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Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 16 2008 22:45:59
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Eric Marks
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For someone who is bulking, if they watch and make sure they are gaining .5 pound to 1 pound a week and they are eating enough protein and EFAs, then what would be the downside to having a big mac or ice cream or candy, every single day?
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 16 2008 23:00:38
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good article, i have a question though,
in your article you wrote like you can still have pizza just its better if you make your own with fat free cheese, wheat bread etc, but why use fat free cheese and make these changes? Wouldn't it be exactly the same to eat the regular pizza at dominos or pizza hut and then just lower fat intake of peanut butter or so later? Why use reduced fat cheese and then eat more fat later?
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 16 2008 23:39:07
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This something I just don't get though...
My mate, has been training for two years only. He's 6 ft 3 and just hit 17 stone and is lean as hell. He benches 160, has rediculous arms yet he eats pure **** all day everyday! He has a HUGE burgerstar most days, greasy fryup in the morning from a Café before work and then some crap when he gets home. He doesn't know what 'bulking' means, he doesn't know what 'cutting' means...he has one protein shake a day and has no concept of diet whatsoever. Everything on here would go straight over his head.
Why in the hell has he become such a monster so quickly?! He's just 23, and was pretty average built before.
He has taken one cycle of gear ,and no, he didn't even really know what 'cycle' meant when I mentioned it to him; he just follows his mates instructions with the gear as he's quite in the know.
I'm confused.
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 16 2008 23:58:59
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Good genetics? Bastard*
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 0:02:29
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This something I just don't get though...
My mate, has been training for two years only. He's 6 ft 3 and just hit 17 stone and is lean as hell. He benches 160, has rediculous arms yet he eats pure **** all day everyday! He has a HUGE burgerstar most days, greasy fryup in the morning from a Café before work and then some crap when he gets home. He doesn't know what 'bulking' means, he doesn't know what 'cutting' means...he has one protein shake a day and has no concept of diet whatsoever. Everything on here would go straight over his head.
Why in the hell has he become such a monster so quickly?! He's just 23, and was pretty average built before.
He has taken one cycle of gear ,and no, he didn't even really know what 'cycle' meant when I mentioned it to him; he just follows his mates instructions with the gear as he's quite in the know.
I'm confused.
some people have good genetics .. eg: any top bb
dont b jealous mate, we`r all different from each other, just take your time and you`ll hit ur targets somewhen, just keep trying and adjusting ur train/diet/sleep accordingly
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 0:14:56
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my take on this is-
if youve been training a bit and know what youre body responds to...you can do what you want and just adjust where and if necessary.if you are concerned about your health,then tio is bang on,theres no way of shovelling those down youre throat everyday and not having some ill effects.similarly assistance will make the best out of that addition to your diet.
genetics and activity is the big factors here.i used to eat poor carb choices(white bread,regular pasta,white rice etc etc..)and worked on a building site,and gained well and stayed lean.ive known similar lads whove eaten bacon,burgers,cheese etc by the bucketload and just grown like fck.
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 7:59:34
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Eric Marks
For someone who is bulking, if they watch and make sure they are gaining .5 pound to 1 pound a week and they are eating enough protein and EFAs, then what would be the downside to having a big mac or ice cream or candy, every single day?
well according to the timings thread started by Integra this shouldn't be a problem....not healthy though obviously!
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 8:21:38
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Sorry about the language ill refrain my self next time ..
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 8:42:42
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Well is eating something like a big mac and then lowering peanut butter fat later, different than eating a clean hamburger of lean beef and then eating a peanut butter later
how is one different than the other
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 9:24:18
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It really isn't that different, if you can eat it a big mac and restrain yourself on other cals then you will bulk just the same as without it. It's just the health side of things, it will be offal or the worst kind, processed and fat added to hold all the meat together. Just try it, if you gain too much fat you will just have to burn it off with a cut. After doing a few too many cuts you soon realise that a clean bulk is the way to go.
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 10:30:03
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mc donalds burger is 100% beef, no matter what you read. it doesnt have offal, or intestines, or goats brains in it.
its just beef.
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 11:27:40
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A Big Mac contain a lot of stuff, while the beef patty is just meat, salt and black pepper, the rest of it is packed full of stuff.
Beef Patty:
100% pure USDA inspected beef; no additives, no fillers, no extenders. Prepared with grill seasoning (salt, black pepper)
Big Mac® Bun:
Enriched flour (bleached wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, soybean oil, canola oil, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, contains 2% or less of each of the following: sesame seed, salt, wheat gluten, calcium sulfate, ammonium sulfate, monocalcium phosphate, ammonium chloride, calcium carbonate, baking soda, soy flour, dough conditioners (may contain one or more of the following: distilled monoglycerides, DATEM, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, enzymes, ethoxylated mono- and diglycerides, sodium stearoyl lactylate, guar gum, mono-and diglycerides, calcium peroxide), calcium propionate & sodium propionate (preservatives), soy lecithin. CONTAINS: WHEAT AND SOY
Big Mac® Sauce:
Soybean oil, pickle relish [diced pickles, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, vinegar, corn syrup, salt, calcium chloride, xanthan gum, potassium sorbate (preservative), spice extractives, polysorbate 80], distilled vinegar, water, egg yolks, high fructose corn syrup, onion powder, mustard seed, salt, spices, propylene glycol alginate, sodium benzoate (preservative), mustard bran, sugar, garlic powder, vegetable protein (hydrolyzed corn, soy and wheat), caramel color, extractives of paprika, soy lecithin, turmeric (color), calcium disodium EDTA (protect flavor). CONTAINS: WHEAT, EGG AND SOY
Copied and pasted from McDonald's USA Ingredients Listing for Popular Menu Items
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 12:56:18
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It's interesting that ingredients lists on US foods are usually a long list of chemicals.
Thats what put me off, it looks like a list I'd give to a lab technician
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 13:11:39
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Whenever I eat a Mcdonalds I allways have a dodgy stomach about 2 hours later.
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 13:38:31
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Because hes ran a cycle, which gave him good muscle growth.
he may lean as hell because he doesnt know what a calorie is and could effectively be cutting without realisaing it(not eating enough to maintain his weight), so his body burn fat instead.
He also probably hits his protein levels and well, EFA's arnt really linked to being a huge muscle man are they? Perhaps a healthy one.
In short, cycle + calories + hard training = He got big.
If your natural and comparing yourself, then of course your going to feel crap in comparison.
I know of 4 people who ran cycles, eat everything they wanted and grew big. They also trained very hard and still dont know what a cycle or calories are, just goes to show the basics work.
Eat big, train hard, and rest is pretty easy to get anyway.
Saying that, 2 are now off gear and look like absolute ****(They dropped their training, but kept up the eating big).
As for genetics, meh no ones tested anyones genetics they just seem to throw out this "His got good genes" whenever they see someone whop someone else. They may be training like a big girl, which is probably alot more likly.
Focus on what you can control, bitching about "luck" "genes" or whatever else doesnt get anyone anywhere.
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RE: Big Mac Every Day - Apr. 17 2008 16:10:20
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but back to my original question- why does everyone here have peanut butter, nuts, etc, in their diet. I need to eat 100g of fat each day about, as long as I get EFAs for some of these, why would the rest of the fat have to come from penut butter and 'clean sources'? Wouldn't it be exactly the same if instead of the 15g of fat I get from peanut Butter (the rest of my fats comes from EFAs) but I swap the peanut butter for ice cream? OR If I eat a big mac everyday which may have 30g of fats, and then just reduce my fat intake by 30g. I can't see how this would change anything. Also, what about a big mac would be bad for your health?
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