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why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 12:59:58
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kingoblack
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hi guys
i ama getting more and more woried about my steady w=eight lose even though i am trying to bulk:S
my current diet is:
Protein Pancakes:
200g Cottage Cheese, 100g oat powder, 100ml skimmed milk and 2 tbsp sweetener blended up and made into protein pancakes
Cost: 23p Cottage Cheese, oats 5p, Milk 6p. Total 34p
(Oat powder is just economy oats ground up in a blender)
557 kcal; 71g carbs; 43g pro; 11g fat; 9g fibre
- Turkey Bolognese:
70g wholemeal pasta, 200g passata, 150g turkey mince, 1 onion, 2 mushrooms
Cost: 40p turkey mince, 11p passata, pasta 6p, two mushrooms 12p, onion 8p. Total 77p
542 kcal; 69g carbs; 43g pro; 10g fat; 10g fibre
- iOpener's Bulking Shake:
200g cottage cheese, 80g oat powder, 15g ASDA crunchy peanut butter, 10g cocoa powder with sweetener. Put all in blender with water and mix well.
Cost: cottage cheese 23p, oats 5p, peanut butter 2p, cocoa powder with sweetener 3p. Total 33p
580 kcal; 58g carbs; 43g pro; 19g fat; 10g fibre
- Pre Workout:
100g mince turkey, 1 whole egg, 100g oats, 250g green beans. Make into burgers and grill.
Cost: green beans 20p, oats 5p, turkey 30p, eggs 6p. Total 61p
558 kcal; 17g fat; 61g carbs; 36g pro; 8.5g fibre
- PWO (post workout)
40g whey in water, 50g oat powder, 1 banana
Cost: whey 32p, oat powder 3p, banana 15p. Total 50p
30g pro; 60g carbs; 4g fat 360
- PPWO (post post workout) Pilchards Bolognese
200g pilchards in tomato sauce, 100g pasta, 3 mushrooms, 1 onion
Cost: pilchards 25p, pasta 6p, onion 8p, mushrooms 10p. Total 49p
551 kcal; 11g fat; 67g carbs; 46g pro; 9g fibre;
- Pre bed
200g cottage cheese, 15g peanut butter, 10g cocoa with sweetener
Cost: peanut butter 2p, cottage cheese 23p, cocoa powder with sweetener 3p. Total 28p
292 Kcal; 13g fat; 10g carbs; 35g pro; 3g fibre
and my training is FRANKY NY MASS BUILING PROGRAM 2: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_27107/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#27107
i alos do 2-3 hrad MMA sesions a week
please help?
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 13:02:31
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richsINS
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Is this current plan hard to eat, or could you eat more?
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 13:06:24
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kingoblack
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hi richins,
i find this amount easy to eat and i could def eat more
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 13:10:29
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richsINS
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Sorry should of asked, how much weight are you losing per week?
Easy to solve, either increase each meals portions or duplicate a meal and add it into the diet. Depends how much weight your losing first though, maybe we need to increase intake by 10 or 30%....
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 13:12:34
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when i weighed myself on friday 17 i weighed 9st 7lbs and when i weighed myself today i weighed 9st 5lbs
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 13:43:48
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~2lb/week loss.
Thats 1000kcal a day that we need to eat eatra just to maintain. I'd probably add to my pre and post workout meals first this week, if next week youve not gained further increase in other meals too.
Fueling workouts is a priority, so is fueling recovery after hence why i chose these 2 meals.
Of course the scales could be off, so id bump up the calories by 500 a day first and see.
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 13:52:15
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chhers theiopener and richins
so should ihave something cottage and oatackes or 4 slices of wholemeal bread and something or something else?
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 15:58:16
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Personaly ( Im no Expert ) But for Pre work out meal replace the 100G of Turkey with 100-200g of Chicken , I Prefer chicken much more for some reason. Not a fan of Turkey.
