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Who will you vote for London Mayor


Ken Livingstone (Labour Party)
  18% (12)
Boris Johnstone (Conservative)
  54% (35)
Brian Paddick (Lib Dem)
  6% (4)
Sian Berry (Green Party)
  0% (0)
Alan Craig (Christian Choice)
  3% (2)
Matt O'Conor (English Democrats)
  1% (1)
Lindsey German (Left List)
  0% (0)
Gerard Batton (UK Independence Party)
  1% (1)
Richard Barnbrook (British National Party)
  14% (9)
Winston McKenzie (Independent)
  0% (0)


Total Votes : 64


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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 22:54:37   
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Cheers for the reply John, is this an assumption then or what people are reading between the lines rather than an actual written policy/proposal ?

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however it's known that their policies also endorse "forcible repatriation" for those non-whites who refuse to return.





That is their policy.


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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 22:56:22   
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Im a londoner and i think he has done good. For one he has got us the Olympics which is awesome. I can actually breathe without the need of my asthma pump in London now, due to the congestion charge and when i was younger the free bus travel for people in full time education was fantastic. Gina i see you are from Yorkshire, i think this greatly affects your political stance i could be wrong though. Im from Lodon and have come across immigrants all my life and if im correct immigrants are a relatively ne thing to Yorkshire? just a possible reason for the different views.

They are everywhere mate, believe me not just in London, as they ran out of room. In my job I travel the country. I think the issue with immigration is great, as we have been looking at OZ for a while. But they have to contribute to society and I don't believe a lot of people comming here at the moment are. It's a bit of a joke the ammount of money we are spending on this at the moment. At some point we have to say no more.
Apologies if my post is a bit fact less, but this is my interpretation.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 22:58:11   
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I once did a study on why people vote the way they did and location was surprisingly high and issues were surprising low. Issue voters are the best type of voters IMO.they vote for what is right which is surely what politics is about.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:01:23   
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Cheers for the reply John, is this an assumption then or what people are reading between the lines rather than an actual written policy/proposal ?


No its written on various leaflets they hand out. Ive read quite a few in my time, always posted through my letterbox. And we had a group of BNP supporters where i last worked who used to leave them everywhere, they were eventually all fired for 'stealing steak' lol! True story!


Cheers mate, I`m just struggling to understand how anybody could support a party that would treat ANY family this way regardless of colour etc and try to claim some sort of credibility, I thought I might be missing something somewhere.
In truth I`ve only taken an interest because they do seem to be gaining some popularity.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:02:08   
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Immigration is a factor everywhere but only recently tbh, I just think me being a Londoner has made me except immigration more because I have seen it forever, where as some people may be able to remember a time with out immigrants.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:04:23   
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I`m just struggling to understand how anybody could support a party that would treat ANY family this way regardless of colour etc and try to claim some sort of credibility


Thats exactly what i have always wondered. It seems to me, supporters have 'selective ignorance' of many BNP policies. Its a good thing you are getting clued up on the subject IMO mate. From what ive seen, if something is 'unjust' or 'unfair' you simply have to dig a little deeper, and you will soon see why.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:07:51   
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I once did a study on why people vote the way they did and location was surprisingly high and issues were surprising low. Issue voters are the best type of voters IMO.they vote for what is right which is surely what politics is about.
the touble is mate too many people vote for whats right for them as opposed to whats right for all.


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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:12:39   
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that is a problem but I suppose that is true democracy. The thing with parties like BNP they represent the views of a select minority which in general few agree with but luckily due to our voting system they will never get a major foothold. But if we employed a PR system of voting for a general election like some people want to BNP could gain meaningful power.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:12:47   
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Its a good thing you are getting clued up on the subject IMO mate.


Lol you`re right mate, I should, just bad experiences in my youth kind of put me off and have steered clear for over 25 years lol.

Puzzle, cheers for your clarification bud.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:16:10   
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I once did a study on why people vote the way they did and location was surprisingly high and issues were surprising low. Issue voters are the best type of voters IMO.they vote for what is right which is surely what politics is about.
the touble is mate too many people vote for whats right for them as opposed to whats right for all.



is that not the idea.....being your vote an all???

