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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 10:58:17
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3 style, a persons own body image when it is negative can make them feel down about themselves and that leads to psychological reasons to eat. If someone feels happy about their image then they are more likely to want to do something to keep that positive attitude. There have been studies done that have actually shown a positive attitude to your body image can help you lose weight without diet and/or exercise. I'm looking into this at the mo and if I can find the studies I'll quote them.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 10:59:04
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I have other clients who have psychological issues in that it's hard for them to adhere to nutrition and exericse programs for reason which frankly, are beyond anything you guys will ever percieve.
Any examples?
Hard to relay the full extent of someones state of mind through typing. Some people have binge eating disorder, or have had - they may control it, but lapse. Cue TIO...
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:05:11
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I also can't understand why I don't see herds of obese animals
Plenty of animals out there can be classed as being obese.
Hippo, Bears, others that eat large amounts of food to store fat up for the winter 
Yes but this is not deemed as unhealthy is it.........?
They are adapted for survival.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:11:21
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They are adapted for survival.
And humans arent?
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:13:12
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I don't think that blind confidence is something to be inspired.
You should be confident, because you know something that inspires you with confidence, that is TRUE.
If you don't look good naked....for whatever reason....believing you do is just silly.
If a person can't face reality, what hope have they for life in general?
Being out of shape = you don't look as good as someone who's in shape, when naked.
I think there's far too much talk about how society has placed unacceptable body images on women - when i think in general, the reverse is true. So much of society DOESN'T expect women to be in shape now, that it actively discourages women from doing anything about:
- eating badly
- not working out
If you DONT work out....you're hurting your body, and you're being unnatural, and it is unhealthy. That, as far as I can see it, is fact. Why? Because human's would have naturally exercised for hours a day in the wild. To sit on your arse all day is bad. If you look bad from it, that's an expectable consequence.
sums it up nicely. I agree 100%
I think lifestyles now are so confortable compared to what they were in the past. 99% of overweight people have only themselves to blame due to their lifestyle habits.
I disagree 100%
On MT we have a skewed perception - we all workout, and we all find it relatively easy to do so. For others it really is not for a multitude of reasons - sure some are lazy - some genuinely are not. For instance I had a lady in clinic just this morning - she follows my plans almost to the T, she plays netball twice a week, she swims once a week, and she does long 2-3 hour bike rides with her partner. Yet she struggles to lose weight.
I have other clients who have psychological issues in that it's hard for them to adhere to nutrition and exericse programs for reason which frankly, are beyond anything you guys will ever percieve.
I have opened MT up to people who are not interested in weight training now, and just want to discuss weight loss stratergies. I'll be damned if I'm going to let narrow mindedness on MT put them off from joining.
Guys, if someone starts offering crap training advice because basically, they are unqualified or inexperienced to do so, you all would agree 'don't post, coz you don't know what you're talking about'. The same applies here - you really do not know what you're talking about!
I disagree 100% aswell... i cant speak for being over weight but its just the same when some one is very under weight and cant help it !!
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:14:22
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There is nothing wrong with an obese person wanting to look a little better.
There is nothing wrong with an obese person not wanting to look a little better.
Being fat isn't a fcking crime.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:15:22
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There is nothing wrong with an obese person wanting to look a little better.
There is nothing wrong with an obese person not wanting to look a little better.
Being fat isn't a fcking crime.
It seems to be the case in the perfect world that is www.muscletalk.co.uk
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:17:25
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There is nothing wrong with an obese person not wanting to look a little better.
Being fat isn't a fcking crime.
Cue discussion on how fat people eat my nhs tax money.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:18:16
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There is nothing wrong with an obese person wanting to look a little better.
There is nothing wrong with an obese person not wanting to look a little better.
Being fat isn't a fcking crime.
It seems to be the case in the perfect world that is www.muscletalk.co.uk
What seems to be the case?
The hatred of people who happen to be overweight - especially women - is astonishing. Some of the posters on this thread seem to have some very deep-seated insecurities about women and express an open contempt for women that is just disgusting.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:19:58
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What seems to be the case?
It is usually open season on fat people on this website.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:20:28
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There is nothing wrong with an obese person not wanting to look a little better.
