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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 24 2008 10:41:09
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john_cappa
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ORIGINAL: ToxicToffee Which supplements do I need? None, simple as. With a solid appreciation of quality eating, supplements are simply that. As I have stated above they are ‘add ons’ to a diet and by no means allow for eating crap. If you do want some reading some basic ideas are here for you http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/top_supplements.asp For now, train hard, eat hard and rest hard. Too many people think these wonder pills and powders are their free meal ticket. Utter BS. Give me wholesome food over magic beans any day. Marketing hype lures the uneducated in and they part with large amounts of money for minimal results only to return in search of something new in the weeks to follow. After working in a supplements store I became friends with the monthly visitors who popped in to see what was new who were greeted with my usual sarcasm about the latest wonder pill. I here “10% strength” claims on product 1, “recovery benefits” on product 2, “muscle pumps and volumisation” on 3 and literally every possible worry we have is exploited due to our nature of insecurity as humans. The main worry for a bodybuilder generally revolves around either being small and having a lack of muscle mass or losing muscle tissue when they diet. In the main, the recreational trainer or young lad on the street knows very little about science and even less about sport science and nutrition. Throw some big words, major claims and a few ‘clinical trials’ and you have them hooked. Who needs to eat well or train hard if you can have 10% gains from this product, 5% from that and 12% from the other? This is rarely reality and is made worse when we see our idols endorsing such products in glossy magazines and on posters in gyms and health shops. I have no insight knowledge on these guys but I would suggest many of them don’t even use the products but merely enjoy the money associated with sponsorship.. I am not for one moment suggesting all supplements don’t work. Some do offer great benefits but it’s similar to a sky diver saying, “I don’t need a parachute, I have a new jazzy helmet to save me” get your house built and then look to furnish it. So, training, nail it, diet, learn more and get it critiqued on the site, then run the two together for a while and see where it takes you. When you hit a plateau you then may look at supplements to kick you over that point. Anyone who is foolish enough to think they will be saved by shakes, potions and lotions is going to have a rude awakening if they wish to make progress in the iron game. [
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 0:38:10
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ORIGINAL: Ak_88 Why do you insist on buying all this stuff? My thoughts exactly. A magazine's dream. Good price nontheless. Rather have £35 of chicken though.
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 1:18:01
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WTF .... are u mad mate? At 16 why do you need any of them? Your growing and just learning about training. I dont understand what most of them would give you?
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 7:41:32
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ORIGINAL: Riocat WTF .... are u mad mate? At 16 why do you need any of them? Your growing and just learning about training. I dont understand what most of them would give you? less room space?
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 14:33:02
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LOL ive done similar things on a lower scale though, i bought arginine and similar stuff, its bollocks for a beginner to be honest, it doesnt make you grow any more and you can get a pump from doing an extra sets with higher reps if thats what your after. I think you need to update the impressive list of supplements in your sig now.
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 15:28:19
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If they work for you lad then well played, but to get the best results and i'm sure most people will agree, you just need good diet, lots of water, a few extra supplements to make up the for the lifting, and lots of hard work on the bench!! Hope they work for you if not Maximuscle have always been good for giving me the ideal extra's! www.maximuscle.com
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 15:33:08
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a few extra supplements to make up the for the lifting what does that mean ?
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 15:39:55
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sorry a misinterpretation, obviously he wants to build himself up and therefore needs a larger nutritional intake and sometimes not always possible with daily food alone hence the supplements to aid his musclebuilding whilst weightlifting. www.maximuscle.com
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 15:42:56
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do you work for MM ?
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 15:56:09
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unfortunately not, but I've got a t-shirt from them though! i use or have used to majority of their stuff in the past and it's always worked for me personally. I know there is lots of naff stuff on the market and it annoys me when lads come into work with all these new fangled workouts and supplements thatnever seem to work out! you know what you get with maximuscle so thats why i advise people to use it! just personal opinion!
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 16:13:58
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It really does seem like all your posts have been about maximuscle quote:
ORIGINAL: wufc06 seemed to have tried everything on the market, but i've found the best for me without doubt is Promax by maximuscle. A few of the lads down my gym reccommended it to me so i gave it a go, 6 months later i'd put on 14lb lean muscle and was in the best shape of my life!! Don't get me wrong, i put the work in with the weights too! Any of the supplements that say you can get the body you want without it are liars!! Some of the lads use Cyclone too, but i found that Promax was fine for me. I used the advice on the maximuscle website to help me build a decent weight training program as well which saved me hours of needless time in the gym! I wouldn't have anything else now See it for yourself www.maximuscle.com quote:
ORIGINAL: wufc06 Not during workouts, but when i play sports or doing cardio yeah. I use Viper to recover after cardio and sometimes after workouts. I find for me it works brilliantly, sometimes i go and squeeze another evening session in if i have the time! quote:
ORIGINAL: wufc06 i use Promax bars by Maximuscle and they're the best i've tried, quite good value too www.maximuscle.com quote:
ORIGINAL: wufc06 if they work for you lad then well played, but to get the best results and i'm sure most people will agree, you just need good diet, lots of water, a few extra supplements to make up the for the lifting, and lots of hard work on the bench!! Hope they work for you if not Maximuscle have always been good for giving me the ideal extra's! www.maximuscle.com quote:
ORIGINAL: wufc06 Green tea is renowned for it's use in fat loss, but when i was stripping down for summer, (after the Xmas binging!) i used thermabol by maximuscle in conjunction with my training and other protein supplements. www.maximuscle.com
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 18:15:39
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lol!! what can i say, theyr'e very good!! the best i've used!
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 18:18:51
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ORIGINAL: wufc06 lol!! what can i say, theyr'e very good!! the best i've used! you aint used much then
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 19:43:51
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ORIGINAL: wufc06 lol!! what can i say, theyr'e very good!! the best i've used! hmmm some would say you were a rep for maximuscle, but not me. Bearing in mind that for £35 worth of maximuscle stuff would not get you much! BTW my diet is nailed atm so these things will actually "supplement" my diet.
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 19:56:39
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what are you seriously expecting from taking all those supplements alongside, i presume, all those in your sig?
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 20:11:19
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I wouldnt so much question the value of the purchase although i wouldnt bother taking any of them to be honest but i would question the mentality of wanting to buy that many supplements at the age of 16. I hate seeing it said on here but this is one instance that i think justifies the old advice of focus first on good training and diet. All the best though.
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 20:17:18
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ORIGINAL: don marcos I wouldnt so much question the value of the purchase although i wouldnt bother taking any of them to be honest but i would question the mentality of wanting to buy that many supplements at the age of 16. I hate seeing it said on here but this is one instance that i think justifies the old advice of focus first on good training and diet. All the best though. Funny you should say that. I fell into the trap. I bought tons of supplements, then after that, over a period of a month, fixed my diet. After that I got a routine (I had been doing full body every couple of days) and trained properly. I must admit these are truly supplements- I would put Whey and dextrose under a different class than Beta Alanine or Di-Arginine Malate. I can post recent pics if you want.
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RE: Sh1t loads of supplements! - Apr. 25 2008 20:20:34
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