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Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 26 2008 18:19:14
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yiddo
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I am currently attempting to lose Bodyfat. I am also doing very high intensity boxing training 3 times per week and need to have decent energy for this:
Training:
MON: Boxing
TUES: Chest & Back
WED: Boxing
THURS: Delts, Bis, Tris
FRI: Boxing
SAT: Legs & Abs
SUN: Die quietly on the sofa
(The boxing is very high intensity for 60-90 mins and cant really be done on no carbs lol)
Diet:
9am: 100g Oats, 50g Whey, 250ml Skim Milk
11:30am: 2 X WMeal Rolls, Chicken, Salad
2pm: Chicken Salad, Cous Cous
3pm: Train (4:30pm if boxing - still wont eat after 2 if boxing tho as i'll be sick, maybe a couple bananas or something)
PWO: 100g Oats, 50g Whey, 250ml Skim Milk
6pm: Mince, WMeal Past
8:30pm: Mackeral Salad
11pm: 50g whey, nuts
I have been doing SSCV for 30-40 mins 3-4 times EW but I am having to drop this until the beginning of June as I have a huge amount of work on with universoty exams at the mo and it takes up too much time
I am away on hols 6th July and want to be in good nick (10-12%) fo then, reckon I must be 18% now easily
I have been stiking to this for a month or so and to be honest I look worse than when I started! Another lad who competes has suggested I change my diet, and just wanted some other opinons.
I am using AAS whilst dieting and 50mcg T3 as well, and am very worried about losing muscle, do not want this at all!
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 26 2008 18:20:29
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can you do 30 mins of sscv on your weights only days just after weights mate?
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 26 2008 18:25:53
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Diet recommendations
9am, fine mate
11:30 am have 1 roll for now
2pm, fine
3pm training: i would drop the carbs from your PWO shake and just have the whey. If youre boxing after weights then during weights drink something like a bottle of lucozade to make sure youre fuelled ready to rock and roll for boxing without making you feel sick due to heavy food sitting on your stomach
6pm, fine mate
11pm, i would get in a protein blend personally but its ok if it works for you
i cant advise beyond this as portion sizes will be down to you really. But a closed handful of mixed nuts should suffice for fat intake along with the mackeral you eat
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 26 2008 19:13:32
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Cheers TIO, I could manage 30 mins SSCV after weights of this would be beneficial
Weights and boxing are done on dif days, so its either weights or boxing, not both on same day, I would probably die lol
What I mean is weights are done at 3pm, but boxingis done at 4:30pm, but either way the pre-raining meal is at 2pm if you get what I mean
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 26 2008 19:14:57
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yes mate, the more cardio you get in the better youll be
in which case no need for the lucozade at all
the rest should stay the same. This should start yielding results for you mate, if not give me a shout in two weeks and ill suggest a few more tweaks for you
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 26 2008 19:21:27
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Cool cheers. I have been hard at it for a good month and look utter sh!te tbh, which is why I feel like it needs looked at
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 27 2008 14:12:20
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This is the diet suggested by a very experienced competitive bodybuilder for me:
8:30am: 30mins SSCV
9am: 100g Oats, 50g Whey,
11:30am: 50g basmati rice, 300g steamed white fish
2pm: 50g basmati rice, 300g steamed white fish
3pm: Train (4:30pm if boxing )
PWO: 50g Oats, 50g Whey,
6pm: 300g steamed whte fish, salad
8:30pm: 300g steamed fish
11pm: 50g whey, nuts
I'm not sure I can handle all the fish tho  altho it will obviously yield results, What do u guys reckon (James, tio, gaz etc?)
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 27 2008 14:28:44
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white fish is good on a cut because its fat free isnt as protein dense as chicken so you can have more of it due to this
sub it for 2/3 of the amount of chicken/turkey if you want to add some variety in the old diet
also its low on omega 3 and tbh looks boring as hell 
macros look ok but food choices i think could be better, also what works for him may not work for you
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 27 2008 16:14:04
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Yeah, as a ompetitor he has the discipline to eat that sort of diet, but Im not sure I could manage
What food hoices would u suggest TIO?
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 28 2008 2:37:19
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Reet well I like to eat pizza, deep fried mars bars and doughnuts...can u help me?
I need things that are easy to carry about in a cool box and can be eaten cold. Chicken (i buy ready cooked chicken pieces for iceland for £1 for 185g) hence the chiken sandwiches, mince, anything really. I'm not a fussy eater, but I just dont like eating things that are meant to be a hot meal, cold out of a tupperware box
Any suggestions appreciated tho m8y
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 28 2008 10:54:12
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yiddo just so you know the r/c chicken from iceland has a **** load of sodium in it, IIRC its about 1gr / 100gr
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 28 2008 13:52:06
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Yeah? Aprt from the fact salts not that gd for you, will it hinder my fat loss?
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 28 2008 13:58:22
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It might cause you to hold more water.
You could alway swap the fish for another meat and supplement with fish oil caps
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 28 2008 13:59:08
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shouldnt particularily affect fat loss, i used to buy that chicken all the time and eat it all day, i suppose its not too bad if your not having it for every meal, with training like you are you will need more salt than the average guy anyway.
i presume your not competing ?
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 28 2008 14:03:29
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it wont hinder your fat loss mate youll just carry water so you'll look rather soft
anyway, your diet my man!
9am 50g oats 250ml skim milk 50g whey and a small piece of fruit
11:30am chicken salad with loads of fibrous veggies
2pm 100g cous cous, small salad, 150g turkey mince (any spices you use are fine)
3pm training PWO 50g whey
6pm 200g turkey mince, 100g wholemeal pasta, low cal and low carb bolognese sauce
8:30 2 small tins of mackeral and salad
11pm small handful of mixed nuts and a tub of quark mixed with a sachet of options powder
that look ok fella?
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 28 2008 22:06:35
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Tomazi8
yiddo just so you know the r/c chicken from iceland has a **** load of sodium in it, IIRC its about 1gr / 100gr
0.3g per 100g just checked the back. Using nolva exemastane so shouldnt be holding too much. I now it isnt ideal, but I havent the time to sort chiken out any other way, and its only a quid!
Yeah that diey looks pretyy good actually m8y, thanks very much
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 29 2008 14:30:39
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Iceland do 1Kg frozen chicken breast (cooked and diced) for £3.50. Works out much cheaper than the smaller packs your getting. Will need to double check the salt on it though, but it is good stuff in terms of quality (98% Chicken 2% water) and price.
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RE: Cutting diet - knowledgable bros only pls! - Apr. 29 2008 15:46:10
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Whats the pre-cooked and frozen chicken like? Taste ok?
I've never tried it but it could be good.
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