohn -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 10 2008 13:04:19)

You can put too much stress on your wrists if your hands are too close together

Chris



All4n -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 13 2008 21:59:07)

I've been getting bad wrist pain for a while now and EZ bar didn't actually help. I only get the pain when i'm taking my hands off the bar tho when ive finished the set. Dumbbells are ok which i presume is cos my wrists are in a natural position and not twisted.



JohnOvManchester -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 0:22:57)


quote:

ORIGINAL: All4n

I've been getting bad wrist pain for a while now and EZ bar didn't actually help. I only get the pain when i'm taking my hands off the bar tho when ive finished the set. Dumbbells are ok which i presume is cos my wrists are in a natural position and not twisted.

It's very comman and I get that, it's like shin splints up the bone of your forearm. An old physio said I need to use some dense 2" foam to make the bar much thicker (it would be about 4"? maybe more) and hold that for curls... never actually got round to doing it, stupid really as I am almost certain it's more to do with the grip.

Letting go of the bar really slowly helps stop the intense pain when letting go.

Everyone says lighten the bar but I can not bring myself to do that, I had a 20 and a 10 on either side so that's about 65+kg if you include the EZ bar and taht's about the most I have ever done and my arms are still not where I want them to be so there's no way I am lowering the weight.




sheriff_jonny -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 0:49:25)


65 kg curling is good man, i curl just over 40kg max at the mo, reckon it'll be ages till i get anywhere near 65kg



blockbuster -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 17:39:27)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnOvManchester
It's very comman and I get that, it's like shin splints up the bone of your forearm. An old physio said I need to use some dense 2" foam to make the bar much thicker (it would be about 4"? maybe more) and hold that for curls... never actually got round to doing it, stupid really as I am almost certain it's more to do with the grip.

Letting go of the bar really slowly helps stop the intense pain when letting go.


I've been suffering from this shooting forearm pain after B/B curls, at least I know it's a common thing....



sheriff_jonny -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 17:48:03)

i was curling today and my forearm caned, i had to leave tension on it and release very slowly to try and ease it



Mad Manic -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 18:15:16)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnOvManchester


quote:

ORIGINAL: All4n

I've been getting bad wrist pain for a while now and EZ bar didn't actually help. I only get the pain when i'm taking my hands off the bar tho when ive finished the set. Dumbbells are ok which i presume is cos my wrists are in a natural position and not twisted.

It's very comman and I get that, it's like shin splints up the bone of your forearm. An old physio said I need to use some dense 2" foam to make the bar much thicker (it would be about 4"? maybe more) and hold that for curls... never actually got round to doing it, stupid really as I am almost certain it's more to do with the grip.

Letting go of the bar really slowly helps stop the intense pain when letting go.

Everyone says lighten the bar but I can not bring myself to do that, I had a 20 and a 10 on either side so that's about 65+kg if you include the EZ bar and taht's about the most I have ever done and my arms are still not where I want them to be so there's no way I am lowering the weight.



Isn't the EZ Bar about 10kg, so that means you are curling 70 kg there? Impressive IMO, my guns are bigger than yours I think, but doubt I could curl 70kg on the EZ Bar. I think a problem with the EZ Bar is that it takes stress off the forearms, but IMO that's a bad thing because your biceps get stronger at a faster rate than your forearms. Normal barbell and dumbell curls also work the forearms quite hard IMO and really strengthen them, so that's why those are better all round IMO and should be included. Also some forearm work wouldn't go a miss. I think forearm pain is just your body's way of saying they need strengthening relative to your biceps, unless it's some injury.

MM



jack5r -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 18:25:46)

There have been alot of posts about this in the past so I'm not going to bother reading the replies.

One thing that may or may not have been mentioned. You can target the biceps more and take some pressure off the forearms if your use a 'suicide grip' where you do not grip around the bar with thumb. Since doing this I have had no problems with forearm pains and actualty feel my biceps doing more of the work.



sheriff_jonny -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 18:28:02)

i do plenty of forearm work, and they are hit with things such as deadlifts aswell, so there is no problems in strength mismatches. I f i was to do my curling on a straight bar i'd have to forget about training for the rest of the week, cos my wrists would be f%$^£d, thats the reason i use an ez bar.



The Iron Horse -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 14 2008 20:39:15)

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but are alternating dumbell curls more effective whilst performed sitting on an incline bench as opposed to standing? because when standing your back can sometimes take a lot of the weight/do most of the work and when the weight is too heavy people will start swinging. It seems that sitting is "better" because you can't handle as much weight as you can when standing, just checking. Thanks - Jack.



sheriff_jonny -> RE: Wrists & Barbell bicep curl (Apr. 15 2008 5:52:51)

or stand against a wall or column, i often do that at my gym



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