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Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 19:16:40
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jack5r
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Here is 'Deadlift form check 1' - http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_2616069/tm.htm
Last week was 95kg for 5x5. This week 100kg for 5x5. I tried to use more of a leg push this week to make it less backy as this was the main concern you guys had last work. You can also see that on 90% of reps the bar is in full contact with my legs.
1st Set - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCRSz2uRdyc
5th Set - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9ahQXGU6lQ
I have only been deadlifting again for 4 weeks. First week was 80kg, then 90kg, 95kg and now 100kg. Before this I had only ever had 70kg on the bar so moving fast and want to keep form good. I will keep at 100kg for another week or so and post up every week and see what you guys have to say.
So get critisizing!
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 19:20:49
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Good progress so far. I'd avoid bouncing the reps myself.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 19:45:05
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I'm using York weights here which means I'm deadlifting from much lower than people with Olympic 20kg plates. Do you think I should make two stands to deadlift the barbell from? I'm only 5'6 though with short legs so maybe not a problem. When I go for a max I guess I will use a stand though to make it fare. How much do you think I could deadlift? 120kg?
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 19:59:01
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So get critisizing!
Your forms terrible have you not got anyone who can walk you through a session,until you can get it right i wouldn't up the weight any more.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 20:05:26
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His form aint perfect but it aint terrible. Keep working at it.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 20:08:53
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quote:
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So get critisizing!
Your forms terrible have you not got anyone who can walk you through a session,until you can get it right i wouldn't up the weight any more.
Why is it terrible? Give all the reasons please. Do you think the form in week 1 or 2 is better? Week 2, I was just attempting to do what everyone on here advised me on.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 20:14:10
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sink your hips more at the start, apart from that it wasn't too bad, back keeps nice and straight, what your doing is basically a stiff leg deadlift, well its acttually a romanian deadlift, but thats another story
sink your hips more to use more leg drive, then post up another vid, just make sure your hips dont come up too fast when you sink your hips more, good going mate
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If you want to keep your waist as small as possible, drop deadlifts and squads.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 20:16:24
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It dosn't help that your using standard gauge, but i wouldn't make a platform or anything just crack on trying to perfect form and get stronger. Keep at the hard work, but avoid thrashing the movement ie grining out sets all the time.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 21:09:49
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Thanks guys.
Sivvy, when you say sink my hips, do you just mean keep my bum lower to the floor? If not I don't really understand what sinking your hips is..
Isn't the point of a SLDL to hit the hams. I barly feel my hams doing anything when I DL. I tried more of a leg drive this week, which to a slightly shakey DL as you can see.
I'll post a vid every week for the next month or two to make sure the form is improving.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 21:20:29
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he keeps his back straight?
I think the comments about not getting low enough are spot on, because of this you're pulling the weight up mainly with the lower back. Think of it like a squat and really force your butt out and get low (not same foot stance ofc) then drive your heels into the floor, pulling back almost rather than up. (i dont mean pulling from the arms!)
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 21:23:51
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i think its def better than your 1st vids last week, your keeping the bar tight to your legs which is good, but as above keep your hips lower. form deffinatly getting better imo
remember your lifting from you hips (glutes and hams) not you lower back or quads, concentrate on lifting with the hips not your knees, quads, lower back etc. and pulling back not up .
the deadlift must be the most complicated exersise to explain lol.
i wish i new better befoe starting deads. bad form from deads is what injured my back, leaning to far forward which moved the bar away from me putting more pressure on my lower back, im slowly recovering tho, wish it would hurry up 
EDIT: jack, if you pause your video on your new lifts, just after you lift the weight of the floor you will see how high your hips are and the angle your torso is to the floor, you spine should be at more of an angle to the floor, more like this pic:
http://www.crossfit.com/journal/images/angles.jpg
lift and hold that angle dont go below by raising hips faster than shoulders causing you to go more horizontal move your hips towards the bar with glutes and hams. have your head/chest as high as possible
hope this helps abit more
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 15 2008 23:24:46
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he keeps his back straight?
I think the comments about not getting low enough are spot on, because of this you're pulling the weight up mainly with the lower back. Think of it like a squat and really force your butt out and get low (not same foot stance ofc) then drive your heels into the floor, pulling back almost rather than up. (i dont mean pulling from the arms!)
yes he does keep his back straight,
push your hips down to the floor before you lift, like your gonna sit on a chair, then you will be in a gorilla position, look at jonnywildboar's videos on youtube, or iaink, they are 2 of the better deadlifters on the board who both have really good form
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If you want to keep your waist as small as possible, drop deadlifts and squads.
Switch to using a smith machine for both.
The only reason for a statement like that is mental illness.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 16 2008 12:51:55
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it is poor form and soon you will break yourself if you add more weight. go down weight and work on perfect form then join we big boys!
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 16 2008 14:17:33
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 16 2008 16:52:34
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quote:
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it is poor form and soon you will break yourself if you add more weight. go down weight and work on perfect form then join we big boys!
no he wont
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If you want to keep your waist as small as possible, drop deadlifts and squads.
Switch to using a smith machine for both.
The only reason for a statement like that is mental illness.
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 16 2008 21:02:33
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quote:
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it is poor form and soon you will break yourself if you add more weight. go down weight and work on perfect form then join we big boys!
no he wont
AGREE -As weights increase you have to learn to perfect "your" form to avoid injury. I've found people's form evolves sometimes into their best style
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RE: Deadlift form check 2! - Apr. 16 2008 21:05:51
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When I go for a max I guess I will use a stand though to make it fare. How much do you think I could deadlift? 120kg?
I think from a standard height you could max 130-135kg for a single
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