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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 11:47:28
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Try and get some nylon ones as the cotton cheapo's tend to rip after a while. Iron mind does a good pair. BTW straps, belts, suites, hooks, etc. are all tools. You use them when appropriate. People telling you never to use straps will never get anywhere. Use them as a tool and not a crutch and you will be fine.
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I lift with no straps/chalk for most sets and execises.
Use chalk for max effort deadlifting
Use straps for high rep shrugs
Use straps for rack pulls
I also occasionally use chalk for some pressing exercises too.
Too gay for words.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 11:47:56
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Best bit of advice ive heard was to switch to straps for all back work which ive done and its working very well and i'd recommend it to anyone training for aesthetics bb,obviously if your goal is strength training ect then there best avoided.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 12:33:12
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Best bit of advice ive heard was to switch to straps for all back work which ive done and its working very well and i'd recommend it to anyone training for aesthetics bb,obviously if your goal is strength training ect then there best avoided.
Same here. I only use straps for the heaviest of back exercises (ie DL, BOR), and nothing else.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 13:08:28
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Best bit of advice ive heard was to switch to straps for all back work which ive done and its working very well and i'd recommend it to anyone training for aesthetics bb,obviously if your goal is strength training ect then there best avoided.
I take it some actually work their forearms? By not working your grip you're actually losing out. There's a part in my e-book (sold by MT) where I explain why it could benefit those looking to build muscle as well as strength.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 13:34:32
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Try and get some nylon ones as the cotton cheapo's tend to rip after a while. Iron mind does a good pair. BTW straps, belts, suites, hooks, etc. are all tools. You use them when appropriate. People telling you never to use straps will never get anywhere. Use them as a tool and not a crutch and you will be fine.
Amen!!
I lift with no straps/chalk for most sets and execises.
Use chalk for max effort deadlifting
Use straps for high rep shrugs
Use straps for rack pulls
I also occasionally use chalk for some pressing exercises too.
Too gay for words.
I'm quite a sweaty bugger so prefer a solid grip on the bar when benching/OHP rather than it sliding around in my hands.
Wearing pink marigolds with a fur cuff to lift in may be considered gay.
Using chalk however isn't.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 13:38:10
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For some very strange reason I could have sworn you said strap not chalk when pressing. Chalk for pressing is not too gay for words. Me sorry. 
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 13:42:34
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Best bit of advice ive heard was to switch to straps for all back work which ive done and its working very well and i'd recommend it to anyone training for aesthetics bb,obviously if your goal is strength training ect then there best avoided.
By not working your grip you're actually losing out. .
Only if your a strength trainer,strong grip doesn't equal big forearms.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 13:45:02
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Guys, I'm currently doing a 5 x 5 routine which is going well but I've hit a sticking point.
My grip is always the first thing to go when doing deads but there's plenty more to come from my legs and back.
I could use straps and go heavier however I also want to improve my forearm development and my grip.
What would you do?
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 13:50:33
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Try and get some nylon ones as the cotton cheapo's tend to rip after a while. Iron mind does a good pair.
I got some of the Ironmind to replace some cotton straps that were missing in action.
I'm not sure I like'em.
The nylon seems to feel slippy on the bar, where as the cotton ones 'bite on'
Havent gone over 700lbs with them yet so early days, but 1st impressions are not good.
I might have a look at the ATP ones, as although Ive never had a strap blow out on me, I seen the cottons ones blow.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 14:26:57
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Guys, I'm currently doing a 5 x 5 routine which is going well but I've hit a sticking point.
My grip is always the first thing to go when doing deads but there's plenty more to come from my legs and back.
I could use straps and go heavier however I also want to improve my forearm development and my grip.
What would you do?
Concerned
The Midlands
Are you using chalk?
I used to have to resort to straps when my grip was letting me down. Discovering chalk was a revelation and since using it have never needed to go back to straps on deads.
I can no longer use weak grip as a reason for failing on a lift now 
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 14:40:31
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ORIGINAL: 40 plus
Guys, I'm currently doing a 5 x 5 routine which is going well but I've hit a sticking point.
My grip is always the first thing to go when doing deads but there's plenty more to come from my legs and back.
I could use straps and go heavier however I also want to improve my forearm development and my grip.
What would you do?
Concerned
The Midlands
Are you using chalk?
I used to have to resort to straps when my grip was letting me down. Discovering chalk was a revelation and since using it have never needed to go back to straps on deads.
I can no longer use weak grip as a reason for failing on a lift now
I'm not currently using chalk, it has been recommended to me before but I've since found out my gym won't allow it.
I've looked at liquid chalk but would this still not leave residue on the bar which is obviously the issue for the gym.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 14:43:17
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I've got the these Schiek ones:
I found the normal ones made me look like i'd been self harming for a few hours after using them but these are excellent. Had them for over year and they're showing very little wear and tear.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 14:51:01
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I'm not currently using chalk, it has been recommended to me before but I've since found out my gym won't allow it.
I've looked at liquid chalk but would this still not leave residue on the bar which is obviously the issue for the gym.
40p - if it's leaving chalk on the bar that's the problem then it comes off very easily with a piece of tissue or your towel.
If it's making a mess on the floor, get a chalk ball, a bit tupperware tub and apply the chalk in the tub so you don't make any mess.
If you're on reasonable terms with the gym management, perhaps explain the above and say if it causes too much mess you won't use it. I bet they won't even know you;ve been in if you clean up afterwards
I've occasionally even hoovered up the mess I've made with chalk (well, my training partner's mess!) because some of the staff are arses and will quite happily stop you using chalk.
As for liquid chalk - never used it so can't comment.
If still no joy on the chalk issue, I'd happily use straps for some extra weight rather than always be limited by your grip.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 15:02:53
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Avoid leather straps, they make no sense to me, too hard on the wrists. A good pair of 'cloth/fabric' straps should be no more than a tenner and could last a lifetime.
Don't make the mistake I did of getting my straps and thinking they were faulty as I could not get my hands through the 'holes' or make said 'holes' bigger. It took a few days to figure it out! Worked it out on my own and all, mind!
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 25 2008 15:03:17
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Best bit of advice ive heard was to switch to straps for all back work which ive done and its working very well and i'd recommend it to anyone training for aesthetics bb,obviously if your goal is strength training ect then there best avoided.
By not working your grip you're actually losing out. .
Only if your a strength trainer,strong grip doesn't equal big forearms.
Wrong. But please note I didn't say big forearms. Mine are (when pumped) 16.5-inches and I am a former British grip champion. I do no actual direct forearm work.
There is a reason, as previously mentioned it's in the e-book, why a stronger grip would equate to a better build. That's the whole body not just forearms.
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 26 2008 5:20:16
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Wrong. But please note I didn't say big forearms. Mine are (when pumped) 16.5-inches and I am a former British grip champion. I do no actual direct forearm work.
There is a reason, as previously mentioned it's in the e-book, why a stronger grip would equate to a better build. That's the whole body not just forearms.
Are you going to share this reason steve or do we need to buy the ebook?
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 26 2008 6:34:49
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Wrong. But please note I didn't say big forearms. Mine are (when pumped) 16.5-inches and I am a former British grip champion. I do no actual direct forearm work.
There is a reason, as previously mentioned it's in the e-book, why a stronger grip would equate to a better build. That's the whole body not just forearms.
Are you going to share this reason steve or do we need to buy the ebook?
i think you know the answer to that 
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RE: wrist straps?? - Apr. 26 2008 7:37:27
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Liquid chalk for me
Tried straps for a few months and the size dropped off of my forearms 
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