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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:02:33
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R3261
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In all honesty, I don't think I would have stuck up for the girl in front in the first place. I'm not sure, but I doubt I would have, unless the youths were physically assaulting her. I would have felt sorry for her, but probably not sorry enough to endanger my GF
Therefore, this story would have ended before it began in my case
i wasn't sticking up for the girl
there were acting like sh1ts and making the journey more than uncomfortable. it was only a matter of time before i said something tbh
by going up and having a few words with them, i do not think i was putting anybody in danger
yes it would've been great if everybody got together and said something. but it doesn't work like that in this country anymore
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:04:08
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"sticks and stone may break my bones but calling cannot hurt you" at the end of the day they are only words,
i see where your coming from,but words can upset the person you are with,even if you ignor them yourself,they are still insulting to that person.
what you are left with is,what would your wife think of you if you hadnt intervened? or daughter etc etc etc (hyperthetical of corse)
why should we have to be insulted at all let alone for doing nothing.imo as i stated earlier if adults got a bit of backbone and started to intervene,these situations wouldnt occour,this would be better for all concerned.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:11:20
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by going up and having a few words with them, i do not think i was putting anybody in danger
Personally, I see that part differently mate. Not saying I am right or you are wrong, just that my viewpoint on this is different
If I "have words" with someone I have every expectation that they might resort to violence. It seems to be a common thing these days that an argument between people descends quickly to violence (and I'm sure the same was true in the past too)
Like I say, I'm not sure if I would ever have confronted them in the first place, if their attention was focussed elsewhere. I am very protective of my GF (as I'm sure all here are) and I would have been angry but not angry enough to put her in danger
However if they insulted my GF in a nasty way then I'm afraid the red mist might have descended, and what I described in my first post would have occurred
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:15:42
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Dunno what I'd do. It depends on loads of stuff. I've been in similar situations and done nothing except sit there and fume... and on a couple of other times I've lashed out.
So which did you decide on?
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:23:40
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been in a similar situation, wont say what happened but it wasnt the best result.
knowing what i know now i'd probably have left it in the first place, bus journey's rarely last more than 20 mins, i can hold out for that long.
although all that aside, if i was with my partner that i loved i wouldnt hold back. some things imo you just have to stick up for and use whatever force necessary, thats just how i am though. always been sh1t at being the bigger man.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:25:23
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i just want to hear that you beat the sit out of them.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:26:15
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in real life i would have got off the bus at the next stop with that lot on the bus, if my gf was with me and they started on that girl id have just left to protect my gf. So basically id have avoided the situation altogether.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:27:06
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Very tough one indeed. Since i was accepted into the police, and have been waiting for entry, ive really had to be mindful of my behaviour. Anything minor, could screw up the whole thing, and so far its taken two years to get this far, so it would be devastating. I know plenty of guys, who have landed in big trouble with the police after sticking up for somebody who was being abused.
If she was being physically abused, i couldnt sit there and watch it happen. I would have to do something, its just my nature. My fiance would understand this, of this im quite sure. However the bullying behaviour and them just being loud and abrasive, i likely would have let it slide. Its hardly worth the trouble as its only a bus journey.
As for the racial abuse, if they were just silly children, i wouldnt have bothered reacting. They are likely too naive and stupid to realise that being this way can land them into more trouble than they realise.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:34:25
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I hate these situations.
I like to think i wouldn't have done anything if it was just words and noise and nobody was in any obvious danger, but then again i am relaxed and sitting in front of a keyboard right now. I certainly wouldn't try and beat the rest up as all they did (as pathetic as it was) was laugh at what their friends were doing.
However if a loved one/family member was involved i would have said/done something without thinking a great deal first. If my brother was involved i wouldn't even come close to thinking.
If chips were thrown at me i would have pretended to be furious and then have eaten them when everyone had got off the bus.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:37:58
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they wouldnt say **** all to me lol i would have stopped them at the first opportunity! plus when sumone insults your mrs/familly its game on imo
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 19:57:41
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The suspension here is killing me.What happened?
