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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 26 2008 20:08:30
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i think its dropped from your hips mainly mate, looks good, keep it up! 
Thank you! That's what I thought, I'm glad it's not just my imagination lol. I could do with it coming off my face too, I have such a "moonface" as the guys on irc call it lol.
That may be down to the gear youre on mate.
Perhaps when youre dont with PCT perhaps try a bit of water manipulation to see what you look like dry as a bone
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 26 2008 21:21:35
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i think its dropped from your hips mainly mate, looks good, keep it up!
Thank you! That's what I thought, I'm glad it's not just my imagination lol. I could do with it coming off my face too, I have such a "moonface" as the guys on irc call it lol.
That may be down to the gear youre on mate.
Perhaps when youre dont with PCT perhaps try a bit of water manipulation to see what you look like dry as a bone
Do you mean taking a diuretic supplement? I've got SAN Shredded waiting to be ran.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 26 2008 21:23:13
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Do you mean taking a diuretic supplement? I've got SAN Shredded waiting to be ran.
no as im carb depletion and loading, sodium and water manipulation and taking a mild natural diuretic. you can drop 10lbs of water and look fooking mega
im trying it out myself soon 
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 26 2008 22:45:37
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Right. Sounds amazingly complicated. Is there something I can read which will sum everything up for me?
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 28 2008 10:56:11
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Missing training today. Massive, massive fight last night with my babies mum, loads of trouble. I'll be back on track tomorrow though.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 28 2008 11:15:56
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Keep strong mate. Good progress thus far.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 28 2008 13:08:29
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Tom, your progress pics are great mate... Keep up the good log 
Dont mean to hijack, but just a caution to Celt regarding Venom! I tried this when the V.3 came out, it's an awesome appetite supressant, i couldnt manage more than a couple of meals a day! BUT there are some major side i personally had when using this: cotton wool mouth! mega tension headaches, felt depressed and very emotional (one day I just darted out of work, jumped in the car and brokedown in to a nervous wreck  ) the stim affect is strong, I felt jittery all the time on this. Oh not to mention the loss of sex drive, my girlfriend thought i'd gone off her lol!! I still have half a tub left, which will probably go in the bin.
I'm on recreate like Tom, and really like it so far
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 28 2008 15:50:02
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Tom, your progress pics are great mate... Keep up the good log
Dont mean to hijack, but just a caution to Celt regarding Venom! I tried this when the V.3 came out, it's an awesome appetite supressant, i couldnt manage more than a couple of meals a day! BUT there are some major side i personally had when using this: cotton wool mouth! mega tension headaches, felt depressed and very emotional (one day I just darted out of work, jumped in the car and brokedown in to a nervous wreck ) the stim affect is strong, I felt jittery all the time on this. Oh not to mention the loss of sex drive, my girlfriend thought i'd gone off her lol!! I still have half a tub left, which will probably go in the bin.
I'm on recreate like Tom, and really like it so far
I've had a lot of explaining to do in the past, from going to 3 times a day while on cycle, to once a week coming off. Women always think it's them lol.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 28 2008 19:15:55
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lol...
hows it going other than the fight?
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 28 2008 21:03:41
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lol...
hows it going other than the fight?
I'm feeling a lot better thanks. Not a nice experience being assaulted while you hold your child but things seem to be getting sorted now, hopefully for the best.
I'm looking forward to training tomorrow, I'm gonna make a meal of it. I'm not confident I'll drop my bodyfat too much this week so I think I'll use the week experimenting with my training. I'm going to completely revamp my leg and back workout and put that into effect this week. I'm going to begin legs with squats from now on, and finish squats with a 50 rep drop set. I'm going to split my back workouts into an alternate widening/thickness workout, so one week I'll do wide grip pullups, 1 arm rows, wide grip rows etc, then the next week bent over rows, narrow grip rows etc.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 28 2008 21:35:39
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lol...
hows it going other than the fight?
I'm feeling a lot better thanks. Not a nice experience being assaulted while you hold your child but things seem to be getting sorted now, hopefully for the best.
I'm looking forward to training tomorrow, I'm gonna make a meal of it. I'm not confident I'll drop my bodyfat too much this week so I think I'll use the week experimenting with my training. I'm going to completely revamp my leg and back workout and put that into effect this week. I'm going to begin legs with squats from now on, and finish squats with a 50 rep drop set. I'm going to split my back workouts into an alternate widening/thickness workout, so one week I'll do wide grip pullups, 1 arm rows, wide grip rows etc, then the next week bent over rows, narrow grip rows etc.
Sounds awefull mate, hope everything is ok.
although quite a few of the pros do that with their back, i wouldnt say you need to split it into two workouts its defo one of your strong points mate.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 29 2008 15:02:03
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Oh I didn't realise the pro's did that, I just thought of it one day lol. I like chopping and changing so I might see how it goes for a couple of weeks, I can always change back.
