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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:24:55
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James
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theres more ppl in here to answer lol
Mate - the D&N forum is very busy too - I'm sure you can wait an extra half an hour for your reply.
What would be the point of seperate forums if everyone thought like you?
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:28:55
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My calculations make it more like 700g.
Still too much. Jack - as your weight increases, are you still going to increase calories accordingly?
Depending on whether you count raw or cooked weight!
Overkill either way
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:31:09
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92kg and 330g protein per day. No idea if that's excessive, but I think I could power the whole house if I could hook my backside up to a turbine. In fact, I could probably sell excess power back to the National Grid!
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:35:40
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400g from all sources (on training days), i'm about 225.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:36:55
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Proctimus Prime
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I don't know where you guys are getting your chicken?!
Chicken i get is just over 20g protein per 100g raw chicken. 200g of protein from chicken i would have to cook a 1kg of it! I cook 400g a day and thats me sorted for two meals.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:38:36
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Lord Monkcheese
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Depending on whether you count raw or cooked weight!
Without having to go home and weigh my meat before and after cooking, is there much of a difference?
And does 500g of raw chicken have more or less protein than 500g of cooked chicken?
Is it like eggs where cooking the meat makes more protein available?
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:40:09
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The chicken breast we normaly get is 32g protein per 100g.
32x6= 192.
I said just over 600g. The exact amount would be 625g of chicken. There is also protein in seeds, nuts, oats etc. Quick question, I remeber someone asking if the protein in oats (8g of protein per 100g ish) and other 'carbs', pasta, bread etc... were as usefull as the protein from meat. I don't remember the answer though?
I wake up at 8 and go to bed at 1. Thats a 17 hour day. If I was to eat a meal every 2-3 hours thats about 6-8 meals a day. 350/6-8= 43-58. So thats only about 40-60g of protein a meal. Hardly a HUGE amount.
Lord Monkcheese - I have kept my intake from solid food about the same over the last few months. Just increased whey and carbs as my BW has increased. For the summer I will be trying to cut a little bf so if anything I will be lowering my cals.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:41:17
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Proctimus Prime
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Depending on whether you count raw or cooked weight!
Without having to go home and weigh my meat before and after cooking, is there much of a difference?
And does 500g of raw chicken have more or less protein than 500g of cooked chicken?
Is it like eggs where cooking the meat makes more protein available?
Chicken weighs less after its been cooked as it loses water. So 500g of cooked chicken contains more protein than 500g of raw.
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The chicken breast we normaly get is 32g protein per 100g.
Thats some pretty fine chicken!
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:44:28
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Lord Monkcheese
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Cheers.
Further to that then, do the nutritional values on the packaging relate to cooked or raw weight?
I could always simply look at the packet when I get home but that's not for several hours so I'll ask you lot.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:46:10
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Proctimus Prime
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Cheers.
Further to that then, do the nutritional values on the packaging relate to cooked or raw weight?
I could always simply look at the packet when I get home but that's not for several hours so I'll ask you lot.
Nutritional values on packaging is always raw weight to my knowledge. Whenever i quote chicken weight its always raw, as weight can vary depending on the way you cook it.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:47:00
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The chicken breast we normaly get is 32g protein per 100g.
link please?
Is it raw or cooked weight you are calculating from?
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Cheers.
Further to that then, do the nutritional values on the packaging relate to cooked or raw weight?
I could always simply look at the packet when I get home but that's not for several hours so I'll ask you lot.
unless stated then raw i think
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:49:14
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Chicken weighs less after its been cooked as it loses water. So 500g of cooked chicken contains more protein than 500g of raw.
eg 500g raw chicken might contain 20g protein/100 =100 g protein
Once cooked it has shrunk to 400g due to water lost but still has 100g protein in it so now has 25g/100 weight
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:50:59
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The chicken breast we normaly get is 32g protein per 100g.
link please?
Is it raw or cooked weight you are calculating from?
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Cheers.
Further to that then, do the nutritional values on the packaging relate to cooked or raw weight?
I could always simply look at the packet when I get home but that's not for several hours so I'll ask you lot.
unless stated then raw i think
It's from Sainsbury's and we normaly get it in the big packs which come in a plastic bag style container. Each breast inside the pack is in it's own little plastic sleave. Fancy chicken  .
It was 32g of protein per 100g and about 42g of protein per breast (130g ish).
As far as I know this was the raw value.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:51:56
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Lord Monkcheese
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eg 500g raw chicken might contain 20g protein/100 =100 g protein
Once cooked it has shrunk to 400g due to water lost but still has 100g protein in it so now has 25g/100 weight
Cool.
I had this horrible thought that I might have to increase all my food intake. It's difficult enough eating what I eat now, let alone having to add extra to compensate for raw -> cooked weight.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:52:01
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Proctimus Prime
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Chicken weighs less after its been cooked as it loses water. So 500g of cooked chicken contains more protein than 500g of raw.
eg 500g raw chicken might contain 20g protein/100 =100 g protein
Once cooked it has shrunk to 400g due to water lost but still has 100g protein in it so now has 25g/100 weight
Yep, proteins not lost in the cooking process, but some of the weight of the chicken is.
Thats why im inclined to think that Jack quote of 32g per 100g is cooked rather than raw.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:52:48
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Around 160g on average, but i aim for 200g.
i'm 168lbs and cutting, i could do with more and lately have been working it up.
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:54:53
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It's from Sainsbury's and we normaly get it in the big packs which come in a plastic bag style container. Each breast inside the pack is in it's own little plastic sleave. Fancy chicken .
It was 32g of protein per 100g and about 42g of protein per breast (130g ish).
As far as I know this was the raw value.
are they breaded or anything?
32g raw weight is impossible im afraid
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 15:59:12
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richsINS
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It's from Sainsbury's and we normaly get it in the big packs which come in a plastic bag style container. Each breast inside the pack is in it's own little plastic sleave. Fancy chicken .
It was 32g of protein per 100g and about 42g of protein per breast (130g ish).
As far as I know this was the raw value.
are they breaded or anything?
32g raw weight is impossible im afraid
I eat the same sainsburys chicken, 32g raw per 100g it says.
Why is it impossible?
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RE: weight and protein intake please - Apr. 15 2008 16:01:42
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My calculations make it more like 700g.
Still too much. Jack - as your weight increases, are you still going to increase calories accordingly?
Depending on whether you count raw or cooked weight!
Overkill either way
thas made me think, when measuring cals in meat do u go off raw weight or cooked weight????
EDIT sorry ive just read this was answerd above
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