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:14:34
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for the people who would get physical...
this is a gang of people you ar going to deal with, if you are going to do something you will get beaten up
it's pretty unlikely the gang would stop if you just punch and kicked at them so to stop yourself getting beaten up you would have to go pretty far and do sicker stuff to scare the others enough to make it stop, this sicker stuff isn't accepted by society so you would be going to serve time for it.
when all said and done, is it worth it?
just a question... not saying one way is right and one is wrong
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:26:16
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I'd say like Drab I wouldn't have got involved in the first place, but if they insulted my girlfriend I might have gone apeshit. Logically it wouldn't be a good idea, and I'm not as big or hard as Drab, so I would probably get whupped if there was 3 or 4 of them. But I do have trouble controlling my temper sometimes, and it has almost got me into trouble before over something less offensive, so...
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:26:21
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Personally I`d still do what needed to be done John, just my way, in the past it would eat me up for weeks even months, maybe it`s a problem I have that I can`t deal with that part of it I don`t know.
Not too long ago me, our lass and my youngest confronted a load of sh1tbags in the local park, what for ? for throwing a cricket ball at the squirrels trying to kill them, just can`t abide any bullying.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:30:07
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for the people who would get physical...
this is a gang of people you ar going to deal with, if you are going to do something you will get beaten up
it's pretty unlikely the gang would stop if you just punch and kicked at them so to stop yourself getting beaten up you would have to go pretty far and do sicker stuff to scare the others enough to make it stop, this sicker stuff isn't accepted by society so you would be going to serve time for it.
when all said and done, is it worth it?
just a question... not saying one way is right and one is wrong
yeah, you're damned either way really ( I think a lot of people are scared of the way the justice system works nowadays too, in that it seems to protect the scumbags and penalise the 'good' people who fight back)
what I've realised is in life you can't avoid scummy people no matter what your situation, even if you're a multi-millionaire living in a country mansion with servants you still need to have some interaction with the world around you and the people in it and leave your property to live life, shame
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:41:22
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Not sure about this to be honest
There is a huge irony here with some of the more "heroic" answers - So there are a group of these guys , You aren't going to stand for them shouting verbal abuse at your wife , and your plan is to leave her on her own while going to fight one of TWO seperate groups of them at either end of the bus , 
I'd be more inclined to be looking after my wife !
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:42:02
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for the people who would get physical...
this is a gang of people you ar going to deal with, if you are going to do something you will get beaten up
it's pretty unlikely the gang would stop if you just punch and kicked at them so to stop yourself getting beaten up you would have to go pretty far and do sicker stuff to scare the others enough to make it stop, this sicker stuff isn't accepted by society so you would be going to serve time for it.
when all said and done, is it worth it?
just a question... not saying one way is right and one is wrong
yeah, you're damned either way really ( I think a lot of people are scared of the way the justice system works nowadays too, in that it seems to protect the scumbags and penalise the 'good' people who fight back)
what I've realised is in life you can't avoid scummy people no matter what your situation, even if you're a multi-millionaire living in a country mansion with servants you still need to have some interaction with the world around you and the people in it and leave your property to live life, shame
Is this the real tuc?
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:49:30
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I experience at situation quite a number of years ago where i took my son and step-son over to my nearest big town on the bus, and there were 6 lads in their late teans messing about and throwing things around the bus, swearing loudly and everyone was getting annoyed about them. people just put up with it.
On the journey home the same bunch of lads came aboard, and were about the same and they started throwing chips around the bus. the journey was about 45 minutes by the way. One or two made comments to them which were ignored. I bit my lip and kept quiet.
However, when we got off the bus the lads got off too. Thery started walking past us, generally being abusive to people as they passed, one of them used his mates shoulder and mine to lever himself up and kind of swing himeself through!
That was it! I saw red and thought nothing of the possible outcome and lunged towards this lad and grabbed him by the throat and pinned him to a bench in the High Street and threatened him with all sorts. But I did stopshort of actually hitting him.
I don't know what I would have done in your situation!
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:56:07
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In reality I would have sat there hoping they would bugger off whilst thinking to myself "I wish I had the courage to confront these mindless idiots".
I'm not a violent person. I'm never been in a real fight and a huge concern is a situation like you mention R will occur and escalate and I'll basically be f**ked.
I'd love to not fear approaching them, but in reality, the only solution for would be to leave the scene and spend a lot of time afterwards brooding and wondering if the girl on the bus got home safely.
R - I hope the outcome wasn't too bad on your behalf.
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RE: what would you have done ? - Apr. 20 2008 20:58:37
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