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Diet around boxing - Apr. 15 2008 15:56:29
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darkershade
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I will be training thai boxing on wednesdays at 18:15 till 19:15
Food in the day will be:
09:00
25g whey and 3 eggs with spinach
11:15
150g lean mince steak fried in olive oil
tomatoes, onions, mushrooms
14:00
100g chicken and 70g mackeral
Peppers
Seeing as i'd be training at 18:15 i am guessing it would be fine to eat at 16:30 right?
So how what could i eat around thai boxing and what timings would be best?
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 15 2008 16:04:11
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4.30 should be fine.
Where are your carbs,,,thai is very demanding and very physical...include rice ,jacket potato , pasta,oats into your diet
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 15 2008 16:22:13
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I'm cutting so could i just have carbs around training?
09:00
25g whey and 3 eggs with spinach
11:15
150g lean mince steak fried in olive oil
tomatoes, onions, mushrooms
14:00
100g chicken and 70g mackeral
Peppers
16:30
3 slices of bugen and voyels linseed bread
tin of tuna with 2 tblspn of cottage cheese
17:15 train
18:15 finish - do i need fast carbs and protein here?
19:00 some form of protein and carbs (how much and any ideas?)
22:00
tin tuna and 30g peanut butter or 2 of gaz's protein bars
01:00
40g bedtime extreme and 30g flaxseed powder
Bit more detailed so hopefullyi get some more responses.
I feel with so many meals i may be going over the amount of protein i need.
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 15 2008 20:21:40
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darkershade
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Thanks mate, anyone else?
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 15 2008 20:36:14
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Looking at that mate you have a general lack of carbs.
In the morning you could have a bowl of cereal
At 11 there are none to speak of
At 14 there a lot of protein and no carbs
Even if you are cutting you don't need to leave carbs out, just have the right sort at the right times.
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 15 2008 21:18:56
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darkershade
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well carbs are high the day before and after as that's when training is.
Maybe have carbs at breakfast, before and after training, like i do with weight days yes?
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 15 2008 21:49:47
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yep, deffo at breakfast... cereal is ideal IMO
a small amount of carbs (a couple of oat cakes etc) mid morning would be protein sparing... you do weights so you don't want the protein being used as fuel
and more carbs like rice or pasta along with your protein before training to fuel your training for performance reasons
directly after training whey protein is OK on it's own but in your main meal @ 19:00 just have a normal amount like a couple of med-large potatoes with some steak/chicken/fish + lots of veg
as you are cutting just keep lowering overall potion sizes, if you are not loosing enough fat either up cardio a bit more or cut portion sizes a bit more
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 16 2008 14:09:40
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ok taken on board
is bread ok before thai boxing, and pasta after for carbs?
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 16 2008 14:39:13
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quote:
ORIGINAL: JohnOvManchester
yep, deffo at breakfast... cereal is ideal IMO
a small amount of carbs (a couple of oat cakes etc) mid morning would be protein sparing... you do weights so you don't want the protein being used as fuel
and more carbs like rice or pasta along with your protein before training to fuel your training for performance reasons
directly after training whey protein is OK on it's own but in your main meal @ 19:00 just have a normal amount like a couple of med-large potatoes with some steak/chicken/fish + lots of veg
as you are cutting just keep lowering overall potion sizes, if you are not loosing enough fat either up cardio a bit more or cut portion sizes a bit more
Sorry mate why would carbs mid morning be beneficial if i am sedentary at that time anyway?
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 16 2008 18:55:30
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A small amount of carbs mid morning to spare the protein, your body will still use a small amount and if you don't have a small amount your body might use some of the protein for energy.
The bread at 16:30 is fine mate.
The pasta after is good too.
Any carbs after that should be as mid morning, make sure the are fairly low GI... oat cakes are great especially with a low fat cheese spread.
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 16 2008 18:57:16
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PS... don't have the exact same thing day in day out. Differant foods have differant benifits so swap some in and out, carb for carb, protein for protein fat for fat etc
Have a look at this list:
Carbohydrates (main source of your bodies fuel / energy)
Oats
Sweet Potato
Potato
Wholegrain Bread
Basmati/Long Grain Rice
Pasta
Muesli (natural no sugar added)
Weetabix
Fibrous Carbohydrates (secondary source of fuel / energy but vital for healthy digestive system)
Swede
Beetroot
Onions
Tomatoes
Radishes
Spinach
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Carrots
Peppers
Celery
Cabbage
Lettuce
Cucumber
Mushrooms
Squash
Green beans
Brussel sprouts
Protein (your bodies building blocks - builds muscle tissue)
Chicken
Lean Red Meat
Tuna
Mackerel
Salmon
Cottage Cheese
Haddock
Turkey
Sardines
Kippers
Whey Protein shakes
Milk
Quorn
Fromage Frais and Yogurts
Seeds
Eggs
Bacon
Good Fats (+EFAs) (dense calories / needed for general health, immune system, mood and hormones)
Olives
Olive Oil
Flax Seeds/Linseed
Flax Oil
Almonds
Cashews
Nut Butters (hazel/almond/cashew/peanut)
Fatty Fish (kippers/sardines/mackerel/salmon/pilchards)
Avocados
Nut Oils
Columbus Eggs/DHA eggs
Seeds
Macadamia nuts
UDOs Oil
Fish Oils such as EPA oil and salmon oil
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 17 2008 12:06:55
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yeah mate im with John on the fact that your carb intake isnt very high maybe have some porridge in the morning try not to eat anything after 4.30 because it will make you feel tired and bloated when you go to thai i know from experience
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RE: Diet around boxing - Apr. 17 2008 14:37:37
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A small amount of carbs mid morning to spare the protein, your body will still use a small amount and if you don't have a small amount your body might use some of the protein for energy.
The bread at 16:30 is fine mate.
The pasta after is good too.
Any carbs after that should be as mid morning, make sure the are fairly low GI... oat cakes are great especially with a low fat cheese spread.
So my body will use protein for fuel if i have protein and fat meals, even when sedentary?
If this is true then why does a standard cutting diet have fat and pro only meals?
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