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I also had an altercation with the coffin at the same funeral, although it didn't look like a coffin to me. An easy mistake to make in my opinion.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:17:12   
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imo its not all about people and colour which some people are taking as the problem here.
there are many issues besides colour thats upsetting people such as...
i personaly dont like mosques,not because i dont like muslims!but because i doint like the way they look,not very prety things,and i
that isnt what i want to see or hear near me,if i wanted that i would go to a country wher i could see and hear that.
i feel my surroundings are being changed for the worse,i dont live in iraq/iran etc etc i live in england and those are foreign sights to me,but they are stil there.
now you may think i am racist for saying that,thats your perogative but thats how i feel, why can i not say this without people thinking i am racist?
there are many things the ethnic people dont like about me and how i live,but if they say things they too are being racist,why?
imo its going to be a very long time berfore we have harmony here with these issues not being resolved.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:21:35   
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I dont think that makes you racist, i just think you dislike change. You would not be alone in thinking the way you do. But i guess thats what ive always thought was great about this country, you ARE allowed to choose and follow your religon. Many other countries simply dont allow this, one of the many reasons im glad my parents came here.

P.S. Call to prayer would usually be 5 times a day.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:25:22   
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Immigration is a factor everywhere but only recently tbh, I just think me being a Londoner has made me except immigration more because I have seen it forever, where as some people may be able to remember a time with out immigrants.


Where do you live in London Muscleman?

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:26:38   
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ORIGINAL: ginasmg

imo its not all about people and colour which some people are taking as the problem here.
there are many issues besides colour thats upsetting people such as...
i personaly dont like mosques,not because i dont like muslims!but because i doint like the way they look,not very prety things,and i dont like all this call to prayer blarting out every half hour throughout the day.
that isnt what i want to see or hear near me,if i wanted that i would go to a country wher i could see and hear that.
i feel my surroundings are being changed for the worse,i dont live in iraq/iran etc etc i live in england and those are foreign sights to me,but they are stil there.
now you may think i am racist for saying that,thats your perogative but thats how i feel, why can i not say this without people thinking i am racist?
there are many things the ethnic people dont like about me and how i live,but if they say things they too are being racist,why?
imo its going to be a very long time berfore we have harmony here with these issues not being resolved.


Gina, I don't mean to sound patronising, but do you have any Muslim friends?

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:27:17   
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if people didn't have choices such as what religion to follow life would be awful. It is the one of the major freedoms along with speech that make a country a democracy. If you like voting you should be able to except other religions as thy are both vital in a democracy.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:29:12   
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Southeast around lewisham and that part.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:34:03   
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tbh mate its not i dont like change,ive had many different changes in my life.
but if your surroundings are changing all the time with things you either dislike or disagree with,and theres nothing you can do about it this causes tension and ill feeling,on all sides.and for all the people living in that comunity.
if someond built a catholic church on my road i wouldnt like that either,or church of england whatever.
the proof of this is that 2 of the mosques have been burnt down (absolutly unacceptable) but they have,this isnt going to do anyone any good especially relations between faiths.
so why didnt they consult all people within that comunity before they were built?
ps.it wasnt my intention to insult the call tp prayer,so if you felt insulted i appologise and will adjust my earlier post mate.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:34:40   
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ginasmg
imo its not all about people and colour which some people are taking as the problem here.


I think this is exactly what it is though Gina, it seems to be the basis to what they are all about, I mean let`s be honest, simplistically as a nation we pretty much raped their countries of their natural resources, invited them over and then treated them like sh1t, now there`s a problem they seem to be of the opinion `let`s just f*ck them all back to where they came from`, I`m sorry but we can`t do that, if they have a policy of forcefully ejecting families from this country, people who know nothing but being in this country then for me personally it`s not an option.

I wonder what they think about British families abroad, we`d be in a hell of a lot more sh1t if all the other countries around the world decided all Brits must come back here.

ps, off to bed now lol.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:36:44   
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yes john i have many friends from different faiths.i train in the gym with a muslim friend.
H2O fair points mate.

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RE: Who will you vote for London Mayor - Apr. 27 2008 23:38:15   
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it wasnt my intention to insult the call tp prayer,so if you felt insulted i appologise and will adjust my earlier post mate.


No not at all mate. Im not a practising muslim anyway, hell i dont even define myself as muslim anymore.

I think H20 has a valid point, as always!

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