Being fat isn't a fcking crime.
Cue discussion on how fat people eat my nhs tax money.
Cue discussion on how people who smoke, drink, don't pay attention at the wheel, go skiing, don't wear sunscreen, don't wear condoms, carry knives, don't wear a bike helmet, don't follow the green-cross-code, don't cook their chicken properly, etc. etc. etc. eat your NHS tax money.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:21:42
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3 style, a persons own body image when it is negative can make them feel down about themselves and that leads to psychological reasons to eat. If someone feels happy about their image then they are more likely to want to do something to keep that positive attitude. There have been studies done that have actually shown a positive attitude to your body image can help you lose weight without diet and/or exercise. I'm looking into this at the mo and if I can find the studies I'll quote them.
This I can see the logic - Good point Kitty, I imagine that is a terrible predicament.
To be a little unproffessional, I will quote Mike Myers Fat Bastard character from Austin powers "I eat because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I eat. ..."
You have made me think about times when personally, I have seen progress in my physique. Im talking about timke we are all familiar with, time when looking face to face in the mirror and thnking "By god its working" I have then been more motivated than ever to continue with whatever plan has attributed to my success and ensure it is followed through.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:22:14
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I also can't understand why I don't see herds of obese animals
Plenty of animals out there can be classed as being obese.
Hippo, Bears, others that eat large amounts of food to store fat up for the winter
Yes but this is not deemed as unhealthy is it.........?
They are adapted for survival.
But still my point stands that those animals according to society would be deemed obese. Whats to say that humans who shares the same traits arent?
I doubt bodybuilders are built for survival somehow
No mate you are missing my point. An obese human is unhealthy right...? Do humans need to be obese to survive?
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:30:10
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I read the first page of this and there are some disturbing posts, why the slating of people that aren't in as good a shape as yourselves? I really hope you people don't act like that to other people in real life - And if i said anything remotely like some of these posts, even if it is to the TV, I would probably get a good shouting/slap , at least! Its totally disrespectful. I'm quite stuck for words at reading some of the posts tbh.. i thought MT was all about helping anyone, not just the big muscle genetic freaks.. maybe my vision was slightly skewered, i dont know.. but i would not be friends with anyone that started to refer to overweight people with some of the comments in here. I don't mean to rant but honestly, its really hard not too atm.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:31:03
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No mate you are missing my point. An obese human is unhealthy right...? Do humans need to be obese to survive?
I'm fairly sure the ability to lay down a load of fat reserves must have helped during our evolution.
I believe carrying some fat doesn't really impact your health greatly.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:34:01
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I read the first page of this and there are some disturbing posts, why the slating of people that aren't in as good a shape as yourselves? I really hope you people don't act like that to other people in real life - And if i said anything remotely like some of these posts, even if it is to the TV, I would probably get a good shouting/slap , at least! Its totally disrespectful. I'm quite stuck for words at reading some of the posts tbh.. i thought MT was all about helping anyone, not just the big muscle genetic freaks.. maybe my vision was slightly skewered, i dont know.. but i would not be friends with anyone that started to refer to overweight people with some of the comments in here. I don't mean to rant but honestly, its really hard not too atm.
What's more there are a number of people who contribute to this forum who dedicate their lives to inspiring, motivating and guiding individuals who wish to make changes to their lifestyle and their body.
Casual references to 'fat bastards' undoes all their hard work.
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:35:03
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No mate you are missing my point. An obese human is unhealthy right...? Do humans need to be obese to survive?
I'm fairly sure the ability to lay down a load of fat reserves must have helped during our evolution.
I believe carrying some fat doesn't really impact your health greatly.
Great, so do I...
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RE: How to look good naked - Apr. 16 2008 11:47:40
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Don't forget the impact that society says how we think we should look and how we expect others to look, those who are blinkered by this are pretty small minded. I like to think that those of us on here as bodybuilders are having our own little protest against this and not wanting to look as the 'norm'. Think back to the years when a voluptuous woman was adored and painted by many artists as being the ultimate, in todays society many of you would now call her obese .
Rather than post negative comments about those who may have weight issues get up and try to do something about it to help them.
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