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 16:15:14
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quote:
ORIGINAL: FrankenJim
Personaly ( Im no Expert ) But for Pre work out meal replace the 100G of Turkey with 100-200g of Chicken , I Prefer chicken much more for some reason. Not a fan of Turkey.
well thats more to do with personal choice rather than effectiveness innit
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 23 2008 17:15:44
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How long have you been losing weight for?
Have you changed any part of your diet or training recently that could be the cause?
If you haven't changed anything and you have started losing weight suddenly with no apparent cause it would be worth going to a local chemist for a diabetes test. Its free and can be done at most chemists with no appointment.
I don't wanna scaremonger, but that is a symptom.
If you do choose to do this, let us know how it goes.
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 6:21:21
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kingoblack
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quote:
ORIGINAL: FrankenJim
Personaly ( Im no Expert ) But for Pre work out meal replace the 100G of Turkey with 100-200g of Chicken , I Prefer chicken much more for some reason. Not a fan of Turkey.
is their much cost difference between turkey and chicken?
i too also like chicken more:) just got they better taste (even though not a lot lol)
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 6:23:36
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quote:
ORIGINAL: theiopener
Meal 1: add a piece of fruit
meal 2: double the pasta
meal 3: more oats
Prebed some oatcakes
try that and see how you get on
cheers iopener sounds a good idea:
meal 1: a banana or apple or orange
meal 2: increase pasta to 100g (or more?)
meal 3: increase oats to 100g (or more?)
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 6:30:38
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quote:
ORIGINAL: gwilym
How long have you been losing weight for?
Have you changed any part of your diet or training recently that could be the cause?
If you haven't changed anything and you have started losing weight suddenly with no apparent cause it would be worth going to a local chemist for a diabetes test. Its free and can be done at most chemists with no appointment.
I don't wanna scaremonger, but that is a symptom.
If you do choose to do this, let us know how it goes.
hi gwilym, its been happeneing a little while now, i was 10 stone but its been slowly dropping
i changed me routine to do 2 days weights and 2 days plyometrics about 4 weeks ago, i think its bout then it started , but when i started new diet and traning routine its still happeneing.
illl will prob go today if not ill found out when i can get an appointment
cheers
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 11:42:44
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I had a quick look at your diet and its prob around 3500kcal region, i skim read it so certainly not accurate.
4500Maintenance calories is pretty high, but you may be the "lucky" few who are predisposed to being lean. So you may become more fidgety, hotter, etc when you eat surplus calories which in effect burns them away. Go with TIO's suggestions, if they fail bump the calories up further.
I highly doubt you have diabetes, but Llyods pharmacy will give you a free diabetes test so no big deal.
Are you doing lots of cardio?
Active lifestyle?
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 14:38:39
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quote:
ORIGINAL: richsINS
I had a quick look at your diet and its prob around 3500kcal region, i skim read it so certainly not accurate. sorry to be bit dumb but what do you mean?
4500Maintenance calories is pretty high, but you may be the "lucky" few who are predisposed to being lean. So you may become more fidgety, hotter, etc when you eat surplus calories which in effect burns them away. Go with TIO's suggestions, if they fail bump the calories up further.
I highly doubt you have diabetes, but Llyods pharmacy will give you a free diabetes test so no big deal.
Are you doing lots of cardio? at the moment i do 3-4 sesions of MMA a week which in total is about 5 1/2 hrs
Active lifestyle? i try and keep active whenever possible
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 19:48:58
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bump
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 20:34:07
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I skim read (read your diet and added up the foods to get a calorie estimate very fast) so 3500kcal estimate could be incorrect/wrong.
If your active then youll need to eat a tonne more (obviously).
Anyhow give TIO's recommendations a go, its probably an increase in ~500kcal a day. If your losing 2lb a week you'll still be losing 1lb a week next week, but best to add the calories on slowly and see what happens.
Good luck
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RE: why am istill losing weight? - Apr. 24 2008 22:06:14
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kingoblack
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ah ok sorry bout that  didnt udnerstand what you meant 
if increasing the cals doesnt workout, can you recommend anything else that i could do or if possible to make an outline for a meal plan (only if posssible though)
cheers
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