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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 12:27:05
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So your body is able to process/utilise the 1kg of beef eaten in one sitting??  Eventually (after a long snooze in my case!  ), yes. It's a very long sitting. 
But if the body can't store amino acids, then we excrete alot of the protein after this steak right?
So interms of protein usage, eating it in small chunks through the day will be superior yes/no?
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 16:10:24
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So your body is able to process/utilise the 1kg of beef eaten in one sitting?? Eventually (after a long snooze in my case! ), yes. It's a very long sitting.
But if the body can't store amino acids, then we excrete alot of the protein after this steak right?
So interms of protein usage, eating it in small chunks through the day will be superior yes/no?
gastric emptying
Thought this may come into it, but why then are people saying the benifits to 6meals a day is to maintain stable blood sugar levels?
If were slowly digesting and releasing the carbs/fats/proteins surely 1 huge meal a day will acomplish stable blood sugars(When comparing the same foods) just like 6 would(and even if we did eat 6, we dont even know if the other has left the gut yet so we could actually be adding to the que as opposed to 'giving our body a steady flow of nutrients' that is often mentioned.
Appreciate your time in replying guys
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 16:51:39
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how did my post disappear ?
with a a larger meal there will be an initial period of rapid emptying, with a high rise in postpandrial blood glucose and a corresponding insulin response
smaller meals do not have such a rapid initial phase of GE, hence a smaller rise and fall in sugar levels
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:05:18
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It's crazy because almost every bodybuilding website, and article and everything makes it seem like a rule: eat every 2-3 hours no matter what. On Berardi's website, it says, eat every 2-3 hours under any circumstance, along with every other bodybuilding thing I have ever seen. Do you think these people just aren't rightly informed, or do they just think you will end up eating more that way?
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:08:18
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how did my post disappear ?
with a a larger meal there will be an initial period of rapid emptying, with a high rise in postpandrial blood glucose and a corresponding insulin response
smaller meals do not have such a rapid initial phase of GE, hence a smaller rise and fall in sugar levels
Is this caused by the delay between (a) the body realising its released food from stomach to the intestine to fast and (b) the hormonal/nervous impulses being recieved telling it to slowdown.
Or am i totally wrong, and if so what is the reason behind that? is it just fact that we can't avoid?
Which brings me to be Preworkout fueling, should this be done fairly early such as morning/lunch time to prepare for a workout in the evening(6-7pm) if our meals contain a big mix of fats/protein/carbs due to the body taking such a long time to digest and store the 'fuel' in our muscles?
I noticed some articles say "eat an hour before training" and other numbers which they seem to use as facts but arnt backed up by references.
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:11:16
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I think nutrient timing is far more important than whether you eat a certain number of times a day personally
theiopener, what do you mean by nutrient timing? like PWO and pre workout?
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:13:03
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Also, another thing I don't get is like my father for example, he doesn't eat much during the day and then at night he eats a big meal for dinner. he doesn't eat much during the day because he loves to eat a big dinner and wants to lose weight. And EVERYONE tells him, you will lose weight better if you eat more smaller meals throughout the day. Is this also just a myth? I feel like everyone always says that.
Also, they always claim that it speeds up your metabolism
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:20:40
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I think nutrient timing is far more important than whether you eat a certain number of times a day personally
theiopener, what do you mean by nutrient timing? like PWO and pre workout?
Yeup. PWO is generally a great time to ram in calories as would be breakfast. you can have smaller sized meals throughout the day and larger ones around training and other times.
I just find from personal experience if i have a large amount of cals and carbs after training i dont feel as hungry or want to snack [than?] if i space it out evenly
is that suppose to have a than in, or do you find well spaced meals better ? just wondered
Preworkout is a subject i need to read up on for sure, any good links? ty
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:21:29
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Is there a debate whether or not eating more meals throughout the day speeds up your metabolism, or does it definitely not?
I'm still confused because lets say someone doesn't do well with carbs (i guess this is called they are carb sensitive), if they eat a deficit of calories but lots of carbs, dont they still HAVE to lose weight? Like what changes between someone who is carb sensitive and carb insensitive, how does the carb sensitive person just get fat from carbs even if they aren't in a surplus? I guess this is where they lose 'weight' but gain 'fat'???
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:23:08
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Also, another thing I don't get is like my father for example, he doesn't eat much during the day and then at night he eats a big meal for dinner. he doesn't eat much during the day because he loves to eat a big dinner and wants to lose weight. And EVERYONE tells him, you will lose weight better if you eat more smaller meals throughout the day. Is this also just a myth? I feel like everyone always says that.
Also, they always claim that it speeds up your metabolism
overall calories are the key. as lons as EFA plus protein needs are met
when and how these are portioned matters very little
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:24:41
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Is there a debate whether or not eating more meals throughout the day speeds up your metabolism, or does it definitely not?
I'm still confused because lets say someone doesn't do well with carbs (i guess this is called they are carb sensitive), if they eat a deficit of calories but lots of carbs, dont they still HAVE to lose weight? Like what changes between someone who is carb sensitive and carb insensitive, how does the carb sensitive person just get fat from carbs even if they aren't in a surplus? I guess this is where they lose 'weight' but gain 'fat'???
Take special care with the words being used mate.
losing fat, is totally different to "weight" even though most people mean "losing fat" when they sya "they want to lose weight" of course.
TIO above used the word FAT, so he would lose WEIGHT on a deficit but that WEIGHT may be Muscle, Water and other sources that his body broke down for energy.
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RE: Timings - Overrated or Underrated? - Apr. 16 2008 17:33:13
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Is there a debate whether or not eating more meals throughout the day speeds up your metabolism, or does it definitely not?
I'm still confused because lets say someone doesn't do well with carbs (i guess this is called they are carb sensitive), if they eat a deficit of calories but lots of carbs, dont they still HAVE to lose weight? Like what changes between someone who is carb sensitive and carb insensitive, how does the carb sensitive person just get fat from carbs even if they aren't in a surplus? I guess this is where they lose 'weight' but gain 'fat' some do better on low carbs . inactive folks with poor insulin resistance tend to be some of themsome. i although the exact physiological reasons are unknown. psycholocigally carbs are far too easy to overconsume .
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TIO above used the word FAT, so he would lose WEIGHT on a deficit but that WEIGHT may be Muscle, Water and other sources that his body broke down for energy
as long as pro, EFAs needs are met, all else is of little consequence
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