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How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 13:15:43
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Osirus
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Hi all,
Just a quick question. I am currently naturally bulking and following Frankies mass building routine and was wondering how long you are recommend to bulk for? I really want to put on as much mass as i can and dont really want to cut, but wasnt sure if the body needs a rest from the constant amount of food i am eating, and whether a cut would do me good. I have never done a cut before and dont really want to, just wanna keep packing on the mass.
Hope that makes sense
Any help/advice would be much appreciated
Thanks
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 13:19:01
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I think if your diet is clean and your keeping fat gains to a minimum then you've nothing to worry about long term.
I would only worry about the amount I was eating if I was becoming too fat which would obviously be detrimental to your health
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 13:24:31
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Osirus
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Hi wallace,
Thanks for the reply,
So if i am gaining lean mass and not allot of fat, then just keep bulking untill i feel ready to cut?
Currently 210lb i think around 185 lean mass and something around 20% body fat,
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 14:25:47
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kk cheers for the advice,
Another question, i have found over the last month or so when i am bulking i tend to feel really tired around mid afternoon time. Is this due to the amount i am eating?
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 15:14:51
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Is it only since you've started bulking??
I sit at a desk all day and I start to get a bit tired around mid afternoon but that always happens.
Can't see why bulking would specifically make you tired at a certain time of day.
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 16:22:38
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Currently 210lb i think around 185 lean mass and something around 20% body fat, If you're up to 20% BF, now would be a good time to start cutting until you're down to ~10% BF.
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 16:51:14
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if you are happy than by all means continue
for health reasons alone i wouldn't 'bulk'
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 17:35:36
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Thanks for the replies guys,
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for health reasons alone i wouldn't 'bulk'
What do u mean by this, sorry i am a bit confused?
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 17:39:51
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Hey Nige,
I really dont wanna cut unless i seriously have to, i have made some mass gains in the last few years and am worried if i do a cut then i will loose alot of overall mass which has taken me a long time to put on. I do consider my self a hard gainer and the idea of doing a cut sccccaarreeess me!! lolol
Help!!!! :)
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 17:49:40
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Hey Nige,
I really dont wanna cut unless i seriously have to, i have made some mass gains in the last few years and am worried if i do a cut then i will loose alot of overall mass which has taken me a long time to put on. I do consider my self a hard gainer and the idea of doing a cut sccccaarreeess me!! lolol
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A Hardgainer?! Come off it mate. if you were a hardgainer you wouldn't be at 20% BF, you gain as easily as any other you just dont seem to realise it takes time
Carry on bulking and become really fat, then waste months upon months of muscle building time cutting down again to even notice what physique lays underneath your added insulation
You aint gonna lose muscle at 20% bf unless you really screw something up
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 17:57:25
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20 per cent (I'm guessing probably higher) and overeating is not something i would recommend
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Hey Nige,
I really dont wanna cut unless i seriously have to, i have made some mass gains in the last few years and am worried if i do a cut then i will loose alot of overall mass which has taken me a long time to put on. I do consider my self a hard gainer and the idea of doing a cut sccccaarreeess me!! lolol
you won't lose mass on a cut
if you insist on bulking, do so at a lower rate
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 19:18:32
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Osirus
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Iopener,
Sorry if i seemed to affend u buy saying i was a hardgainer but tbh i do realise that it takes alot of time and trail and error to achieve something in this sport and was only asking for advice from people that may have more experience and have been in my position!
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 19:21:39
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Osirus
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R3261,
Thanks for the reply,
I think i may have another look at my diet and see where i need to adjust it then. I also think by the sounds of things i may be better off doing a cut and then working up from there.
Thanks for the advice
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 19:30:18
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This is how my current diet is looking,
8:00 am - Meal 1 - 4 wheatabix, whey protein shake in semi-skimmed milk, 2 slice of granary bread, 2 whole eggs, , 1 multivitamin tab, 2 fish oil caps and 2 flaxseed caps
11:00 - Meal 2 - 100g rice/Jacket potato , 150g chicken/ steak / Mackerel or can of tuna, veg, e.g. broccoli or mixed salad
14:00 - Meal 3 - (SAME AS MEAL 2)
15.30 - 1 scoop of creatine in water
16:00 - Train
17.15 - Whey protein shake + 50g dextrose + 1 banana
18:00 - Meal 4 - (SAME AS MEAL 2, 3, 4)
21:00 - 4 wheatabix with whey protein shake
22.30 - Tub of cottage cheese with riveta
Would u say this is a lean bulk?
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 19:36:27
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no need to apoligise mate. TIOs comment was a little harsh. all things considered
the above is the definition of a clean bulk
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8:00 am - Meal 1 - 4 wheatabix, whey protein shake in semi-skimmed milk, 2 slice of granary bread, 2 whole eggs, , 1 multivitamin tab, 2 fish oil caps and 2 flaxseed caps
11:00 - Meal 2 - 100g rice/Jacket potato , 150g chicken/ steak / Mackerel or can of tuna, veg, e.g. broccoli or mixed salad
14:00 - Meal 3 - (SAME AS MEAL 2)
15.30 - 1 scoop of creatine in water
16:00 - Train
17.15 - Whey protein shake + 50g dextrose + 1 banana
18:00 - Meal 4 - (SAME AS MEAL 2, 3, 4)
21:00 - 4 wheatabix with whey protein shake
22.30 - Tub of cottage cheese with riveta
Would u say this is a lean bulk?
it's a clean bulk
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RE: How long to Bulk????? Hep/Advice - Apr. 18 2008 19:41:15
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Thanks R3,
Ok so would a non clean bulk have more junk food in then, i.e eating junk food for more calories?
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