Strength was down considerably today. Shows how much stress and diet can affect your workout. I got my cardio done, as well as the majority of my weights. I'll do a proper update later.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 29 2008 19:35:27
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Day 16 - Chest / Triceps
Supplements
Epistane: 10mg 9am / 10mg 9pm
Proviron: 25mg 9am / 25mg 9pm
Methoxy-TRN: 3mg 9am / 1.5mg 9pm
ReCreate: 2 caps 8:30am / 1 cap 1pm
ALCAR: 2grams 9am / 2grams 3pm / 2grams 9pm
Yohimbine: 5mg 9am / 5mg 8pm
ThermoGlide: 1 rub (wink wink) 9am / 1 rub (ding dong) 9pm
Meals
9:00am: 50g oats, 20g whey
1:00pm: 20g whey
2:00pm: tin of tuna mixed with big tin of mackeral, on wholemeal bread with salad
4:30pm: 2 handfulls of nuts
6:00pm: Beans on toast :(
10pm: 250gram tub of quark, options sachet
Training - *Dumbell weights are per dumbell and not total weight*
15mins crosstrainer, 11-13kph, hill setting level 14
Bench press: bar 30r, 60kg 15r, 60kg 15r, 80kg 5r, 80kg 7r - Drop set: 60kg 10r, 50kg 5r, 40kg 5r, 30kg 7r, 20kg 10r
Incline DB press: 25kg 10r, 10r, 10r
Rope pulldowns: 35kg 10r, 30kg 10r, 35kg 10r
Dips: 10r, 10r, 10r
Wide grip dips: 10r, 8r, 7r
Narrow grip bench: 40kg 15r, 50kg 8r, 50kg 8r, 50kg 8r, 50kg 8r
30mins treadmill, 6kph, hill setting 18
Narrative
Weights were very difficult today. I seemed to start well on the bench but my strength just gave up when I got to 80kg. I felt weak all round, was shakey on the dips and my rope pulldown strength was shot to buggery. I got most of it done though so I think considering my weekend I did ok. I hope Thursday goes a lot better than this.
Cardio was fine. I lowered the intensity on both the crosstrainer (from hill setting 14 to 13) and treadmill (hill setting 18 back to 17). I just felt on the higher settings I was becoming a little too fatigued and it wasn't strictly SSCV.
Diet hasn't been too good. Had some comfort food last night but I've managed to stay ok today I guess. I don't think beans on wholemeal toast is THAT bad for you, although it could be better. I'm not expecting any major drops in bodyfat this week, I'll be happy it I can remain at 16% to be honest.
I'm spending the day with Jake tomorrow, and I think I'll be taking him to Buxton for a picnic on Saturday. He's finally going to meet my new girlfriend, a concession my ex has allowed considering the way she acted at the weekend, lucky me. I'm just going to focus on the good times I have with my son. On Monday I lay him on my bed and he was smiling and gurgling and reaching for me. It's obvious he knows who I am, it's amazing. We watched Disney's Atlantis together and he was watching it, no doubt about it. Eyes open, staring at the monitor and if I turned him around his eyes kept focus on the screen. Such an overwhelming feeling holding your son and caring for him.
Anyway. I've still been using that ThermoGlide, the topical fat loss stick. I kind of think it works. I know it's difficult to be 100% certain but I've definately lost fat off the areas I'm rubbing it. Also, today, I rubbed it in with my fingers and about 30 seconds later my fingers began to heat up and you could literally feel the heat coming off them.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 30 2008 13:48:31
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Just read through the journal.
Good luck with everything firest0rm
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 30 2008 14:07:39
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i wouldnt panic about strength being down, the end of the day your in an energy defecit if it didnt happen then i would be shocked.
Are you planning on doing any refeed's?
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 30 2008 15:04:35
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Tom remember what i said mate strength will take a slight dip, anything between 10-15% is expected to get real lean. Crack on mate you will do well, dont let it mess with you!
Im also available by email if you have any questions or need reassuring, come on do us proud 
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 30 2008 17:35:43
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Thanks guys. Today I had Jake, I tried to keep diet on track but I didn't eat as much as normal. Sarah has to go to anger management I think so hopefully she'll calm down and leave me alone.
AJ; what's refeed?
And thanks TIO. I think I just got used to breaking personal bests lol.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 30 2008 17:47:50
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A re-feed is exactly what it says on the tin mate. Kinda like a day off the diet. Eat very very strict for 6 days then have a bit of a blow out one day per week. Try to stay away from rubbish, but it won't hurt to have a day of good carbs to get your body going again.
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RE: The way of the firestorm... (Heavy supplementation ... - Apr. 30 2008 18:15:45
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Ahh right got ya. Yea sounds like a good idea.
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