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You didn't specify what you meant by "results".

Training without sufficient fuel catabolises muscle so it isn't good for body comp.

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ORIGINAL: Nigeepoo

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ORIGINAL: mick_the_brick
So your body is able to process/utilise the 1kg of beef eaten in one sitting??

Eventually (after a long snooze in my case! ), yes. It's a very long sitting.

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ORIGINAL: cLaTTeReD

tell your "friend" not to be a pecker and do some test

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ORIGINAL: Integra
The first quote was a sample bulking diet plan as per James' article. I didn't know that. I don't read bulking plans! Therefore results would mean increase in lean mass.
The OP clearly stated 'Not including pre and post workout nutrition' I was in a hurry and skimmed over that bit. Ta.

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Just so I can understand this Nige...

So If I consumed a 2500 cals over 1 or 2 meals ED

versus the same amount of cals over 5 or 6 meals there

would be no difference in weight gain / weight loss etc..??

I find this very hard to believe TBH

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4. Thinking In Terms Of 24-Hour Energy Balance:

Too many people think in calories per day, total carbs per day, or grams of protein per day. Your body however, does not share this same though process. When you consume food at any time, your body will use what it can, and store the rest as fat. Amazingly, many people who know this still pay little attention to moment-to-moment energy balance.

Imagine that someone needs 300 grams of carbohydrates per day, and is trying to lose weight. They consume a large part of those during the time of day when they are less needed.

A large portion of those ends up being stored as fat. Later on, when their body needs, and can use carbohydrates, less are consumed. Glycogen stores do not get replenished to the same degree. Some protein ends up being burned as energy, because sufficient carbs were not available at that moment.

At the end of the day, weight was lost, because calories burned exceeded calories eaten. However, extra muscle tissue was lost, and less fat was burned. Possibly little to no fat may have been burned. Moment-to-moment, or hourly energy balance is much more important that daily energy balance.

Some people say that this is not necessary. Their reasoning behind this is that 'lots of people' 'get results', by only eating 2-3 meals per day. This is ridiculous, and is like saying that because some people can score decent grades on tests without studying, that studying is not important for doing well.

5. Not Paying Attention To Meal & Nutrient Timing:

As mentioned before, the amount of food consumed at any particular time is an important concept. Similar to calorie needs at any given moment, the body has specific needs for certain macronutrients at any given movement. There are times when carbohydrates are more ideal, and there are times when fats are more ideal.

Protein is needed just about all the time, but there are times when even more of it is needed. Not paying attention to this, and thinking that you are good to go just because you met your macro. Quotas, is another mistake.

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ORIGINAL: FromTheAshes
There is no shame whatsoever in doing what you need to do, to get you where you need to be. Thats resolve.

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but there would be a difference if, from nothing else, there would be an effect on their metabolisms which would surely present different results, no?

No, actually. BMR only reduces after a considerable length of time on a caloric deficit of 30% or more. BMR is the same whether you eat 1 meal a day or 6 meals a day. I've been spending a lot of time on Lyle McDonald's forums* 'cos he does all the research and he really knows his stuff.

*Nice forum http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/index.php
Sarky forum http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/forums/index.php

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ORIGINAL: Integra

If Serge Nubret spread his meals more evenly across the day would he have had a more successful bodybuilding career?

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ORIGINAL: Integra

If Serge Nubret spread his meals more evenly across the day would he have had a more successful bodybuilding career?

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ORIGINAL: makaveli1971 1996

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ORIGINAL: Integra

If Serge Nubret spread his meals more evenly across the day would he have had a more successful bodybuilding career?

I dont think so.

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ORIGINAL: ap

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ORIGINAL: Integra

If Serge Nubret spread his meals more evenly across the day would he have had a more successful bodybuilding career?

Who knows or cares. What we are discussing here applies to the masses, the majority. People like Serge Nubret are not in that bracket. Ronnie Coleman has said that he never drinks a pw shake, just eats a normal meal after training of steak and potato or whatever. Should all the majority, average bodybuilders seeking hypertrophy take this approach? No, because they don't have the superhuman genetics of Ronnie Coleman!

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ORIGINAL: ap

How did George Best, Diego Maradona and others play football the way they did boozed, smoked and coked out of their heads?

They are genetic freaks/geniuses - normal rules do not apply to genetic freaks! I need to look after my body to play at a good amateur level, but then I am not a genetic freak and different rules apply to me than those at the top of the game!

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ORIGINAL: makaveli1971 1996

I see exactly what your getting at here integra,i mean if this is the case and eating the rite amount of food at the rite times to make better gains or fat loss,over a period of time,then wheres the scientific proof?