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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 13:53:50
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tut...
its wassssssaaaaaaaa eeeeeeeeee
you have to go all high and tight at the end.... usually after the moment of impact
wassssssaaaaa *impact* eeeeeeeeee
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 13:56:03
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...and add a "oo ooo ooo ooo", like when he kicks the **** out of Mr han in Enter the Dragon.
And you have to be able to do that cheek wobbling **** like when he does a slo-mo flying kick and when he stamps on O'Hara's bollocks.
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 13:59:09
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hmmmm...i remember now...it all becomes clear....
when kicking you have to let out a 'waaaa taaaa' followed by a cracking sound
if 3 punches are unleashed its usually a waaa paa paaahhh followed by the 'fap, pap donk' sound
i am skilled in the ways of the sound effect
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 14:02:38
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Being a mma geek and big fan i would liek to say that the comment refered to UFC Guys on Gear is not the case as they are tested for drugs.
Its possiable a lot of them do Circurt tranning.
Look ar Randy Corture Big Muscle guy, Or Ken shamrock
Cant find a photo But J-Rock off the TUF 6 Omg he looked liek a BB not a Fighter!
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 14:06:00
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UFC Guys on Gear is not the case
I find this incredulous to say the least, but its not my concern so, meh.
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 16 2008 14:33:57
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i'm finding it a hinderance... i'm limited by the techniques i can use for BJJ due to leg size.
More muscle = more energy burned = gas quicker
fighters should never train like bodybuilders, the two training styles to not mix... slow steady reps vs explosive movements.
unless your cardio is top notch, you will gas
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A fighter has no business following a bodybuilding routine. Bodybuilding emphasizes aesthetics. The activity involves posing various muscle groups for a panel of judges. There is no concern for athletic qualities such as speed, power, and endurance. An athlete trains for function. A fighter will not gain points on the judge’s scorecard by crafting a symmetrical pair of pectoral muscles. To compare strength training for a fighter to bodybuilding is like comparing a fresh orange to an artificial apple.
You got some fair mass though mate, how do you train?
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 14:36:30
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Training like a bodybuilder is out, of course. Forget that
But you can carry a decent amount of muscle and fight. You can build muscle with strength training. Look at heavyweight boxers, or even some heavyweight MMA guys. Quite a few are muscular, although I should say that by muscular I do not mean pro bber or strongman muscular, but I do mean more muscular than 90% of people on bodybuilding forums and in gyms across the country
I am personally against carrying much muscle on the legs, but maybe that is just me. A few do manage this and do it well. Jeff Monson springs to mind, for example. He has very thick legs
I think it really just depends on how you carry it. Being muscular can work for some, and not for others
Well i never wanted to look pro bodybuilder anyway just be bigger than average and toned...
What do you guess a training routine would look like for the above mentioned?
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 14:41:32
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This is the team he trains with
http://www.americantopteam.com/
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 14:47:21
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competely off topic, but why is there a different thread title when i click on the 2nd page of this topic? 'patron saint of 9 stone weaklings' but that isnt what the topic is named as 
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 16 2008 14:49:01
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ORIGINAL: MMA Guy
i'm finding it a hinderance... i'm limited by the techniques i can use for BJJ due to leg size.
More muscle = more energy burned = gas quicker
fighters should never train like bodybuilders, the two training styles to not mix... slow steady reps vs explosive movements.
unless your cardio is top notch, you will gas
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A fighter has no business following a bodybuilding routine. Bodybuilding emphasizes aesthetics. The activity involves posing various muscle groups for a panel of judges. There is no concern for athletic qualities such as speed, power, and endurance. An athlete trains for function. A fighter will not gain points on the judge’s scorecard by crafting a symmetrical pair of pectoral muscles. To compare strength training for a fighter to bodybuilding is like comparing a fresh orange to an artificial apple.
You got some fair mass though mate, how do you train?
check my journal, the links in my sig 
ask any questions you like there mate
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RE: Patron Saint of 9 Stone Weaklings - Apr. 16 2008 15:35:10
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Being a mma geek and big fan i would liek to say that the comment refered to UFC Guys on Gear is not the case as they are tested for drugs.
did you know olympic athletes are drug tested, american footballers, baseball players, rugby players etc they still use steroids.
as said thats not the point of the thread. so i'll not argue it. just let you believe as a mma geek that nobody uses gear in that sport.
i'll add that diet is key when training for sports, more so than for a recreational bb'er imo.
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 16 2008 16:33:53
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Is someone able to build muscle sufficiently who is also into martial arts.
In short.... most definitely!
....and without 'assistance'
I did most of my major bulking/muscle building during the peak of my time training in martial arts.
The main thing is to allow suitable rest/recovery periods and to allow for it within your diet. It's just a case of finding the right balance for each part.
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 17 2008 15:38:12
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ORIGINAL: darkershade
Is someone able to build muscle sufficiently who is also into martial arts.
In short.... most definitely!
....and without 'assistance'
I did most of my major bulking/muscle building during the peak of my time training in martial arts.
The main thing is to allow suitable rest/recovery periods and to allow for it within your diet. It's just a case of finding the right balance for each part.
Can you tell where i can find some of the time frame in your journal mate?
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 17 2008 15:40:51
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I want to get into fighting and improve fitness but i also love improving my strength/physique with BB type training and eating.
Can both be achieved to a good standard?
Yes
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 17 2008 16:08:49
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Mind mentioning some guidlines as to how?
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 17 2008 16:11:45
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Short answer: Combine weight, conditioning and technical training with enough food to increase your weight.
http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/hardcore.html for brief guidelines.
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Over a period of approximately 4 months, I was able to gain 12 pounds. Although 12 pounds is certainly not a huge increase in size, it would be equivalent to moving up one or two weight classes as a fighter.
After gaining the mass, I do not notice any changes to my conditioning. I am still a “conditioning fanatic” and have been able to maintain the same level of intensity while training. In addition, I have not noticed any reductions in speed or power. Overall, I feel as fast and explosive as I was prior to gaining the weight.
My experiment has shown me that one can gain size without impairing other athletic qualities. In my opinion, the most important part of mass building takes place in the kitchen. I did not make many changes to my actual training plan. The biggest change to my daily schedule was related to food consumption. I simply ate larger meals with greater frequency. The intense nature of my conditioning workouts allowed me to eat more without gaining body fat.
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 17 2008 16:15:16
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I know this is now probably the most linked to place on all of MT, but still, since you asked for guidelines, this has some....
http://www.rosstraining.com/articles.html
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RE: Bodybuilding/strength/fighting/overtraining - Apr. 17 2008 16:16:00
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See ^^
lol
(That took me 4 minutes to find, obviously!)
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