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Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 12:40:35
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Alright Guys!!
I've been seeing some good gains since I started pushing weight back in Feb but my arms don't really seem to be getting that big unless I proper tense them up or after a workout. Strength has increased in my biceps & triceps but not much....My chest, back & Legs have got pretty big but my arms still look pretty skinny and way out of proportion to the rest of my body!!
I have noticed looking around my gym that most of the guys with big arms also have big bulging veins!! I however do not have bulging veins, even when I workout my veins don't bulge....could this be why I'm not getting the arms I'd like?? Perhaps I have some blood circulation problem in my arms I'm confused  !!
Can anyone of you guys with experience shed some light on this matter!! Cheers for looking!
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 12:43:27
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'Bulging' veins or visable vascularity is a sign of low bodyfat mate.It's also quite possible the guys down the gym with big arms and bulging veins are on gear as this increases size and vascularity  It's unlikely that circulation is the problem ( if indeed you have one ) with your arms 
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 12:58:48
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Ok thanks for the info feedback! I still can't work out why my arms don't wanna grow like rest of my body!! !!
Whats your routine like ? not just your arms but all your workouts ?
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 13:48:14
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Well, I was doin cashmans routine for beginners for 12 weeks & now I've just started Frankies routine this week.
Pull Day:
Deadlift 120kg - 5x5
Dumb bell rows 30kg - 5x5
Barbel Curls 32.5Kg - 5x5
Push Day:
DB bench press 32.5Kg - 5x5
DB shoulder press 25Kg - 5x5
Close grip bench 55Kg - 5x5
Legs:
Squats 100Kg - 5x5
Stiff leg Deads 75Kg - 5x5
Calf raises 95Kg - 3x12 (thats the stand up machine thing)
Weighted crunches 15kg plate - 3x12
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 13:52:07
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Thats a sound routine you probably just need to be patient mate
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 13:56:20
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I like that routine. In my experience, arms don't grow aswell as larger muscle with low reps. Your current 5x5 will see good strength gains in your arms however, your arms will grow better with slightly higher reps. Strength and size are two different things.
Strength wise, your compound lifts are better than mine. My arms are nearly exactly the same as yours though. I guess I put this down to training arms twice a week.
You could train arms twice a week. I currently do this.
Here's my routine.
Monday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps:
Bench - 5x5
Inc Bench - 5x5
Military Press - 5x5 - (If 5 reps cannot be completed I will Push Press to complete the 5)
Close Grip Bench // Upright Rows - Super Set - 4x6 // 4x6
Tuesday - Back/Biceps:
Deadlift - 5x5
Weighted Chins - 4x6
Rows - 5x6
BB Curls - 4x8
Thursday - Legs/Abs (No squat rack)
Leg press - 5x5
Leg Curls - 4x6
Bulgarian Squats - 4x6
Calf Raises - 3 sets
Abs Super Setted with Calf Raises.
Friday - Shoulders/Triceps/Biceps: (Isolation + Power work)
Clean and Press - 5x5
Snatches Thinking about adding these.
Lateral Raises // BB Curl - Super Set - 4x8 // 4x8
Concentation Curls // Skull Crushers - Super Set - 4x8 // 4x6
Tricep Dips // Grip work - Super Set - 4x8 // 4 sets
If you are after arm size, direct work is important. My goals are overall strength improvments in my compounds. Size, mainly in my arms though.
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 14:04:29
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Ok, say when I stop doing this routine & do a routine that isolates biceps and that. What sort of rep & set range should I look to do for bigger arms??
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 14:09:36
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Well generally speaking if you are looking for size you work with reps of 8-12. The idea is to cause as much micro-truama in the muscles as possable. Working with higher reps mean the muscle in under stress for a longer period of time, and simply speaking this will improve size gains. The idea of training for strength with lower reps is to put maximum stress on the muscle with a very heavy load.
This is why, with my current goals I have chosen lower reps for compounds and highers reps for my arms. As my goals change so will my routine.
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 14:27:01
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Cool, sound advice again!! Cheerz dude!!
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 16:02:57
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From experience, arms need to be stimulated hard with high volume, on an arms day or with bis and tris seperated from back and chest so you can hit them fresh. Arms take a lot of work IMO to grow to the size/proportion that we as BBers want, so treat them with the importance they deserve. I don't think the split you suggested is good for things like arms, shoulders, calves, etc. but work better for the bigger muscle groups.
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 16:07:01
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IMO do this...
- Weighted dips x 3 + extra weight superset each set with Cable Pulldown
- Seated DB Curls x 10 x 4
- Concentration Curls x 10 x 4
- Seated BB Burl x 10 x 4
- Close Grip bench x 10 x 4
- EzBar Skulls x 10 x 4
- Cable Curls using crossover machine
Has taken me up 1" in the last 3 months, veins appeared down centre of arms plus numerous other crossover veins appearing on arms and forearms.
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 16:09:43
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ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou
IMO do this...
- Weighted dips x 3 + extra weight superset each set with Cable Pulldown
- Seated DB Curls x 10 x 4
- Concentration Curls x 10 x 4
- Seated BB Burl x 10 x 4
- Close Grip bench x 10 x 4
- EzBar Skulls x 10 x 4
- Cable Curls using crossover machine
Has taken me up 1" in the last 3 months, veins appeared down centre of arms plus numerous other crossover veins appearing on arms and forearms.
Yes exactly, hitting the arms hard and intense with high volume is the way forward to get them growing like we want.
MM
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 16:58:40
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Ok Papa Lazarou, still abit of a newbie to this but what does IMO mean?? The exercises that you've listed could I imply these into my current routine or would I have to change my routine completely??
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 11 2008 19:16:40
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IMO = In my opinion.
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 12 2008 0:01:22
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I recon high reps, low weight or High weight low reps, it does not matter, it is the amount of stress placed on the muscle which really matters.
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 12 2008 1:16:54
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I recon high reps, low weight or High weight low reps, it does not matter, it is the amount of stress placed on the muscle which really matters.
Wise words mate, wise words, totally agree.
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 12 2008 2:28:21
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imo the best rep range for small muscle groups and especially the biceps is 4 x 10 its what im on and i grown well, and gave vascularity running from my shoulder through bicep to forearm. btw jack and papa love those routines have save tem for later when i need some inspiration/ideas
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RE: Big Arms, Bulging veins......?? - Apr. 12 2008 12:33:31
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Hello mate welcome to MT.
Ok i'll give my 2 pennies worth here. I've always relied on proven lifts for all of my routines. Im currently on Madcows Linear routine as i fancied a return to a 3 X weekly full body. The only Barbell exercise in this routine is barbell curls..which for me will mean Straight olympic barbell bar curls. The biceps will get hit doing barbell rows, deads and chins/pull ups so in alot of cases i dont think its nessecary to add in a ton of isolation lifts. Your routine is a good solid routine based on proven lifts and similar to the ones i've always stuck to through 7+ years of lifting. You could try making the Barbell Curls 3-4 x 8 or put close grip under arm chins in their place. Give it time and if it doesnt work alter it. Its all about applying, monitoring and adjusting as what works for one guy may not work for the next. Stick to what your doing mate...possibly put the barbell curls in a 3 X 8 or 4 X 8 set/rep scheme and see how it goes. Lift hard, heavy and intense,keep sessions short and brutal and they should be productive IMO.
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