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Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:22:23
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boxer81
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OK everyone keeps saying dont get all your protein from whey. But why?
Lets say you get 80% of your daily protein from whey and the rest from meat, what would be so bad about that for the average bodybuilder. Not someone at competiion level or even thinking about it. The average guy wanting to get a good body.
Is it really going to be such a nightmare for the body that it cant build muscle from it.
Especially if you are combining the whey with other things such as fruit veg, nuts etc. What is the problem exactly?
Sorry if this is a bit of a n00b question.
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:31:04
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whey is fast absorbing, thats why its mainly intended for post workout
you need slow release protein sources such as chicken, meat eggs etc to provide a good supply of nutrients for the 3 hours until your next meal
i persoanlly only use whey pwo or if i really need, as a mrp
ok but surely if you have whey with say, some nuts, some veg, maybe a piece of fruit, or even add some allbran to it, it will last 3 hours no?
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:33:31
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lack of variation and micronutrients with carrying our protein sources. Different aminos and whey is very fast absorbing
plus 80% of intake would meal you hardly eat any solid protein
you may get bad gas too
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:35:06
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lack of variation and micronutrients with carrying our protein sources. Different aminos and whey is very fast absorbing
plus 80% of intake would meal you hardly eat any solid protein
you may get bad gas too
ok, i had thought that whey had all the same aminos that chicken had and more, is that wrong then?
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:35:55
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meat/fish also has other nutrients
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:37:13
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Whey is good, Where its needed but dam i wouldnt want it 80% of the time like me eggs chicken beef etc to much!
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:39:40
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lack of variation and micronutrients with carrying our protein sources. Different aminos and whey is very fast absorbing
plus 80% of intake would meal you hardly eat any solid protein
you may get bad gas too
ok, i had thought that whey had all the same aminos that chicken had and more, is that wrong then?
different ratios mate, plus other sources have things like healthy fats, microminerals etc etc
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Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 14:44:45
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Whey is good, Where its needed but dam i wouldnt want it 80% of the time like me eggs chicken beef etc to much!
Its a theoretical question.
Yes, you would still grow if 80% of your protein was from whey.
It isn't ideal because:
-Variety is asscociated with good health
-Varied food sources offer different micromutrients and microminerals, which reduce/eliminate the chance of underconsuming an essential element
-Regular ingestion of fast absorpting foods results in regular insulin peaks and troughs, which, albeit unlikely, can lead to long-term insulin sensitivity problems, etc.
-Food offers greater satiety and prevents over-eating
-Protein synthesis is more effective/efficient with sporadic amino intakes rather than regular but very quick bursts of hyperaminoacidemia
There will no doubt be many other aspects to consider that I don't know enough about....
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 15:30:20
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whey is very fast absorbing
About 10g per hour, and thats on an empty stomach with nothing else. Its fast for a protein source but in general terms it is not absorbed 'fast'. Ingesting whey with other foods will slow this and therefore not make the 'fast' absorbition a problem, if it ever was and if if whey is truly absorbed 'fast'.
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Its a theoretical question.
Yes, you would still grow if 80% of your protein was from whey.
It isn't ideal because:
-Variety is asscociated with good health
-Varied food sources offer different micromutrients and microminerals, which reduce/eliminate the chance of underconsuming an essential element
-Regular ingestion of fast absorpting foods results in regular insulin peaks and troughs, which, albeit unlikely, can lead to long-term insulin sensitivity problems, etc.
-Food offers greater satiety and prevents over-eating
-Protein synthesis is more effective/efficient with sporadic amino intakes rather than regular but very quick bursts of hyperaminoacidemia
There will no doubt be many other aspects to consider that I don't know enough about....
Good post that. Whey is a high quality protein source and can be cheap so by all menas use it a lot. However make sure your still getting in a far amount of other protein sources for the above reasons.
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 18:36:26
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Absolutely awesome post 1MR. That should be emailed to everyone who... well, just everyone!
I'm a huge fan of whey for a variety of reasons, and think 80% would be great for advanced bulking.
From my experience though, the majority of people who are "bulking" have less than a couple of years of training experience and have more to worry about than details like whey quantity.
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ORIGINAL: 1MR
Yes, you would still grow if 80% of your protein was from whey.
It isn't ideal because:
-Variety is asscociated with good health
-Varied food sources offer different micromutrients and microminerals, which reduce/eliminate the chance of underconsuming an essential element
-Regular ingestion of fast absorpting foods results in regular insulin peaks and troughs, which, albeit unlikely, can lead to long-term insulin sensitivity problems, etc.
-Food offers greater satiety and prevents over-eating
-Protein synthesis is more effective/efficient with sporadic amino intakes rather than regular but very quick bursts of hyperaminoacidemia
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RE: Getting a lot of protein from whey. - Apr. 28 2008 18:46:39
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ORIGINAL: 1MR
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Whey is good, Where its needed but dam i wouldnt want it 80% of the time like me eggs chicken beef etc to much!
Its a theoretical question.
Yes, you would still grow if 80% of your protein was from whey.
It isn't ideal because:
-Variety is asscociated with good health
-Varied food sources offer different micromutrients and microminerals, which reduce/eliminate the chance of underconsuming an essential element
-Regular ingestion of fast absorpting foods results in regular insulin peaks and troughs, which, albeit unlikely, can lead to long-term insulin sensitivity problems, etc.
-Food offers greater satiety and prevents over-eating
-Protein synthesis is more effective/efficient with sporadic amino intakes rather than regular but very quick bursts of hyperaminoacidemia
There will no doubt be many other aspects to consider that I don't know enough about....
Agree with all the points 1MR makes, but the point that sprung to my mind was that variety is asscociated with good health in so many ways.
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