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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 16:47:38
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Integra
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Thought of another, I could do a set of 25 close grip chins without too much struggle, so you would assume my biceps are strong.
Not really, CGC's are not a bicep isolation.
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 16:56:42
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A lot of possibles there but does not really change anything.
A sub one and a half times bodyweight bench press should be pretty easy for a serious trainer at 117kg.
So assuming the vast majority of trainers on this site would be close to the 100kg mark, why are there so few people who can bench 150kg? (regardless of ease)
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 16:58:23
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A lot of possibles there but does not really change anything.
A sub one and a half times bodyweight bench press should be pretty easy for a serious trainer at 117kg.
So assuming the vast majority of trainers on this site would be close to the 100kg mark, why are there so few people who can bench 150kg? (regardless of ease)
They arent.
By 'serious trainer' I do not mean recreational bulkers.
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:15:33
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At 18 stone 160kg should be easy for a serious trainer.
No it isn't. 160 kg is just over 350 lbs, that is heavy and it is never easy.
Many talk the talk, few walk the walk
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:16:51
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At 18 stone 160kg should be easy for a serious trainer.
No it isn't. 160 kg is just over 350 lbs, that is heavy and it is never easy.
Many talk the talk, few walk the walk
Yes it is.
If a serious trainer - by my definition - weighing 18 stone could not bench press 160kg I would be very surprised.
I have never met a serious trainer weighing 18 stone who could not bench press at least 160kg. And I have met hundreds.
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:18:43
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Yes it is.
Can you do it ?
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:19:39
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Yes it is.
Can you do it ?
I am not 18 stone. If I was then most definitely yes I could.
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:21:29
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I am not 18 stone. If I was then most definitely yes I could.
How very convenient
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:24:12
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I am not 18 stone. If I was then most definitely yes I could.
How very convenient
Convenient or not it does not change the statement that a serious trainer at 18 stone should be able to bench press 160kg.
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:27:00
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how often have you seen it done?
what is a serious trainer ?
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 17:33:26
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how often have you seen it done?
what is a serious trainer ?
If this is directed at me - hundreds of times.
A serious trainer for me is someone who has spent a great deal of time and effort in the gym and has the body to match, rather than recreational bulkers who do not.
My opinion that a serious trainer weighing 18 stone should be able to bench press 160kg is a valid one based on my experience.
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 18:46:50
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Was a Polish lad I was training with at the gym tonight.
I was well motivated by him and I set a new pb of 170k.
He did 180k and was only a shade off 190k to be fair.
Really satisfying stuff.
Could be wrong but don't recall seeing anyone bench that raw before.
Usually at my gym, nobody even benches 140k!
Quite a few doing between 500 and 600lb here.
Polish lad does just shy of 400 for seated press behind the neck, too. 
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 18:48:22
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No it isn't. 160 kg is just over 350 lbs, that is heavy and it is never easy.
Many talk the talk, few walk the walk
That's what I was thinking lol
Integra; I'm a little over 19 stone and can't press that without a shirt. I've also competed 4, soon to be 5 times. Am I not serious, or am I just pathetic?
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 18:55:08
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im sorry but Integra you are wrong!
160kg is a **** load of weight imo!
Also how many serious trainers are 18stone? Thats also a lot of weight To be fair!
Also i take offence at the term 'Recreational Bulker'
I train hard and have been on a continuous bulk for around a year although it is time to cut soon
160kg is 25stone you say that should be 'easy' for a man 18 stone
thats almost 1 and a half times his body weight! i dont think that would be easy!
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 19:15:25
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I am not 18 stone. If I was then most definitely yes I could.
What an arsehole
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 19:29:23
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Ooops - didnt mean to start a barny 
I may try the 160-170k bench soon for 1RM but TBH I rarely do them as they provide little beyond ego boosts tbh. I dont know what is good or bad for a bench, all I know is I enjoying do it. Iron has taught me that good things come to he who is consistant and trains to be the best I can. As for what others do, I dunno, end of the day what someone else lifts doesnt mean squat to me - there is no gain in their strength or lack there of 
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 19:31:06
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Ooops - didnt mean to start a barny
I may try the 160-170k bench soon for 1RM but TBH I rarely do them as they provide little beyond ego boosts tbh. I dont know what is good or bad for a bench, all I know is I enjoying do it. Iron has taught me that good things come to he who is consistant and trains to be the best I can. As for what others do, I dunno, end of the day what someone else lifts doesnt mean squat to me - there is no gain in their strength or lack there of
muscle makes you weight!! (pardon the pun)
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 19:39:39
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160kg. But I'll be able to do that by the end of the year so not that impressive really.
(I hope!)
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 19:42:20
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I do agree with Integra in one respect, 160kg raw bench isnt impressive unless at abodyweight of under 100kg.(or 100% drug free) I dont mean to offend anyone, and I am by no means backing Integra.
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RE: Biggest Raw bench you've seen - Apr. 17 2008 19:50:19
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I do not know were some people train but I have not seen 100s of people do 160Kg at any weight
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